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EPISODE · May 22, 2026 · 38 MIN

Counting the Cost: What Following Jesus Actually Requires, ft. Jason Cook | The Good Fight

from The Pioneer Assembly · host Bethany Barr Phillips

What does it actually cost to follow Jesus? In this episode of Pioneer Assembly, Bethany Barr Phillips sits down with pastor and longtime friend, Jason Cook, for an honest conversation about discipleship, suffering, surrender, disappointment, obedience, and the reality of counting the cost of the call. Together, they unpack the tension between calling and comfort, the dangers of shallow Christianity, why so many people become disillusioned in their faith, and how the modern church often underprepares believers for suffering. From the prosperity gospel to perseverance, from loneliness to long obedience, this conversation refuses easy answers and instead points listeners toward a deeper, more durable faith. They discuss: What Jesus really meant by “count the cost.” Why suffering & disappointment are part of discipleship. The difference between calling, comfort, & unnecessary striving. Why salvation is the starting line. The role of community in discerning God’s voice. How faithfulness is formed over time. Whether you’re wrestling with disappointment, questioning your calling, walking through hardship, or simply trying to stay faithful in the long obedience of following Jesus, this episode is a reminder that the cost is real… but so is the presence of God. “The decision to follow Jesus is a one-time decision for all time… that you make every single day.” Scripture References: Luke 14:27–33 Luke 9:23 2 Corinthians 12 About Jason: With over 20 years of public speaking, pastoral, and leadership experience, Jason Cook is truly a master of inspiring every room. He's been a leader in locker rooms, elder rooms, and boardrooms at a young age -- showcasing his wisdom, humility, and skill across multiple settings. Jason has been an entrepreneur, evangelist, itinerant preacher, church planter, team captain, business owner, and current Senior Pastor of Fellowship Bible Church in Roswell, GA. He holds an M.Div from Beeson Divinity School and serves on its Advisory Board. He and his wife, Courtney, have four children: Charlie, Cager, Boss, and Bishop. They live in the Atlanta area with their two dogs, Apollo and Minnie.  Follow on Instagram or Youtube Follow Substack Follow Bethany  Book Bethany 

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