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EPISODE · Jan 23, 2026 · 19 MIN

Congress Grills Jack Smith Over Subpoenas, Power, and the Legal Process

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1. Context of the Hearing Jack Smith, Special Counsel, testifies publicly before the House Judiciary Committee. Republican members accuse him of political motivation in prosecutions involving Donald Trump. 2. GOP Allegations of Political Bias Republicans argue Smith targeted Trump to keep him from returning to the White House. They also assert that Smith’s investigations involved improper or excessive subpoenas. 3. Dispute Over Cassidy Hutchinson’s Testimony Jim Jordan challenges Smith about whether Hutchinson’s January 6th testimony was reliable. Jordan points out that Secret Service agents allegedly contradicted Hutchinson’s account. Smith notes her testimony was secondhand and says his team interviewed witnesses. Republicans claim Smith still considered using her as a witness despite credibility questions. 4. Subpoenas of Lawmakers’ Phone Records Representative Chip Roy and others criticize Smith for subpoenaing: Phone records of GOP lawmakers Phone/log data of private conservative organizations GOP members argue it was an abuse of power, unconstitutional, and overly broad. 5. Subpoena of Speaker Kevin McCarthy Smith confirms his office subpoenaed the toll records of Speaker McCarthy. Republicans say the secrecy order falsely identified McCarthy as a “flight risk.” Smith says the risk language relates to investigative concerns, not the individual. 6. Subpoenas for U.S. Senators Smith confirms his team also subpoenaed phone records for nine U.S. senators. Non-disclosure (gag) orders accompanied the subpoenas. Internal DOJ emails cited by GOP members acknowledge potential constitutional risk. 7. Concerns About Violating the Speech or Debate Clause GOP members argue that obtaining lawmakers’ call records infringes on the constitutional protection for legislative activities. They highlight DOJ memos suggesting possible litigation risk. 8. Involvement of Telecom Companies Verizon complied with subpoenas for congressional phone records. AT&T initially denied turning over McCarthy’s records but later was described as having complied. Please Hit Subscribe to this podcast Right Now. Also Please Subscribe to the The Ben Ferguson Show Podcast and Verdict with Ted Cruz Wherever You get You're Podcasts. And don't forget to follow the show on Social Media so you never miss a moment! Thanks for Listening X: https://x.com/benfergusonshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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