EPISODE · Sep 18, 2023 · 33 MIN
Confessional Corner: The Lord's Supper (Ep VII)
from Wrestling with Theology · host Rev. Doug Minton
To explain this controversy, it must be noted in the beginning that there are two kinds of Sacramentarians. Some are openly crass Sacramentarians. They declare in plain, clear words what they believe in their hearts, that in the Holy Supper nothing but bread and wine is present, distributed, and received with the mouth. Others, however, are crafty Sacramentarians. They are the most harmful of all. In part, they talk very fancy, using our own words. They pretend that they also believe a true presence of the true, essential, living body and blood of Christ in the Holy Supper. However, they say that this happens spiritually through faith. Nevertheless, under these fancy words they hold precisely the former crass opinion, namely, that in the Holy Supper nothing is present and received with the mouth except bread and wine. For with them the word spiritually means nothing other than the Spirit of Christ or the power of Christ's absent body and His merit that is present. But for them Christ's body is in no mode or way present, except above in the highest heaven. They say we should elevate ourselves into heaven by the thoughts of our faith. And there--not at all in the bread and wine of the Holy Supper--we should seek Christ's body and blood. (Ep VII 3-5) https://wrestlingwiththeology.org/media/podcast/cc_230918.mp3 Subscribe on Podcast Addict (https://www.podcastaddict.com/podcast/2285812) or your favorite podcast app.
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To explain this controversy, it must be noted in the beginning that there are two kinds of Sacramentarians. Some are openly crass Sacramentarians. They declare in plain, clear words what they believe in their hearts, that in the Holy Supper nothing but bread and wine is present, distributed, and received with the mouth. Others, however, are crafty Sacramentarians. They are the most harmful of all. In part, they talk very fancy, using our own words. They pretend that they also believe a true presence of the true, essential, living body and blood of Christ in the Holy Supper. However, they say that this happens spiritually through faith. Nevertheless, under these fancy words they hold precisely the former crass opinion, namely, that in the Holy Supper nothing is present and received with the mouth except bread and wine. For with them the word spiritually means nothing other than the Spirit of Christ or the power of Christ's absent body and His merit that is present. But for them Christ's body is in no mode or way present, except above in the highest heaven. They say we should elevate ourselves into heaven by the thoughts of our faith. And there--not at all in the bread and wine of the Holy Supper--we should seek Christ's body and blood. (Ep VII 3-5) https://wrestlingwiththeology.org/media/podcast/cc_230918.mp3 Subscribe on Podcast Addict (https://www.podcastaddict.com/podcast/2285812) or your favorite podcast app.
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