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EPISODE · Sep 14, 2025 · 1H 5M

Courage, Culture & Tough Calls: Cameron Schwab on Redefining Leadership

from The Numbers Game · host Jason Robinson, Nick Reilly, Martin Vidakovic

Cameron Schwab became the youngest CEO in AFL history at just 24, going on to lead Richmond, Melbourne and Fremantle through some of their toughest chapters. Now the founder of Design CEO, he draws on those experiences to teach leaders how to thrive under pressure. In this chat, Cameron unpacks what true leadership looks like in high-stakes environments, why culture must be built on principles, not slogans, and why authenticity, courage and vulnerability matter more than ever.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(02:29) Carrying The Weight Of Leadership And Legacy(04:36) Parenting, Perspective And The Role Of Family(10:55) Becoming CEO of Richmond FC at 24 Years Old(16:14) Taking On Richmond And Facing Financial Crisis(20:09) Culture As An Outcome And Building The Right Team(23:44) Why Authentic Leaders Must Be Vulnerable(31:29) Four Key Questions Every Leader Should Answer(35:09) Bringing Mistakes Into The Room And Learning From Them(41:38) The Four Postures Of Effective Leadership Conversations(45:31) Creating Your Leadership Trademark(49:15) How Music And Daily Rituals Shape Leadership Mindset(56:01) Overcoming Fear And Laziness As A Leader(59:42) Making Sense, Meaning, Progress And Numbers(01:02:00) Where To Find Cameron SchwabConnect with Cameron Schwab on LinkedIn or you can visit their websiteCheck out the free resources from Inovayt here.Send us an email: [email protected] Numbers Game is brought to you by Future Advisory & Inovayt.Hosts:Nick ReillyJason RobinsonMartin VidakovicThis podcast is produced by VIDPOD. Check out our new website thenumbersgamepodcast.com.au. Browse the full show catalogue, jump straight to specific moments on the topics you love, or leave us a voice note. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Cameron Schwab became the youngest CEO in AFL history at just 24, going on to lead Richmond, Melbourne and Fremantle through some of their toughest chapters. Now the founder of Design CEO, he draws on those experiences to teach leaders how to thrive under pressure. In this chat, Cameron unpacks what true leadership looks like in high-stakes environments, why culture must be built on principles, not slogans, and why authenticity, courage and vulnerability matter more than ever.

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