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EPISODE · May 21, 2026 · 35 MIN

CTO Cube | Coding Got Easier. Engineering Didn't.

from Tech Teams Today · host Revelo

Every engineering leader is being told AI changed everything. But what actually changed?Josh Anderson sits down with Josh Holat, CTO of Cube, to draw a line between two things that have quietly gotten conflated: coding and engineering. The tools moved fast. The job didn't. Code review is the new bottleneck. Tests still have to pass. Your name is still on the commit, even when an LLM wrote half of it.They get into AI slop in pull requests, why "senior software engineer" became something not to put in a cover letter, how Cube interviews now that take-homes are dead, the shift to smaller teams and what's replacing agile, token budgets without theater, and the JSON test harness that lets a 20-person FP&A engineering team ship with confidence in a domain where rounding errors end careers.About Our Guest:Josh Holat is the CTO of Cube, a spreadsheet-native FP&A platform used by finance teams to plan, model, and report without leaving Excel or Google Sheets. He's been building and scaling engineering teams for over 15 years, including a prior co-founder role that ended in acquisition. At Cube, he leads engineering, architecture, and the company's AI strategy, with a particular focus on shipping reliable systems in a domain (finance) where being wrong has hard, immediate consequences.About Tech Teams Today:Tech Teams Today is a podcast by Revelo where we sit down with engineering leaders to talk about how they build, scale, and lead high-performing tech teams. Real conversations. No fluff.Subscribe and never miss an episode:- YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@revelohq⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠- Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3ymzd0MC1YjnFy7hKzzR9x?si=51f3989aa4bc4308⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠- Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tech-teams-today/id1641545336⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect with us:- Revelo: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.revelo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠- Josh Anderson (Field CTO): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuadavidanderson/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠- Revelo on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/revelohq/⁠

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