Crimson Peak (2015)

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Good job. I'm trying to find a bunch of stuff. I was like, what? Doing a del Toro would be fun.

And, you know, there are horror del Toro movies, right? Like, we could have gone a little bit earlier in his career and done something a little bit more... Like, mimic? I mean, this is horror.

I shouldn't say bye. Only two? Shit! Come on!

We've done a blade. I know. We've done a real blade movies on the podcast. I think we were waiting for the new one to come out, which has been a few years.

That is true. We haven't been in like, whatever that movie comes out. We'll finally talk about a blade every year. We're bleeding as we squeeze that blade in our hands.

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I just, I fucking thought we were going to get into, I thought we were watching a vampire movie. And I didn't know that this was not a vampire movie. That's hilarious. Oh, you didn't know anything about this movie?

I know you didn't. I had zero information about this movie. I know that my sister liked this movie a lot because she was about... She was...

2015, so she was... 15. Like, right, so she was 15 years old when this came out and like, this was a perfect, I feel like, entry point to like that world of film. You know, you could do a big Gothic-E or Gothic inspired thing and you could make that happen even if it was trash, like beastly or like beautiful creatures or like that type of shit.

And Crimson Peak, I feel like fell in line with that, at least in my head. Like, it still like got the interest of that group of people. Yeah, I think it also, there was a lot of movies, there was a lot of movies that were coming out around this time that are very similar to this in the sense of like period piece, old house type movies. And I think that those were maybe a little bit more critically acclaimed than this one, but I'm like, this one is beautiful.

Oh, it's just the cinema. The cinema of this movie is insane. Yeah, yeah, it was a pleasant surprise. So, but this was, but yes, it was sight unseen.

And it's interesting that you rated it two and a half, Matt, when you first logged in. I think that that was an accident. It had been an accident because sometimes when I hit the, when you hit the, previously, no, like sometimes when I rate a movie on Letterbox and then I like want to tab down to see like what people's reviews are, it like just starts deducting half stars. It's definitely like five star of the movie and then scroll back up and I'm like half a star.

Jules? No! Got it, got it. Okay, yeah, I had a lot of fun with this one.

That's beautiful. Beautiful movies. I would hear history in this one. I think that Megan and I saw this, we, I don't think we saw it in theaters but we definitely watched it on some streaming service as soon as it hit because Megan loves a ghost story and sorry, spoilers, it's a fucking ghost story.

It's not a thing. It's not a thing. It turns out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's just very, it's just a good movie and it just looks good and I, going in and like knowing the twists, don't really do it a whole lot of service. Sure. It's still like, I was able to just kind of exist and enjoy it just because it's so pretty. You know, it's a long movie and it's not really my thing but it's just too pretty not to enjoy.

I love it the first time too. It's not something like an insane thing to say about a movie that has one of the most brutal kills. I've seen it in a long time but like for the first... A little Face Stem?

No, I was thinking of the face being smashed over and over and over again into a sick... Yeah, that's pretty fucking crazy. Yeah, but like this movie has a lot of coziness when it's not a horror movie. Like there's a lot of like little women vibes when it's not the horror parts of the movie where you're just like, just a little warm little like period piece from the early 1800s or early 1900s and then crazy shit happens at random points.

How about you walk us through a pretty sparse plot as much as I like this movie. The plot doesn't justify the hour and 50 minute run time. No, no, once you get an idea of it, it's very cozy and gothic and it just has all this merchandise. Like it just does its thing.

But Crimson Peak starts out with a young girl getting a ghostly warning to be aware of Crimson Peak. And that's when I was like, I wonder how they're going to tie the same with Vampirism. I was still not there yet. But then we fly forward to that girl who has more grown up now and she's writing fiction about ghosts and trying to get it published.

But it's a man's world so she's having a hard time with that. Which again, I imagine Kyle sitting there like they're really harping on the ghosts for this vampire movie. I'm really saying the ghosts are ghosts. The ghost went vampire victims?

What's his name? Is it Middle Ditch? Tom Hiddleston? Yeah, Tom Hiddleston?

I mean I was going to call him Loki, but I'm trying to see what he comes in. When he comes in, I'm still in Vampireland. I'm still like, oh he has a layer. This is crazy.

Okay, fine. I look bad. It's not as bad as the time that you watched the wrong movie with the same title. You're fine.

I'm not going to be ever that dumb. That is crazy. And that was so early on. That was like your first bundle.

You can show. Anyway, her name is Edith Carter. And she is now older. And she's working for her dad who is working without him, but trying to use his typewriter at the office.

And this is where this all starts because there's a man named Sir Thomas Sharp who wants to pitch this coal-digging, clay-digging machine to dig this red clay that will make building materials even better. But he needs funding for this machine. And Edith's dad's like, nah dude, you came in here. Which I was like, it looks like a fun little toy.

And then he was like, you came in here with a toy and no one funding from anybody else from all over Europe. But you've come to New York because now you need funding from us. And he walks away with his tail between his legs. But then he also manages to woo Edith Carter with his time there.

And Sir Thomas Sharp's sister, Lucille, played by Jessica Chastain is also with him. And we kind of get the vibe that they are here to exploit somebody or something. We just get that vibe. There's nefarious something.

Yeah. They have no good vibes to anybody else except Edith here because Edith is falling in love with Sir Thomas Sharp. Yeah, her dad sniffs through this shit pretty quickly. Pretty quick.

But this is, you know, and he, and he, and because he's a big businessman, he knows how to buy people off and manipulate the situation. He is like, hey, you're not fucking hanging out with my dog anymore. You're not going to marry her. And you are going to go away.

I'm going to give you this money, you and your sister this money, and you're going to fuck right off. And you're going to break her heart on the way out. Yeah. Which credit we're credit to.

The father could have just done this without finding out that they were up to something nefarious, but he was more just like, something smells fishy about this. I'm going to have someone investigate them. And if my suspicions are correct, then I will, you know, drop the definition. I think that's great.

Yeah. Because he's rich enough that he could have just pulled him aside and been like, I don't like you. I don't trust you. Here's a check.

Leave my daughter alone and break her heart. But it's like, no, you're going to do something fucked up because I have all these receipts for you. But the problem is that he showed receipts, which leads to what happens to him. Which is to a very brutal kill.

Which is awesome. It is so awesome. Because you know that he's going to, like the way that the scene is shot, you know he's going to die. Yeah.

And there's this whole setup where he's looking in the mirror and he's shaving and he drops his straight razor. And like every part of my brain is like, he's going to get his throat slit with that straight razor. That's the thing that makes the most sense here. And then he just gets his face slammed into the side of this porcelain sink like eight times as you're just seeing like the wider gap in his skull breaking through.

And then he shatters half the fucking sink, falls to the ground and then the water cascades out of the broken sink. And like again, beautiful coloring. You have this like pinkish water floating around because it's blending the water with the blade. Again, like del Toro can shoot the most violent, brutal things in the most beautiful ways.

So he, I mean, this is such a giallo moment in a del Toro movie and I fucking love it. My favorite moment in the whole movie. Yeah. It was, it was gnarly.

And you can see like from this stuff like how he can easily moves to something like later down the road shape of water and then on to Frankenstein. So you can see that trajectory. I mean, you're constantly standing. He's like, I hit them hands, labyrinth.

He done the orphanage or he produced the orphanage. He did it by this point, I think. Yeah. Yeah.

So he's like, you know, he's, he can work in beautiful production design and just keep giving it. I mean, listen, I didn't love Frankenstein, but there's no world where that movie is not going to clean up on all of the like set and cinematography stuff. Like I feel like it could like a set designs and stuff. You're just like, what a master, what a mad man who knows exactly the people to keep close with you to keep bringing from project to project and just let them work their magic for you.

Yeah. That's very true. Very true. Which I just want to this fact, we're out there.

Yes. Speaking of del Toro bringing people with him to work their magic, Doug Jones being half of the female ghosts that we see in this movie. Did you guys know that? Yeah, we all got that.

Using his like tall, lanky body still to be a female ghost. I'm like, and they are the cool. Like his, the ghost that Doug Jones plays are the coolest fucking. They show up because they look so like scrawny and emaciated from things.

I would have preferred less CGI on the ghosts, but I think that's also of the time, you know, very much. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's exactly where we're heading next because after this kill, we sort of sharp ends up confessing that he was paid off and that he's going to come and get it and they go away to what is that? Atterdale Hall in England.

Is that in foggy London town? I have a question for you. Does that Hall have like an alternative name that towns from call it? Oh, yes.

Crimson Peak. Oh, no. That's the name of the movie. Interesting.

But she doesn't find that out for a womp. She's there for a couple weeks before she's. A couple weeks. Really important.

And upon her arrival, a stray dog with a collar comes up and they decided to take that dog in. And now she has a pet in a new home and a new husband and a new sister-in-law who feels a little bit weird vibes exuding off of the sister-in-law. And we chalk it up to her being anxious and not having separation anxiety and all these things from her brother in this house that's falling apart, literally sinking into the ground. And the red and red goo is leaking out of the walls and the debris is just gently falling from the roof at all times.

It's a gnarly house. But now it's no longer a house. It's a home because Edith Carter has arrived. But there's fucking ghosts in there, dog.

And she sees ghosts really easily. She has a fine-tuned ghost radar from her house and now to this house, which she's been warned about in previous visitations from ghosts. But she pays that no mind currently because she doesn't know by that name. But she's also not that.

She's freaked out, but like she's not as freaked out as I expect her to be about seeing ghosts. And she's reacting like someone who has been seeing ghosts for quite a while at this point. That's exactly right. Yes.

But it's funny right now we're showing Barb's oldest, the Umbrella Academy because he's never seen it. And I forgot that a big plot point of most of that show is Klaus hating seeing ghosts so much that he chooses to be high 24-7. Which I think is actually the more human way to deal with the fact that ghosts are just around you at all times fucking with you. But she can imagine the wife before this just like high on opium.

That also didn't go according to plans. She's like, I can't fucking do it in this house. I just want to make a quick note. When she first gets to this house, he shows her some of his inventions.

And one is this like little toy that hides a bead and then it falls down the inside and then he opens his mouth and it falls out of his mouth and it goes in a constant loop. And I just want to note that that's the type of kitschy crap that I would buy for myself and just show people all the time. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude.

You're going to start a cast iron bank collection of those things that fucking flip coins into their mouths. All of our DVDs set up and it's been raised. Yeah. Yeah, we need what we need us to do a DVD player.

That's like that. We have to use DVDs because they're cheap right now. But if we can get some sort of electronic DVD player that you have a figure eat the DVD before it plays, I don't know, man. I listen, that all you're reminding me of is like this Star Wars piggy bank with my parents got me when I was a kid that was so much more complicated than just putting a coin in a piggy bank was that you put the quarter in front of R2D2 and it triggered a two minute conversation between C3P and R2D2 before R2D2D2 just rolled out of the door.

And of course, me being like seven, every coin I had to go through the whole process. I was like, I just got, I got to keep seeing it and do its thing. Yeah. You're getting paid 25 cents an hour.

You're making a lot more. Jesus. Yeah, well, I'm excited for your new collection. Yeah.

That is, we never returned to that place at all, like his invention station. Listen, you said that this movie could lose a few minutes. Like I'm sad that I won't see that toy, but we could have, we could have, what the fuck was it? We could have had a conversation from the kitchen in there and then we would have been, yeah, we would have saved 10 minutes, but we don't.

It's because he just becomes, I wanted to spend a little bit more money in the room. We wanted to play with all his chotchkes. Half of that production stuff is from his fucking house. He just wants to like set up a place that he can play with his things while, like, you know, our show is actor friends, all his little collection while they do a scene.

Just an excuse. And I love him for it. I would do the same. But, okay, so we're in this house.

I forgot to mention that Allen is an eye doctor back in New York who was in cahoots with Edith's dad about feeling sketched out by these people and he ends up going, they end up finding out that Surtama Sharpe has been, is still currently married apparently by records, and that he has now taken Edith as his wife, but, you know, not legally. So, Allen is like, there is something fishy. I'm going to try to finish what her dad started. I'm going to travel there in fucking winter to then go figure out what's happening.

All the while, Edith has also found out this same information separately by traveling throughout the house and going where she's forbidden to go, which is down into the subterranean basement, where the house is not going to be there. And there's a lot of things that are going to be happening in the basement where there is more red goo and chests that are all locked and in vats of goo, which she pays no fucking mind to really in the grand scheme of things. Like, you know, even- No questions asked. Just like, oh, this is the basement goo.

We have a furnace. Right. If I was like, oh, our house, but our house runs on oil. We have a furnace.

But if there's a puddle of oil in my basement, I'm concerned for the rest of the house. So if there's vats of whatever this clay is, it's also coming out of the walls. I would talk to my new husband about maybe getting rid of his vat of red collection. Maybe we could do something else in this basement.

I don't know, bro. I have a more efficient home. Solar panels? Have you fucking heard of them?

Sorry. I'm going to need it about Crimson Peak. Things are bad inside the house. Then people start to find out more about this.

She sees more ghosts. And finally, she- I'm jumping ahead here, but she brings it all up after a night away where she stays away from the house because the winter storm has kept her and her husband at bay. I think this is a moment where he actually starts to fall in love with her and not have these ulterior motives, which he and Lucille have for her. What were the ulterior motives, though?

I didn't write that down. Oh, so they basically constantly are- so there's a few things. What do they need from her? They get married and take her money and then Lucille keeps- That's right.

Okay. Lucille- the vampire thing still fucks me up, dude. I'm still trying to think of them as vampires. It's really bad.

Well, because- they want money, but also Lucille has a sexual relationship with her brother, so she also kills all of his wives. Yeah. And I like that- like what she thinks is going to be Edus last day, she kind of lets the cat out of the bag. You know, she lets Edus like walk in on them, making love, and then she like chases her back out, but she puts up a fight.

She ends up stabbing Lucille with the pen that her dad- Edus. Yeah. She stabs Edus and then- but then Lucille gets to then stab Sir Thomas. Well, so what happens is that- this is- Charlie Hunnan.

So Charlie Hunnan, or whatever character he plays, is the one that has also been researching this family. He shows up and Lucille wants Sir Thomas to kill him, and Sir Thomas has this moment of redemption where he basically purposely aims for a non- Well, he tells- he's like, you're a doctor, tell me where to poke you. Yeah, yeah, he's basically just like, I don't want to kill you. Where can I stab you?

You'll be fine. Not fine. But you know what I mean? Where?

It won't be fatal. It won't be fatal. So he stabs him and Lucille seals like, sweet for a little bit and then realizes that this dude ain't fucking dying. So then she stabs Thomas.

And she stabs Thomas in the face and then to just basically spite the whole situation because they're not going to get the money if he's not going to- or she's not going to share the money with her if this is not the way that this is going to go. So then she ends up stabbing him in the face and then going after Edith. They fight down into the cellar and then she climbs up and out into the winter air. And it had this really cool ghostly fight where Lucille is running around all the equipment.

She's kind of chasing after Edith and Edith is trying to hide. It's a really great scene. And it's also pretty brutal because when they do showdown, then Edith sees Sir Thomas's ghost, which distracts Lucille. Edith is able to take down Lucille with a shovel, which is gnarly.

And Edith has one more beautiful moment with this ghost. Which is kind of the CGI of it all. I think because he was still in makeup and it still worked, but I wanted him to be more physical. So then she physically touches the ghost.

And I just wanted him to- I don't know. He's a new ghost. He's not like the old ghosts in the house. He has a little bit more spirit still.

He's not quite in ghost mode yet. Yeah, we haven't mentioned, but the older the ghosts are, the more they're blood covered- Well, not covered in the red clay. That's what I mean by, like, to the viewer. It's just like these red monstrosities of what used- We see like a ghost fetus at one point.

We see some crazy shit when these ghosts start coming out. And then yes, because he has just recently been killed. He's like, you know, your typical cast were the friendly ghost type ghost here. That's what the- I just looked at the circular bone.

It's like ghostly bleeding just a little bit. I do like the fact that the blood kind of like wisps up. That's really cool CGI. I just think that it's overdone a lot in this movie.

It's not the worst CGI we've ever seen on this show, but it's some of the most unnecessary- I would like so much of this. Del Toro, you're a master of that camera. There are so many easy in camera tricks to get what you're trying to do here. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah. I was pleasantly surprised, even if I'm still confused about it. Oh, and then Edith and her doctor friend survive and they leave the place.

Thank you. Yes, and they bail. And we see those ghosts on the Honskrimson Peak playing the piano for all of their hands. I love how many shots from this do- particularly exteriors do feel like the paperback covers of Gothic romance novels.

There are so many shots that are so beautiful. A colorful dress and a neutral background or vice versa. It's really a gorgeous movie. So it's definitely worth watching, if not just for the vibes, you know, because it's great.

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Well, after you're done watching this with some people Kyle, what would you want to put on next? This is definitely the one, this is probably the movie I had the most potential double features of that I wrote down. I have six that I wrote down. I'm obviously going to go over all six, but I think what I'd actually want to watch is another one about all atmosphere, all vibes, and people who can see and talk to and deal with ghosts.

13 ghosts. That's an energy bump. Totally different shifts, but I love the buying into being in a house that has lots of ghosts. There's a whole air storyline too.

I just think it works for this. Myans would not make people sit and watch this with me, but I did recently re-watch it. A lot of this movie was giving me the same vibes as the mini-series haunting of Hill House that Netflix did. Just the look of the interior of this house felt very Hill House.

The fact that there's just seemingly endless ghosts roaming these hallways and that sometimes you can see them, sometimes you can't. Just felt very similar to me enough, which probably isn't surprising. I'm sure that the Crimson Peak movie is heavily inspired by the original novel, the original Hill House novel. But to have two filmmakers with particular styles and visions be able to portray that in a way that feels right.

They go hand in hand. It feels very interesting. Scratches and chairs. But I'm not going to be like, now that we've watched Crimson Peaks down for the next 10 hours as we watch.

Crimson Peak for breakfast and then you're haunting with the house dressed the bike. The clockwork orange to my couch until it's over. How about you Scott? It's just a funny that Kyle said there's jinkos because I got to watch House of Haunted Hill 99, which is also a dark castle.

Yeah, yeah. Yours is like the perfect middle of both of us. Yeah, it's the sanest of the three, I'd say. That's great.

Do you want to rattle off with your other five? Where are their Kyle? Do you want me to go right into the promo mode? Yeah, no, I will.

I'll just go for it. The changeling, Haunted Mansion, Muppets, Haunted Mansion and Mama. So actually, I'm sorry, I didn't have. I like that you have Haunted Mansion and Muppets, Haunted Mansion.

Well, it depends on what's Muppets, Muppets, and Muppets, too. Yeah, yeah. But Muppets, Haunted Mansion, I just feel like that would be fun. It is a good time, man.

It's 45 minutes shorter. And it's just like, I don't love, I don't like love Mama, but I do feel like the ghosts just mad. There's a lot of del Toro produced movies that I would say that about. I'm like, I don't love this, but I think it looks nice.

They're ghosts and Mama. Oh, watch it now. I just like watch it. Do you think it's a lot of mothers?

I thought that it was a psychological slasher. No, that's Ma. Oh, I think Mama also was Jessica Chastin. It's definitely, Mama is a, I would bet my money is a del Toro produced movie.

It might actually be just like a Chastin movie. Yeah. And it's directed by, no. What is this movie?

It's fine. I like vaguely remember it. I don't think I've ever watched it. I just remember the box.

I saw it in a theater and everybody had the same reaction, which was like, okay. It's good. I mean, I love Jessica Chastin, but that does not look very good to me. That makes a lot more sense.

That the house is a good mom. Yeah. I think an Octavia Spencer. Yeah.

It's a great Mother's Day one. When is it, is it not eligible? I know. I think it's 2018.

I think we have another two years for a while. Hey, you know what you can do that's not for a while, but actually very, very soon. Great feature weekend on March 20th until March 22nd. We'll be there.

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Go to hmmimpodcast.com to buy some shirts to show your support to the show and check out our gigantic back catalog at hmmpodcast.com. Now, Kyle, what is something that you watched, listened to, et cetera, that you want to talk about? Last week, we talked about Wes Craven's last film. I watched Wes Craven's second film, which is not the Hills Have Eyes.

It is the fireworks woman. He did two adult films. And is this a seven release, Kyle? No, this was not through, well, it's through Vinegar Syndrome, but obviously it was Q, I think it's Q video.

I don't know. I can't remember what the, like the sub label was, but through Vinegar Syndrome, they were from, through Vinegar Syndrome, they have Millson, Millson Nail, which is their adult catalog, and then they have a few sub labels under there. Anyway, I had to pick it up. I was like, that's so interesting.

Wes Craven has acknowledged its existence, but has not talked about it in depth even before his passing. There was so little about this film. And I was, as the sort of a completionist or at least curiosity that it was, I snagged it. And I'm still pretty early on in like any sort of criticism about like adult cinema, particularly like, you know, theatrically released or distributed adults in one of the 70s and 80s.

I think that's like a really interesting time period where as film viewers, we considered adult films in a particular light. And I'm still like learning what that is and what that means because I obviously wasn't of that time. But there is a lot of interesting stuff. And I've talked about a couple on here.

Fireworks woman is interesting. It feels like the direct lead up to last house on the left and into the Hill's High Vise. Like there's a very clear way that like West deals with morality or at least like what he views as morality. And then when he wants to make like, you know, the most horrific film he could think of from his super religious upbringing, he makes the last house on the left.

Like the fireworks woman is a somewhat depraved film in a different way where instead of like murder and rape, which there is, excuse me, murder and are, which happens, it's just a really interesting step in a filmmaker's life, particularly for West Craven, who I find to be a really, really interesting filmmaker. So it's an interesting oddity. I don't love it, but as a like a work of West Craven and as a work of like understanding him as a filmmaker, it's an interesting installment. And it has a brother and sister in love.

So that's the thing. That's the moral depravity that I'm like referring to, right? Like he explores that through a lens that like, it's so, I don't know, it's just so interesting. Like the flower childness of Last House on the Left exists in this movie as well, which is odd.

Well, I'm gonna go in the total opposite direction of that. I watched a really wholesome and fun Apple TV series. I liked it so much. I watched it twice in one week.

So it was a show called Stick. It is basically, I would call it Golf Ted Lasso, starring Owen Wilson, Mark Merrin and a few other like lesser known people. What happened was that I was alone for a couple of hours and I watched like the first seven of the eight episodes or something like that. And then I was like, I think Barb would like this.

So I finished it and then immediately was like, we're gonna watch this with this weekend. We don't have the kids. And she was like, have you watched this yet? And you were like, no.

No, I'm a well teller. No, I was like, yes, I did. And I liked it so much, I wanna watch it with you now. But that's not a neurodivergent thing at all.

No, I am not capable of lying even when it's for my benefit. Well, actually not though watching something twice in a row. Twice. I don't even know what the thing is your referring.

When you talk about it. But the very short sell on this show is that Owen Wilson is this washed up golfer who all you know is that he had a huge breakdown at some point when he could have been like the next greatest golfer in the world. Now he's just kind of a trainer. And one day he sees this teenager who is just like crushing the ball.

And he kind of sees a chance to pass his knowledge on to the next generation for this kid to have the things that he couldn't have. And his caddy was Mark Marin. So it's like this, it just kind of turns into like a found family type show where it's like him, Mark Marin, this kid, this kid's mom, and this girl that they meet at one of the first golf tournaments like in an RV together, going to these golf tournaments. But it's so much less about the golfing by like the second episode.

It is so much more about like the lengths that they go to protect each other and take care of each other. And it's just, it really, really, really gave me Ted Lasso vibes throughout. And I just, I really liked it. I really, really, really liked it.

So I think people should check it out. If you're looking for like a wholesome quick watch, it's worth it. And if you're looking for a second wholesome quick watch, you should go to the Disney channel and watch Brink. Yeah!

Because Megan and I finally watched fucking Brink. And she had been talking about Brink, which is an inline skating, a rollerblading movie. Now, any listeners that, you know, long time ago it was a show, no, that I am a huge fan of Airborne. It's also a rollerblading movie, a far superior rollerblading movie that, if it didn't exist, there'd be no fucking Brink.

But Brink is very charming in its own way. It's very, it's very, of its time, I turned to Megan and she's like singing along to like the fucking Scasongs in it, that I've never heard. And I'm like, I thought that you said that you didn't like this one. And she's like, no, I would watch it any time I was at my dance house because they have a Disney channel there.

And so she'd watch this movie probably a dozen times growing up, you know, as a pre-teen. And she loved it. And I thought that it was like a joke that she was like, oh, we're gonna watch Brink, it's so bad. And so like, I was not prepared for it being so fun and for her to be into it and like me being into it.

And I turned to her and I said, you know, I don't think that you're gonna enjoy this if you're not a millennial because it's such of its time. You know, like, it is the best Disney channel movie. Like it's so good. And it's one of the top five highest grossing, or something like, for its time budget.

Is this a common opinion? Is this a majority opinion about Brink? If you look at articles of people ranking the Disney channel original movies, this is usually usually it's in the top 10 if it's not number one. Five.

Yeah. I would say the things that get in the way is like high school musical was a general original movie. Yeah. So like that'll get in the way, but it's got your 100% right.

That if a millennial is doing the list, Brink will probably take the number one spot. And if the next generation down is Brink will be like two or three and high school musical will be number one. But it is also like the second one. Like it's where the first one was.

Isn't it? I'll check real quick. It was two, but I never looked it up. And she said something last night while we were watching it, but I was paying too much attention to what was happening on the screen.

Yeah. I mean, this is like same era as Halloween town. Like it is very early in the day. Yeah.

How many times did I think it was like 97? Yeah. And this is 98. I know it's 98 because I did the math.

And there's sophomores in high school in 1998. I was a sophomore in high school in 1998. So that's what I'm saying. Like if you're not a millennial, you might not like really feel the nostalgic.

So it was the third one when they officially started calling them Disney channel original movies. Before this was under wraps, which was a mummy movie and something called You Lucky Dog. When we do under wraps. And then Halloween town was right after it.

So that was the one immediately for Halloween town. OK. Yeah. So there's summer movie or they're back to school movie because the first day of it is the first day of school, or like maybe the first day of it is the day before.

Yeah. It's the last day of summer released August 29th. So yeah, they were definitely going for that summer first day of school vibe when they made it. Amazing spot.

It's crazy because you look at it like Labor Day weekend. Like for the first couple of years, Disney Channel was very specific on like, oh, we're going to do three movies and we're going to release them on like these key weekends or whatever. And then you get to a certain point where there's just like a movie a month. We're just shitting them out now.

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