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EPISODE · Feb 11, 2026 · 22 MIN

Convictions Or Clout: What Are We Really Defending

from Incoming with Margie Avery · host Margie Avery

💬 Text Margie your thoughts or questionsEver notice how our outrage shifts depending on who’s holding the megaphone? We take a hard, honest look at immigration, enforcement, protest tactics, and the stories we tell to excuse what we’d condemn in our opponents. The goal isn’t to score points—it’s to find the ground where compassion and consistency can both stand.We start by pulling immigration debate back to the right branch of government. Presidents enforce; Congress writes and rewrites. That frame matters when people remain undocumented for decades while temporary fixes masquerade as reform. We call out fraud in public programs—not to smear communities, but to insist that stealing from a safety net robs those it exists to serve. Getting away with it for years never turned theft into policy.Civil liberties sit at the center of the enforcement segment. Identification, warrants, and probable cause are non-negotiable if we want trust. We push for visible, lawful policing and tighter coordination with local departments, while reminding listeners that interfering with lawful duties crosses a clear line. Documentation, lawsuits, and policy change work better—and last longer—than harassment or spectacle.Double standards get their own spotlight. If storming buildings is insurrection, why is tailing officers, disrupting hotels, or blocking operations somehow noble when our side does it? We also test cultural reciprocity: expecting English in the U.S. doesn’t demand cultural erasure, but it does recognize shared infrastructure and safety. And we interrogate performative allyship that romanticizes symbols while ignoring women living under coercion; real solidarity expands freedom, it doesn’t shrink it.We close by challenging social programs that trap people with benefit cliffs and no exit ramps. A serious safety net should smooth the path to stability, not punish progress. Throughout, we invite you to hold multiple truths: protect due process and punish fraud; welcome newcomers and require shared rules; protest boldly and stay within the law. If you value honest debate over easy applause, press play, then tell us where you agree, where you don’t, and what we missed. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs a thoughtful listen, and leave a review with your strongest counterpoint.Have thoughts on today’s episode? I’d love to hear your perspective.You can text the show directly.Your message may be shared in future episodes or help shape future episodes.Support the showLooking for a great bike helmet check out Unit .  I do not get paid in any way from them. I was in search of a safe cool helmet and found them to hit all the marks. Lots of techie gadgets and safety features.  They did give me a discount code for you guys MARGIE54640. Use this code at checkout. https://unit1gear.com/

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💬 Text Margie your thoughts or questions Ever notice how our outrage shifts depending on who’s holding the megaphone? We take a hard, honest look at immigration, enforcement, protest tactics, and the stories we tell to excuse what we’d condemn in our opponents. The goal isn’t to score points—it’s to find the ground where compassion and consistency can both stand. We start by pulling immigration debate back to the right branch of government. Presidents enforce; Congress writes and rewrites. T...

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