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EPISODE · Jun 17, 2026 · 35 MIN

Confidence, Courage, Clarity: What Actually Holds People Back with Lorraine Copes

from Tech on Toast, The Hospitality Tech Podcast · host Chris Fletcher

Lorraine Copes, Founder of Be Inclusive HospitalityChris sits down with Lorraine Copes, founder of Be Inclusive Hospitality, for a proper chat about the people side of the industry. From bringing Shake Shack to the UK to procurement boards at Gordon Ramsay Group and Corbin & King, Lorraine has built a 24-year career, then walked away from the "proper job" to build something with purpose. Six years on, BIH has trained 2,000+ leaders. We get into the data on who makes it up the chain, why confidence beats everything, and the gap between what boards say about people and what they actually do.From logistics to leadership. The "safe" degree, falling into hospitality supply chain, and pushing into procurement for the wins and the impact.The Shake Shack effect. Danny Meyer, "Setting the Table" as her ops bible, and the lesson that stuck: take care of your people and they take care of your guests.Why she pivoted. Not away from procurement, but towards purpose. She never once said "I want to be an entrepreneur." She wrote the plan in her garden, took redundancy, and went for it.Be Inclusive Hospitality, six years in. Launched June 2020 into a sector finally ready to listen. Two halves: training leaders on inclusion and belonging, and an upward social mobility arm running mentorship, scholarships and education.The Better Hospitality Campaign. An industry-wide survey looking at the consequences of what's happening, plus a leadership committee building a set of standards. Report drops end of September.The numbers. Entry level is the most diverse part of the industry, the boardroom rarely reflects it. Hospitality has the ingredients to be the best, if it builds real career pathways.Confidence, courage, clarity. The three things that show up when Lorraine coaches leaders, with confidence at the top. Why she refuses to call it "imposter syndrome."The board-level gap. It always comes back to people. Investing in them costs little and lifts every KPI you sweat over.Restaurant: Akoko on Berners StreetTech that earned its place: Fixr (the expense tool Chris put her onto)Best advice: Find your tribebihospitality.co.uklorrainecopes.co.ukLinkedIn, Instagram, TikTok: Lorraine Copes and Be InclusiveThis episode is powered by Lightspeed. The EPOS and payments platform built to keep service flowing when summer gets busy. Don't just keep up with the rush, own it with Lightspeed.What we coverQuickfireFind Lorraine

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