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EPISODE · May 26, 2026 · 1H 2M

Cultural Catalysts: The Leaders of the Future

from Systems of Scale · host Ian Gatzke

In this episode of The Expert Method, Ian Gatzke sits down with Jaclyn Orent, co-founder and systems architect of the Cultural Catalyst Network, for a conversation about leadership, identity, consciousness, and what it means to build for the future.Jaclyn argues that the leaders of the next era will not simply be people who build companies. They will be cultural catalysts — people who redefine normal by creating new ways of leading, serving, collaborating, and building systems that contribute to life instead of extracting from it.The conversation explores why business needs to shift from self-serving goals to whole-serving impact, how identity shapes behavior, why self-leadership is foundational during periods of disruption, and why sustained change is impossible to do alone. Jaclyn also breaks down ideas from intentional change theory, the science of scaling, consciousness research, emotional regulation, and collective shared vision.This is a conversation about the kind of leadership the future may require — not just more strategy, more growth, or more information, but a deeper shift in how we lead ourselves, build with others, and serve the whole.===============Jaclyn’s Links:- Website: https://www.culturalcatalysts.net/- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaclynorent- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kova.orent/===============Download the Program Execution System Toolkit:https://implementgpts.com/pestoolkit===============- My LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-gatzke/- Schedule Free Blueprinting Call: https://api.leadconnectorhq.com/widget/bookings/implement-ai-blueprinting===============Highlights:0:00 Episode Highlight0:24 A New Cultural Standard1:42 What It Means to Redefine Normal4:40 From Self-Serving to Whole-Serving7:05 Business as a Vehicle for Service9:25 Scale Impact, Not Just Revenue13:45 Vision Changes Physiology18:33 Self-Leadership Comes First21:00 Change Is Impossible Alone25:28 Why Identity Shapes Behavior27:40 Intentional Change Theory32:26 Operate From Wholeness36:55 Reality Is the Teacher42:20 Use Timeline as a Tool47:46 Elevate Your Consciousness54:30 Become a Cultural Catalyst59:06 The Time Is Now1:01:20 Episode Takeaway

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