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EPISODE · Jul 16, 2026 · 32 MIN

Cullen Roche - Your Perfect Portfolio: Stop Chasing Returns and Start Building Better Portfolios

from Standard Deviations with Dr. Daniel Crosby · host Cullen Roche, Dr. Daniel Crosby

Tune in to hear: Why does Cullen argue in his new book that there is no perfect portfolio and argues that we should be worrying more about process? How do we begin to move our clientele from this search for a silver bullet to start thinking about their portfolios in a more systematic, bespoke way? Why does Cullen believe that advisors should match assets to future liabilities rather than just chasing returns? From a behavioral perspective, why is this shift hard for investors to internalize at times? Do most “diversified portfolios” fail Cullen’s test of diversification? If a listener adopted Cullen’s investing framework, what would they likely do differently during a period of market stress compared to an average investor? Links Cullen Roche on Twitter Cullen Roche on LinkedIn Your Perfect Portfolio Discipline Funds Connect with Us Meet Dr. Daniel Crosby Check Out All of Orion’s Podcasts Power Your Growth with Orion Disclosures: These show notes may contain links to third-party websites. Any links to such third-party websites are provided solely as a convenience to you and not as an endorsement by Orion of the content on such third-party websites, or any affiliation or association with its operators. Orion is not responsible for the content of linked third-party websites, including, without limitation, any link contained in a linked website, or any changes or updates to a linked website, and do not make any representations regarding the information, services, products or accuracy of any material contained on such third-party websites. Compliance Code: 2000-U-26188

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This week on Standard Deviations with Dr. Daniel Crosby, Dr. Crosby is joined by Cullen Roche. Cullen Roche is the Founder and Chief Investment Officer at Discipline Funds, a financial planning–driven ETF firm focused on aligning investment portfolios with real-world time horizons rather than market predictions. He is the author of Understanding the Modern Monetary System, Pragmatic Capitalism and Your Perfect Portfolio. For more than two decades, his research and writing have helped shape the discussion around macroeconomics and portfolio construction, making him a leading voice in practical, evidence-based investing.

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