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EPISODE · Dec 20, 2022 · 30 MIN

"Contra Dante (Kind Of)" by Bill Coyle

from Versecraft · host Elijah Perseus Blumov

Mea culpa regarding the scansion of line 29: I should've mentioned that you could also very reasonably interpret this as an acephalous iambic line. My bad. I like the trochees better though! Topics discussed in this episode include: -Dante's Purgatorio -"The God of This World To His Prophet" -Swedish skalds Hakan Sandell and Tomas Transtromer -Dante's tropical vacay -How Virgil and Moses are alike -Terza Rima -Dante's numerical obsession/magnificence -Hendecasyllabics -The Beatific Vision -A pun which only works perfectly in American English -Rhythm vs. Meter, Stress vs. Accent -The Book of Isaiah -Parallelist verse -Parallelist verse graphic: https://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/documents/hebrew_poetry01.pdf -The influence of biblical poetry in English via the KJV -Robert Alter's "Pen of Iron" -Moliere and irony (see especially "The Misanthrope") -The death of the personality in heaven -You know I had to bring in Aquinas -God as Actus Purus -If there's life after death, there is no death -We desire not heaven but more earthly life -Bill "Mr. Steal Your Girl" Coyle slides into Beatrice's DMs -Marlowe and Marvell -Nietzsche's Eternal Recurrence -How much do you love your life? Text of poem: Contra Dante (Kind Of) Forget about the Beatific Vision. Not that it’s not impressive in its glory and worthy of a god in God’s position, but if I make it to Mount Purgatory (and yes, that’s one big “if,” I realize) and trudge my way up story after story I’ll settle in the Earthly Paradise located at the top, it being more, well, earthly, which is better in my eyes. Earthly perfection’s what I’m looking for: the world I know, more or less as I know it, prolonged, minus the death and pain and gore (hard to imagine, maybe, but read the poet Isaiah on the lion and the lamb). If I found that, there’s no way I’d outgrow it, even if I grew holier than I am (not the I AM, but I as I am now). Can I be honest? I don’t give a damn if I miss most of the celestial show (it will go on like clockwork whether I am there or not) so long as far below (which, from where I stand now, is still on high) I can sit down under an actual tree on actual grass beneath an actual sky of blue that as it drops back let me see the southern constellations overhead. That would be more than good enough for me, enough to make me not mind being dead. And if Beatrice came from above to take me heavenwards, I’d try instead to tell her she should be the one to move. She’d hem, she’d haw, I’d bring her flowers and rhyme, I’d say, “Stay here with me and be my love, seeing we now have world enough and time.”Support the showVISIT MY WEBSITE HERE.BUY VERSECRAFT MERCH HERE.VISIT THE VERSECRAFT SUBSTACK HERE.Please subscribe, rate, and review! Thanks so much for listening.You can leave me a tip, support the podcast, or request a commission here! TikTok:  @versecraftSend me a note at: [email protected] favorite poetry podcasts for: Sharp thoughts and cutting truths (Matthew): Sleerickets  Lovely introspection and sensitive reflection (Alice): Poetry Says The landscape of Ohioan poetry (Jeremy): Poetry Spotlight  Supported in part by The Ohio Poetry AssociationArt by David Anthony KlugList of the most common metrical feet: Iamb: weak-STRONG (u /)Trochee: STRONG-weak (/ u)Anapest: weak-weak-STRONG (u u /)Amphibrach: weak-STRONG-weak (u / u)Dactyl: STRONG-weak-weak (/ u u)Cretic: STRONG-weak-STRONG (/ u /)Pyrrhic: weak-weak (u u)Spondee: STRONG-STRONG (/ /)

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Mea culpa regarding the scansion of line 29: I should've mentioned that you could also very reasonably interpret this as an acephalous iambic line. My bad. I like the trochees better though! Topics discussed in this episode include: -Dante's Purgatorio -"The God of This World To His Prophet" -Swedish skalds Hakan Sandell and Tomas Transtromer -Dante's tropical vacay -How Virgil and Moses are alike -Terza Rima -Dante's numerical obsession/magni...

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