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EPISODE · Mar 17, 2025 · 50 MIN

Could Aliens Be Using Light to Communicate? A New Era of SETI with Shelley Wright [ep. 483]

from Into the Impossible With Brian Keating · host Big Bang Productions Inc.

Pique is offering 20% off for life AND a free Starter Kit with your purchase—that's a rechargeable frother and glass beaker to make the perfect cup every time. Just go to http://piquelife.com/impossible Please join my mailing list here 👉 https://briankeating.com/list to win a meteorite 💥 Are We Searching for Aliens the Wrong Way? Historically, SETI has focused primarily on radio waves because they can travel vast distances through interstellar gas and dust with minimal absorption and require less energy to transmit compared to other wavelengths. This approach dates back to the 1960s, when astronomer Frank Drake conducted the first modern SETI experiment, Project Ozma. However, in recent years, optical SETI and infrared SETI have started to gain traction. Here today to tell us everything about this new era of SETI is the remarkable observational and experimental astrophysicist Shelley Wright! Shelley is a Professor of Astronomy, Astrophysics, and Physics at UCSD. She specializes in designing and using astronomical instruments that make use of adaptive optics, with a particular focus on techniques involving integral field spectrographs. As a SETI researcher and instrumentalist, there is no one better to shed light on this topic than her! Join us in our hunt for extraterrestrial life. — Key Takeaways:  00:00 Intro: Shelley Wright 01:26 Shelley’s background 02:19 Drake equation and life in the universe 08:28 Instrument development  14:55 Optical SETI and Fresnel lenses  16:49 SETI vs. radio listening  20:32 Background contamination and protocols  22:35 Ethical considerations and messaging aliens 23:57 Life on Mars and the origins of life  27:57 UAP committee and conspiracy theories 39:08 Galileo Project 40:46 Final thoughts and advice  45:21 Outro  — Additional resources:  ➡️ Learn more about Shelley Wright: 💻  Website: https://saw.physics.ucsd.edu/ ➡️ Follow me on your fav platforms: ✖️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrBrianKeating  🔔 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/DrBrianKeating?sub_confirmation=1  📝 Join my mailing list: https://briankeating.com/list  ✍️ Check out my blog: https://briankeating.com/cosmic-musings/  🎙️ Follow my podcast: https://briankeating.com/podcast  — Into the Impossible with Brian Keating is a podcast dedicated to all those who want to explore the universe within and beyond the known. Make sure to follow so you never miss an episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pique is offering 20% off for life AND a free Starter Kit with your purchase—that's a rechargeable frother and glass beaker to make the perfect cup every time. Just go to http://piquelife.com/impossible Please join my mailing list here 👉 https://briankeating.com/list to win a meteorite 💥 Are We Searching for Aliens the Wrong Way? Historically, SETI has focused primarily on radio waves because they can travel vast distances through interstellar gas and dust with minimal absorption and require less energy to transmit compared to other wavelengths. This approach dates back to the 1960s, when astronomer Frank Drake conducted the first modern SETI experiment, Project Ozma. However, in recent years, optical SETI and infrared SETI have started to gain traction. Here today to tell us everything about this new era of SETI is the remarkable observational and experimental astrophysicist Shelley Wright! Shelley is a Professor of Astronomy, Astrophysics, and Physics at UCSD. She specializes in designing and using astronomical instruments that make use of adaptive optics, with a particular focus on techniques involving integral field spectrographs. As a SETI researcher and instrumentalist, there is no one better to shed light on this topic than her! Join us in our hunt for extraterrestrial life. — Key Takeaways:  00:00 Intro: Shelley Wright 01:26 Shelley’s background 02:19 Drake equation and life in the universe 08:28 Instrument development  14:55 Optical SETI and Fresnel lenses  16:49 SETI vs. radio listening  20:32 Background contamination and protocols  22:35 Ethical considerations and messaging aliens 23:57 Life on Mars and the origins of life  27:57 UAP committee and conspiracy theories 39:08 Galileo Project 40:46 Final thoughts and advice  45:21 Outro  — Additional resources:  ➡️ Learn more about Shelley Wright: 💻  Website: https://saw.physics.ucsd.edu/ ➡️ Follow me on your fav platforms: ✖️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrBrianKeating  🔔 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/DrBrianKeating?sub_confirmation=1  📝 Join my mailing list: https://briankeating.com/list  ✍️ Check out my blog: https://briankeating.com/cosmic-musings/  🎙️ Follow my podcast: https://briankeating.com/podcast  — Into the Impossible with Brian Keating is a podcast dedicated to all those who want to explore the universe within and beyond the known. Make sure to follow so you never miss an episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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