EPISODE · Apr 20, 2026 · 14 MIN
Convos: Instant OpenClaw on your phone
from The Next New Thing · host Andrew Warner
Presented by Zapier: https://zapier.com/👉 Priority Launch List: https://thenextnewthing.ai/l/shane-priority-launch-list👉 Shane Mac (X): https://x.com/ShaneMac👉 Shane Mac (LinkedIn): https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemacsays/👉 XMTP: https://xmtp.org/⏱ Timestamps00:00 Launch AI agents on your phone00:09 Copy any app with a prompt or screenshot00:18 Creating an agent inside Convos00:36 Agents provisioned with tools automatically00:45 OpenClaw vs Hermes agents00:54 What makes something an “agent”01:21 Limited rollout and waitlist access01:30 Turning a screenshot into an app02:06 Demo: calorie tracking agent02:33 From app → personalized AI coach03:18 Training agents with personal data03:54 Building a fully customized fitness assistant04:30 Why agents get better over time05:06 Backing from Andreessen Horowitz + USV05:15 Coordinating group events with agents06:00 Replacing chaotic group chats06:45 Agent managing RSVPs, timing, logistics07:21 Real-time updates and humor in chat08:06 Monitoring content with “Radar” agents09:00 Tracking writers, artists, and updates09:45 Daily summaries across the internet10:30 Personalized alerts and insights10:57 Relationship + life coordination agent11:24 Daily plans, reservations, and logistics12:09 Combining multiple tools into one system12:18 Product rollout and waitlist strategy12:54 Future integrations (Notion, calendars, etc.)13:21 Why messaging becomes the main interface13:39 Agents talking to other agents14:06 Privacy and coordination between agentsWhat if your apps weren’t apps anymore—but agents you talk to inside a chat?In this episode of The Next New Thing, Andrew Warner sits down with Shane Mac to explore Convos, a new platform where you can launch AI agents directly on your phone—and have them act like full apps inside a conversation.Instead of downloading tools, you create agents by describing what you want. They get provisioned with email, phone numbers, browsing, and memory—then join your chats like participants. From there, you can clone apps, coordinate events, track information across the internet, or even build personalized systems that evolve over time.Shane demos how a simple screenshot can turn into a working app, how agents can act as assistants inside group chats, and how they can coordinate with other agents without exposing your personal data.The bigger idea: the interface is shifting from apps to conversations—and agents become the layer that connects everything you do.
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Presented by Zapier: https://zapier.com/👉 Priority Launch List: https://thenextnewthing.ai/l/shane-priority-launch-list👉 Shane Mac (X): https://x.com/ShaneMac👉 Shane Mac (LinkedIn): https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemacsays/👉 XMTP: https://xmtp.org/⏱ Timestamps00:00 Launch AI agents on your phone00:09 Copy any app with a prompt or screenshot00:18 Creating an agent inside Convos00:36 Agents provisioned with tools automatically00:45 OpenClaw vs Hermes agents00:54 What makes something an “agent”01:21 Limited rollout and waitlist access01:30 Turning a screenshot into an app02:06 Demo: calorie tracking agent02:33 From app → personalized AI coach03:18 Training agents with personal data03:54 Building a fully customized fitness assistant04:30 Why agents get better over time05:06 Backing from Andreessen Horowitz + USV05:15 Coordinating group events with agents06:00 Replacing chaotic group chats06:45 Agent managing RSVPs, timing, logistics07:21 Real-time updates and humor in chat08:06 Monitoring content with “Radar” agents09:00 Tracking writers, artists, and updates09:45 Daily summaries across the internet10:30 Personalized alerts and insights10:57 Relationship + life coordination agent11:24 Daily plans, reservations, and logistics12:09 Combining multiple tools into one system12:18 Product rollout and waitlist strategy12:54 Future integrations (Notion, calendars, etc.)13:21 Why messaging becomes the main interface13:39 Agents talking to other agents14:06 Privacy and coordination between agentsWhat if your apps weren’t apps anymore—but agents you talk to inside a chat?In this episode of The Next New Thing, Andrew Warner sits down with Shane Mac to explore Convos, a new platform where you can launch AI agents directly on your phone—and have them act like full apps inside a conversation.Instead of downloading tools, you create agents by describing what you want. They get provisioned with email, phone numbers, browsing, and memory—then join your chats like participants. From there, you can clone apps, coordinate events, track information across the internet, or even build personalized systems that evolve over time.Shane demos how a simple screenshot can turn into a working app, how agents can act as assistants inside group chats, and how they can coordinate with other agents without exposing your personal data.The bigger idea: the interface is shifting from apps to conversations—and agents become the layer that connects everything you do.
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