Creating a Space People Actually Want to Show Up To ft. Jackie Warmington

Jackie Warmington didn't take a traditional path to becoming COO of Den 1880 — she found the role through a chance conversation after a failed job interview. In this episode, we sit down with Jackie to talk about building community the right way, why follower count is a vanity metric, and what it actually means to create a space where people want to show up. We get into the organic networking culture at Den 1880, the new gym and wellness facility, content strategy for local businesses, knowing when to say no to clients, and why going viral might actually work against you. If you're a business owner trying to build something real — this one's for you. A podcast about what really goes on behind the scenes of building brands, businesses, and personal platforms. We talk marketing, content, branding, community, and the uncomfortable middle between idea and execution. Built for founders, creators, and business owners who want honest conversations, not recycled advice. Hosted by Matt and Olivia. Audio-only for now. New episodes regularly. Listen & subscribe → Apple Podcasts → Spotify Follow along → Instagram: @Mattortlieb_ @oliviamckerrow @ortliebmedia