Conversation with Former Mega-Church Pastor Fred Herron (e050)

Timmy had a great *conversation with former Mega-Church Pastor Fred Herron. Fred is founder of the Vineyard Church in north Kansas City, and former Lead Teaching Pastor. In 2018 Fred Herron "fell from grace" as they say in the Evangelical Church, but is now emerging with a new and deeper perspective and understanding on many things. You can simply Google his name and find out what the news reported, not all that you read is true, go figure ... media getting it wrong! I digress. But he did check himself in to a 120 day recovery program and has a story to tell. Enjoy.  *I promise Timmy wasn't interrupting Fred nearly as bad as recording seems to reveal. There's something in the way the phone recording that made it sound that way. It overlaps the two voices for some reason.