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EPISODE · Apr 21, 2026 · 42 MIN

Founders Are Working on the Wrong Things

from Systems of Scale · host Ian Gatzke

Download the Program Execution System Toolkit:https://implementgpts.com/pestoolkit===============In this episode, I sat down with Kelly Roach to unpack what actually drives business growth when a company starts to plateau.Kelly explains why so many founders get stuck by focusing inward instead of staying market facing, and why the most effective CEOs keep returning to the basic fundamentals rather than chasing more tactics.We also explored Kelly’s concept of conviction marketing, how category leadership is built by solving the gaps others ignore, and why trust has become one of the most important forces shaping buying behavior today.Our conversation also covers activation over activity, the role of feedback loops in building useful offers, and why simplicity matters when trying to improve client execution.This is a practical episode for founders who want clearer growth decisions, stronger positioning, and more consistent business momentum.===============Kelly’s Links:- Website: https://kellyroachinternational.com/- Website: https://www.thebusinessadvisory.com/- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyroachint/- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kelly.roach.520- YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@KellyRoachThe Miracle Hour Book:https://www.themiraclehourbook.com/===============- My LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-gatzke/- Schedule Free Blueprinting Call: https://api.leadconnectorhq.com/widget/bookings/implement-ai-blueprinting===============Highlights:00:00 Intro Setup00:35 Revenue Drivers03:50 Strategy Hopping08:23 Market Facing11:25 Highest Best16:14 Conviction Marketing21:33 Category Creation23:55 Coaching Gap25:20 Trust Recession29:21 AI Hype35:19 Execution Gap37:18 Miracle Hour40:27 Outreach Simplicity42:25 Feedback Loops45:12 Billboard Message

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