Conversations with John Lane - Episode 4: The indefectibility and visibility of the Church, and where is the Church today?

In this episode, Louie and John discuss the Church’s indefectibility, the visibility of the true Church, and the unique role of the Roman See. Drawing on sources like the 1917 Catholic Encyclopedia, Pope Leo XIII, and St. Cyprian, they explore how the Church can remain indefectible even when Rome appears overrun by error. John discusses the distinction between the Church’s objective visibility and our subjective ability to perceive it, the implications of heretical claimants to the papacy, and how future theologians might interpret the post‑Vatican II crisis. The conversation also touches on the SSPX’s evolving stance toward sedevacantism and the challenges of identifying the true Roman Church today.John also answers viewer questions about the status of recent popes. He also addresses a common misconception by many sedevacantists: the idea that all of the acts of public heretics AntiPope lack jurisdiction, when a distinction needs to be made regarding their lack of ordinary jurisdiction vs jurisdiction being supplied to their acts where they are for the good of the Church.It’s a thoughtful examination of where the Church is—and where she isn’t— and how she can continue to exist in a time of unprecedented confusion. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit greatcatholicpodcasts.substack.com