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EPISODE · Aug 4, 2022 · 59 MIN

Conventional Commits vs. Release-It and Chatting About the Changelog

from Whiskey Web and Whatnot

There are two types of engineers. The "normal" ones who strive to make their day-to-day lives as easy as possible and the Robbie's of the world who strive to do everything themselves until the last line of code is sealed in a changelog.  On that note, do you prefer conventional commits? Or the tools out there that make organization easier and, sometimes, automated? Chuck and Robbie don't see eye-to-eye on this particular topic so prepare yourself for the mildest smackdown of the century. In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss the pros and cons of release-it, the beauty of working system-agnostic, why Robbie prefers the changelog, and an attempt to stay abreast of frameworks like fresh coming into focus.  Key Takeaways [00:33] - A whiskey review - Howler Head Banana Whiskey. [09:12] - A mild smackdown on conventional commits versus release-it.  [15:23] - Why Chuck and Robbie prefer the changelog.  [20:35] - What is fresh? And Robbie leaks some internal R&D. [26:42] - What Robbie thinks about the Chevy Blazer EV and SUVs in general. [44:55] - How Chuck and his family acquired a Recall box.  Quotes [09:55] - "I don't dislike release-it. Let's be clear there. I just don't want to have to physically do anything beyond opening the pull request and closing the pull request." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd] [13:01] - "I'm not a big fan of conventional commits because it adds a lot of noise to your commit log." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90] [15:06] - "I just think that you [Robbie] are different than a lot of engineers in that you're like, 'I want to touch and do all the things for all 16 jobs, I just want to do it myself and make sure it hits to the end' and other engineers are like, 'what script can I write to never do this again?'" ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd] Links Howler Head Kentucky Banana Bourbon Whiskey [https://www.howlerhead.com] Suggest a Whiskey on Twitter! [https://twitter.com/shipshapecode] UFC [https://www.ufc.com] Dana White  [https://www.instagram.com/danawhite/] Wooler Brands [https://catalyst-spirits.com] Fireball  [https://www.fireballwhisky.com] Coke [https://www.coca-cola.com] release-it  [https://github.com/release-it/release-it] changelog [https://keepachangelog.com/en/1.0.0/]  GitHub Actions [https://github.com/features/actions] semantic-release-bot [https://www.npmjs.com/~semantic-release-bot] Hacker News [https://news.ycombinator.com] Microsoft  [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/] GitLab [https://about.gitlab.com] github-changelog-generator  [https://github.com/github-changelog-generator/github-changelog-generator] Ember.js [https://emberjs.com] fresh [https://fresh.deno.dev] Next.js [https://nextjs.org] Node [https://nodejs.org/en/] Yarn [https://yarnpkg.com] Hooks [https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html] Starbeam [https://github.com/wycats/starbeam/] Astro [https://astro.build] JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]  zerojs [http://technohippy.github.io/zero.js/] nojs [https://www.npmjs.com/package/nojs] Preact [https://preactjs.com] React [https://reactjs.org] Optix< [https://www.optixapp.com]

There are two types of engineers. The "normal" ones who strive to make their day-to-day lives as easy as possible and the Robbie's of the world who strive to do everything themselves until the last line of code is sealed in a changelog.  On that note, do you prefer conventional commits? Or the tools out there that make organization easier and, sometimes, automated? Chuck and Robbie don't see eye-to-eye on this particular topic so prepare yourself for the mildest smackdown of the century. In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss the pros and cons of release-it, the beauty of working system-agnostic, why Robbie prefers the changelog, and an attempt to stay abreast of frameworks like fresh coming into focus.  Key Takeaways [00:33] - A whiskey review - Howler Head Banana Whiskey. [09:12] - A mild smackdown on conventional commits versus release-it.  [15:23] - Why Chuck and Robbie prefer the changelog.  [20:35] - What is fresh? And Robbie leaks some internal R&D. [26:42] - What Robbie thinks about the Chevy Blazer EV and SUVs in general. [44:55] - How Chuck and his family acquired a Recall box.  Quotes [09:55] - "I don't dislike release-it. Let's be clear there. I just don't want to have to physically do anything beyond opening the pull request and closing the pull request." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd] [13:01] - "I'm not a big fan of conventional commits because it adds a lot of noise to your commit log." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90] [15:06] - "I just think that you [Robbie] are different than a lot of engineers in that you're like, 'I want to touch and do all the things for all 16 jobs, I just want to do it myself and make sure it hits to the end' and other engineers are like, 'what script can I write to never do this again?'" ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd] Links Howler Head Kentucky Banana Bourbon Whiskey [https://www.howlerhead.com] Suggest a Whiskey on Twitter! [https://twitter.com/shipshapecode] UFC [https://www.ufc.com] Dana White  [https://www.instagram.com/danawhite/] Wooler Brands [https://catalyst-spirits.com] Fireball  [https://www.fireballwhisky.com] Coke [https://www.coca-cola.com] release-it  [https://github.com/release-it/release-it] changelog [https://keepachangelog.com/en/1.0.0/]  GitHub Actions [https://github.com/features/actions] semantic-release-bot [https://www.npmjs.com/~semantic-release-bot] Hacker News [https://news.ycombinator.com] Microsoft  [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/] GitLab [https://about.gitlab.com] github-changelog-generator  [https://github.com/github-changelog-generator/github-changelog-generator] Ember.js [https://emberjs.com] fresh [https://fresh.deno.dev] Next.js [https://nextjs.org] Node [https://nodejs.org/en/] Yarn [https://yarnpkg.com] Hooks [https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html] Starbeam [https://github.com/wycats/starbeam/] Astro [https://astro.build] JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]  zerojs [http://technohippy.github.io/zero.js/] nojs [https://www.npmjs.com/package/nojs] Preact [https://preactjs.com] React [https://reactjs.org] Optix< [https://www.optixapp.com]

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