EPISODE · Jul 17, 2026 · 1H 5M
Conversations With An Economic Hitman with John Perkins
from The Shepheard-Walwyn Podcast · host Shepheard-Walwyn Publisher
In this special episode, Shepheard-Walwyn host Jonathan Brown sits down with John Perkins, a former Economic Hitman and gets the conversation going by breaking down the political system of our generation. The four pillars of that system: fear, debt, scarcity, and divide-and-conquer- show how political messaging can be engineered to keep populations anxious, dependent, and easy to manipulate. John explains how debt can be used as a tool of control, why GDP can be misleading as a measure of prosperity, how patronage and corruption are normalised, and how international arrangements like the Saudi petrodollar system were structured to keep wealth and power flowing in one direction. He argues that real change starts by changing perception, stepping beyond fear, and asking better questions about work, value, and the kind of future we want to build. John Perkins official website: https://johnperkins.org The Art of the Steal: https://www.johnperkins.org/art-of-the-steal Confessions of an Economic Hit Man (3rd updated edition): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1523001895?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback Visit our website: https://shepheardwalwyn.com Connect with us! Join our newsletter: https://forms.fillout.com/t/mCqa2JC1Aqus
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In this special episode, Shepheard-Walwyn host Jonathan Brown sits down with John Perkins, a former Economic Hitman and gets the conversation going by breaking down the political system of our generation. The four pillars of that system: fear, debt, scarcity, and divide-and-conquer- show how political messaging can be engineered to keep populations anxious, dependent, and easy to manipulate.John explains how debt can be used as a tool of control, why GDP can be misleading as a measure of prosperity, how patronage and corruption are normalised, and how international arrangements like the Saudi petrodollar system were structured to keep wealth and power flowing in one direction. He argues that real change starts by changing perception, stepping beyond fear, and asking better questions about work, value, and the kind of future we want to build. John Perkins official website: https://johnperkins.org The Art of the Steal: https://www.johnperkins.org/art-of-the-steal Confessions of an Economic Hit Man (3rd updated edition): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1523001895?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback Visit our website: https://shepheardwalwyn.com Connect with us! Join our newsletter: https://forms.fillout.com/t/mCqa2JC1Aqus
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