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Aug 14, 2019 1 hr 26 min

Cursed Objects

from Supernatural Hour Hosted by Brett Smith

Annabelle, the Santaquin Skull, haunted chairs and more. Tim, Mike and Castle talk cursed and haunted objects.

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The dead of night as people sleep. That's when the spirits creep as the belt holes three dark things take power We like to call it the supernatural Hour ladies and gentlemen it is time for the show that changes names more More time Apparently that's gross. Um apparently we changed our name more times a coca-cola changes recipes even though we won't change our name once Well, how many times is coca-cola changes their recipes? Probably once I have no coke and then they went back to classic.

Well, that would be the same as time coke change their SB which be once so not more than our one name chains that we did like over a year ago apparently is causing people stress And they're problematic So they're talking about the whole wisps as a paranormal team versus events paranormal as a business I don't know versus supernatural hour as the maybe we can ask if he if he listens to the show if we can have Justin Boom and give us an email and explain why the name of our show gives him stress We're not picking my just never just confused. I don't know if you listen to the show How do I we're sorry to stress you out? We are here with a show Which is the reason we be here because driving a show I am your host castle to my left my left-handed guy would be Tim aka beaker. What's happening?

So, you know like you point out. Yeah, I'm on your left for I'm gonna write no one really knows That's really care. I don't think there's a visual. It's just like the play-by-play guys It's really moving left to cry across your screen and to my right or maybe he's on my left or maybe sitting behind me Nobody knows we have Mike Bigstack Puma.

Yes, I'm third. Actually in the restroom. Yes. Why that's important I'm not even sure what that means, but by damn you're I know it's from Bill and Ted Don't Ted that's why it's Keanu Reeves man.

I think it's a lawyer thing if you're an Esquire Anyway, we are going to talk tonight about cursed objects But before we do I do we have any items of business We're kind of in the middle of summer and we're all doing some many things which is why we're late with the show and so I don't know How much business we actually have we have shirts for sale? Yes, my shirts Yes, go to advanced parenoral.com There's a merchandise tab right there on the front page You can click on that and we'll take you to where you can buy either advanced parenoral or super natural hour gear I know I've got my shirts in the mail and they are freaking awesome if you go to our Facebook page You can see peaches there sporting her a supernatural hour shirt What we take was a tank. Yes, we were with we're playing Luigi's Mansion at Dave and Buster's and she took the time to Post a photo of her shirt. There will be some photos of us wearing our shirts in Disneyland as I'm sure you guys will be posting pictures of you Wearing a shirt around Vegas.

I got my know how to make us Terry actually got her shirt this week So we're taking it with us. How's that? They're really cool shirts. They're really comfortable I really like the color on mine too.

It's like a Heather blue. I actually you wore your door to my house And that blue looks really good. They're really comfortable. I'm not seeing yours So we do need more colors though.

Terry really wants to get a purple one purple for the purple shirt But it's not on the color wheel. I'm a be able to adjust that funny. Did you fix the tapestry thing yet? I did I think the reason why I can't do purples because part of logos purple I would blend in and look weird.

Yeah, but the green and the paper and the super the wording would just pop Except the blending in part, but hey, so awesome just so people are aware the supernatural hour is part of the radio Ronin Network Found at radio Ronin.com where you can find other awesome shows such as radio Ronin life on the rocks Please great sky to new music and the park hoppers. You forgot bacon cell and bacon cell. Love you Joel Alright, so let's get on tonight. We are gonna talk about cursed objects We'd like to give a shout out to our folks at life on the rocks who didn't have some of our cursed objects And we realize that there is a huge unpat the wealth of knowledge when it comes to cursed objects So what we've done tonight is each one of us has picked a cursed object Some you may be familiar with from past shows some may be completely new to our audience members Some are gonna be very well known items some are gonna be obscure stories that you have never heard before About various cursed objects and the fun thing about this particular show is as I mentioned it's a huge untapped well of information Which means that there will be future cursed objects shows with different cursed objects We're not gonna do them back to back to back But just plan on there being future shows down the road between some of our other shows because as we started doing research We found there were bajillions of them So let's get started with our cursed objects for the night Mike what do you got for us?

All right, we'll start off with no some of these were ones If you do listen to life on the rocks, they did cover some of these as well with theirs But I figured we could probably go a little bit more depth than and detailed and then what they were able to so the first one is the Busby stup chair or a K the chair of death Popularly known as Busby stup chair this wooden figure wooden piece of furniture Is cursed by the spirit of Thomas Busby now Thomas Busby was you'd call him an alcoholic He enjoyed a drink or two or a lot, but he could often be found at his favorite bar there in in England in The town of Kirby in whiskey, England anyway, he wasn't really a terrifying character He was a petty thief he had a really quick temper though and this incident happened in 1702 There was a counterfeiter named Daniel a tea that moved to the small town there where he could conduct his illicit trade He was actually a counterfeiter and he had a daughter named Elizabeth who Thomas fell in love with and actually ended up marrying and Busby And oddy became business partners in this counterfeit trade so the story goes one evening Busby found oddy sitting in his chair at the local pub and Busby was like this is my chair the two argued oddy left Busby still fuming traveled to the house and bludgeoned oddy to death with one of the counterfeiting hammers another account Said that busby would actually strangle them to death But more of them seem to go with the the bludgeoning and when the law came for him You know they came and found him sitting in his favorite chair at that local inn at that pub which would later This chair would be named after him before the execution busby was granted a final request And that was to have a meal and a drink at his favorite local pub sitting in his favorite chair So upon finishing his meal he stood and proclaimed may sudden death come to anyone who dares sit on my chair Although this curse was respected at the time that at first time told the memory of people the new owners soon put the chair back out Leading to the death of its first victim Since then the chairs claimed many lives of those who dared to sit in it After his execution the chair remained in the pub and people were kind of a dare to sit in it It was kind of those things like I dare you sit like no way to do it. Hey, my dirty sit in the chair So in 1894 so that's 1702 this happened in 1894 a chimney sweepers sat in it and was found dead the following morning hanging from a pole The chair then remained in busby's favorite pub for centuries and became a game of dare like I said for patrons in the pub Bring World War II though airmen were stationed at a nearby base and they would come to the pub and eat and not knowing the story of the chair They would sit down and enjoy their meal and patrons of the pub though did notice whoever sat in the chair never returned from their next mission Flashing forward to the year 1967 to royal Air Force pilots Decided to sit in the in the chair and then crash their truck into a tree shortly after they left the pub Killing both of them in your 1970 few years later a person decided to test the tails of the chair to concede in it Only to die later that afternoon by falling into a hole where he was working a year later a roofer sat in the chair and died in the died after He fell off a roof that he was working on that day It actually had collapsed beneath him another tail of the chair is when a cleaning lady from the pub accidentally tripped over the chair And landed kind of on it and she soon died from a brain tumor The list of these tales goes on and on what the pub owner finally was forced to move the chair down into the basement So nobody would sit on it the basement was thought be safe place However, the pub owners soon found out that it wasn't it wasn't safe down there when the chair claimed yet another victim Delivery man was storing packages in the storage room one day and decided to take a rest on the seat and he crashed in the car Cracked by the car crash later that day So the list of a desk continued until the pub's landlord became concerned about it and in 1978 He donated it to the thirst commuseum on one condition that they would hang it from the ceiling so no one could sit on it again And it's still there today it hangs about five feet from the ceiling so nobody can actually sit in it Challenge accepted so Tim would you sit on the chair if I dare you no oh, I don't know It's a possibility Maybe if I had like you know all of my crystals on me rub it down a cell at night beforehand I can't see Tim looking like he had dressed out in Scott John's closet in the dark festival of crystals. I think just I'm just chair I think just the fact that like the brochie No, I think just the fact of how old the chair is I think with my weight I'd be afraid to sit on it I'm not exactly what you would call it a skinny young guy Mike is not a petite You know what's interesting about that is there's so many different angles I can think of why that chair to be so problematic Curses are real and they are fueled by intent Curse though that kills that many people I find that to be interesting and I'd be curious to seek How accurate that really is if it's just happenstance. I mean I look at the war once like everybody who's the soldier who's the Kinda chair goes to war doesn't come back.

Well, you're going to war There's pretty good chance that you might not become a bad Well, it said a lot of chairs in that pub that didn't come back and that's my point You know the part of it is somebody who's murdered in the chair, you know Is that gonna bring an attachment that's a negative attachment that causes a problem? I just see a lot of different possible avenues of how that chair could be as problematic as it is So kind of interesting I think a lot of these that seems just a lot of the curse objects that I've studied through these A lot of them are kind of in that that range of like well is could all be coincidences I mean it's chairs 200 years old a lot of people who would have sat in the chair over 200 years is gonna die now One thing that was kind of wise though is when it comes to curse objects the kind of knee-jerk reaction is burn up To destroy it and that's usually not the best method to deal with those things If you've got a say a spirit attachment especially a negative entity spirit attachment on an object like that you burn it you are basically Releasing that spirit from that object and you're really pissing it off and there's nothing to stop it from attaching to another object This is favorite chair that could be pissed if you burned it once they interestingly enough and this there's an object That is not my list of objects talk about them to talk about right now, but right now remind me that so we were To residential investigation. I believe this is a north Utah County member properly and I was in there with Caden I can't remember if Tim was there or not As earth caden and some others and when we went to a nursery kind of playroom You know is an older couple and their grandkids come over and play not a toy room And when we walked in this toy room they had a pink care bear sitting on top of the shelf and this care bear Like drew my attention immediately there was something up with that care bear I got caught by the care bears stare I got and I gave the care bear the care bear stare as kind of one of the first cursed objects I really picked up on and when I picked up on it Kade and noticed it and as we started kind of trying to cleanse it the spirit There's not actually jump to another object jump to something that had like a plastic bag on it An interesting thing is that you could hear the plastic move when it jumped like nothing touched the plastic You heard it Russell and what soon is it Russell King goes? Oh my gosh, it jumped that plastic And like I said it kind of shocked me because I heard it But the fact of the matter is if you destroy these objects a lot of times you break that attachment and it can just as easily Attached to something else or someone else.

What's that? What's that? Or you like if I go and burn a haunted cursed object You may be in the detachment you're open up a whole world hurt for yourself Because I mean like curses if it was a curse that was intentionally put on the item Then you muck with that you're basically inviting that entity or whatever into your life And that's something you want to do well, not all you're inviting it in but you've pissed it off and you're inviting it in So it's kind of a double whammy. All right next item.

What do you got for a stem? So I chose to go with some of the more popular items that people are kind of already aware of but The are still scary so first one I'm gonna talk about is the Dibic box Now there's several Dibic boxes out there. I know that their friend Jimmy Lendarling has one and The more popular one Actually spawned or was the inspiration for a movie called the possession This one was originally owned by a man named Kevin Manus who put it up on eBay back in 2001 I think it was on there for about two years before he finally sold it to someone named Losef Nitsky Who at the time he was a student in Missouri? I believe he had it for a total of like eight months before he sold it to somebody Jason Hacksen who was the director of the Museum of osteopathic medicine and then eventually I end up in the hands of Zach Bagan's from just adventures so Just kind of give everybody if you don't know what a Dibic or Dibic box is a Dibic is actually a Jewish Injucismatology it's a malicious spirit that is believed to be the lost soul of a dead person Instead of going to heaven the soul becomes trapped in an object and will remain there until someone helps release the spirit The word did we actually comes from an ancient Hebrew word meaning to cling?

So the original owner like I said was like Kevin Manus. She originally bought the box from an estate cell for a woman who was really from Poland she had actually died at the age of 103 The granddaughter of this woman was very insistent that Kevin take the box back after her grandma passed away He offered you a back door because he figured it had some sort of sentimental value She's very insistent made him take it back He said basically the grandmother just kept it the box dashed away and wouldn't let anyone open it or neared I saw he ended up taking the item when he took it home or he took it to his furniture We're finishing shop and I put it in the basement. I guess one day while he was out grabbing lunch He got a call from one of his employees that said there was someone in the shop that was swearing and smashing things I guess he returned back to the shop and found that the lights in the basement were broken and the room smelled really strong of cat urine I guess the employee that called it in left and never came back. He was done at that point Like he because there was a furniture refinishing shop.

I guess he decided he was gonna try to refinish this object Really bad idea. Yeah, but I guess he decided not to finish it He just cleaned instead he was getting he was gonna give to his mom as a birthday gift And I guess she had stopped by one day to go to lunch and that's when he was gonna give her the box as well They're at lunch he left Just for a second make a phone call when one of the employees came running up to him and said there's something wrong with his mom So he ran to his mom and found her sitting in a chair Expressionless and she was crying and totally unresponsive. They rushed to the hospital and turned out she had a stroke and lost the ability to speak for a little while I guess during that time she could only speak using a spellboard and she would point to letters and spell the words When asked when he asked her how she was doing she spelled out no gift When he said he'd given her gift. She emphasized hate gift So basically she was using her little spellboard to say basically that the big box is what the No, no, no, it's just like I would assume just like a little kids So I guess give him a box with sister and she kept it for a week and then ended up giving it back I tried to give his brother his brother's wife.

I think it's for three days and give it back to him The brothers said it's not like Jasmine flowers and the wife said it's not a cat urine I guess he gives his girlfriend a one point And she ended up asking him to sell it. I saw the two middle-aged couple and three days later found the box sitting in front of his shop Within us saying this had this has a bad darkness I guess he took it home on the box of his house He would have nightmares and when she was walking with a good friend and when he looked at the friends I saw something people looking back the friend turned into a gruesome demonic hag that proceeded to beat him He'd wake up and he never bruises and marks all over his body There was all sorts of things that just going on like he was being pretty much tortured while this box was on his house So I guess you know deciding to sell it on eBay Like I said it was on eBay for two years. He finally sold it to Lose of Netsky who put it back on sale on eBay after eight months He said well he had possession of the box him and his roommates suffered from Samya and illness Whenever they were around at the dippu box. I guess he turned around and sold it to Jason Hacksdon for $280 Apparently this guy had heard about it from one of the students who was also a roommate of Netsky Jason Hacksdon when he got the dippu box He said it actually he experienced paranormal activity while he was around the box.

He said it also Had an anti-aging effect on him He said the box gave him welts and hives when he first had the box and even experienced coughing up blood and choking He said touching it almost put it into a liquid state. He relates that when he had the box he'd seen strange lights and shadows He ended up getting help from Scientist paranormal experts at Cabalas and wiccans and they ended up putting the box in a more manageable state so he could keep it He believes the force contained in the cabinet is neutral It plays off if it comes in contact with it The ultimate goal is to understand the reveal truth and that it was seeking the right owner to help it So he thinks that the spirit attached is just waiting for the right person to come along and and help him figure out what he needs to do or What he's trying to accomplish? So I guess he ended up taking the box He put it in a wood arc lined with 24-carat gold and stashed it in a den to give it some dude After that he ended up just putting in a military grade shock proof container and he buried it somewhere And wouldn't tell anybody where it was I guess eventually at some point Zach Bagnons found out about it He ended up buying the box and he currently has it in his collection at his haunted museum in Las Vegas It is not available to the general public But apparently if you want to see it you have to sign a waiver Stating that if anything happens to you at the time you're looking at it or shortly after that they are not liable for anything that happens You know my favorite part about that story is the huh this box is cursed It's causing all kinds of problems. I should sell this to an unsuspecting straight-drawn eBay Well, that's after he tried to give it to his mom his sister his brother his brother's wife his girlfriend You know he tried to give it away to everybody and eventually sold it and that dude and like I said He had eight months before he sold it.

So this is the original Divic box But I know that like you said our friend Jimmy Lindarling has it has one this is more famous This is covered with wax though. It's sealed with wax was this original and not sealed with wax Well, there's more than just this is a Divic box, right? This is just the more popular one because it won it was one that was like I said it was the inspiration for the movie of the possession right and Even more so that makes there something that makes it more famous is the fact that Zeg big and some customers owns it currently He owns all sorts of things He just bought the house that Sharon Tate was from the Charlie Man's house Yeah, he did yeah dig box. I was just kind of a generic term There's actually way to make him it's Jimmy Lindarling went through the process with us on how you make it It's pretty insane.

You've got a really That's not worth it don't play with the kids to make it correctly But yeah, basically like I said Divic is basically a malicious spirit in the Jewish mythology. So it's it's not something to mess with All right, so let's talk about Robert the haunted doll So Robert the hundred dollars 111 years old and he currently resides at East Fort Martello Museum in Key West Florida And the Robert the doll was owned by Gene Otto prior to going to the museum He was a gift who was bought by James grandfather in Germany. It was thought that the doll was Like a window display if you actually see the doll museum is one kind of a sailor suit that they believed to be one of Gene Otto's outfits from when he was a child So the doll is kind of strange looking. It's a human male child in a sailor suit It's got kind of beady black eyes and it's human but kind of has almost an a-pluck appearance to it And it's been said that people who Bad enough Otto actually see the dolls physical features change like the spatial expressions change now when gene got this doll People in his family described he had a close unhealthy relationship with the doll so the minute he got the doll He would talk to the doll like it was another person.

He referred to the doll in the first person And in the home they started to have mishaps, you know Stoverburner type thing would be left on and he would blame the doll. He'd say oh, that's a that's Robert doll You know when this ship happened in the house. It was Robert salt Robert had done it Now what's kind of creepy with Robert the doll is as gene got older even into adulthood. He took it all with him everywhere How was gene when he obtained this?

I don't know if I have that exact information. He was a child. It was given to him by his grandfather Okay, so I was just curious if like mental illness might have been something. He just went away.

It's not about dating Rather sit here and talk to it all well I mean like you know someone that obviously might have some sort of mental illness would blame things on you know inanimate objects It's not unheard of right. However, let me go further to the story that might change your mind a little bit Tim take us there Um, so as he went to adulthood, he would take the adult with him everywhere and still speak with it like it was You know a living person treat like it was a living person um And as he got older School children who go by jeans house said that they would see that all sometimes looking at them out of the window Uh, it would appear it would disappear. I got to the point where school children would actually avoid going by uh, gene auto's house Um It was reported that when gene auto got so old that he did a caretaker Um that the caretaker in here footsteps and giggling in the house when there's nobody else in the house Um, and that's when they said that when the doll was in the room and people were speaking ill of gene The people lost the doll's facial expressions would actually change Um As reported the doll would often move around the house on its own um with no explanation um Upon gene's death that all was actually given to the uh fort East Martelman Museum in qs florida Now the museum says they received one to three letters a day for the doll Um they say many of the letters are actually from people who are seeking apology from the doll They say they disrespected it when they were at the museum and when they did that misshapen enter their lives car accidents About rovers forgiveness financial ruin and they all have felt that it was because they made fun of the doll disrespected the doll Uh that they were somehow cursed and so they are sending letters To the museum on behalf of the doll to basically seek forgiveness for whatever offense they caused to try and set their life right Um, does the museum curator actually read the letters to the doll? Uh, the museum curator does lead the read the letters to the doll Um and they take the doll out.

I want to say yearly to clean it Uh, but yeah, they read the letters people also send treats and other things to the dolls The museum staff obviously does not eat the treats because they don't know where they're from or what's in them Uh, they even have reported that people have left the joints aka hippie grass Uh, maybe grass for hippie lettuce, uh for rubber the doll Um, plus you don't want to eat a stuff and make him mad I mean look what happened with the the stup chair you sitting in his chair gets mad Right, don't eat rubber snacks Well, I think the thing for rubber the doll that I find most interesting Is just the fact that he treats it like there's like it's a person and just you know, mishaps happening on the house and him blaming the doll and you know, then going into adulthood and people hearing laughter and The doll moving on its own, uh things of that nature. So tim with your pinion or rubber the doll I want to see this doll. I don't want to taunt it, but I just kind of it's more of like kind of like we did with pulpo I want to like me to put a k-tunarian Tim would you like to hold it on your lap while you sit in the death chair? No Coven's on it yet.

Let me put my cell on my suit here. We know the rachi cell I'm gonna see this lip rachi cell on my suit I don't know like I would be curious to see it See it for myself. Just like I said, I want to poke fun at it. I bring you for that That I don't hunt I don't investigate haunted objects without you nearby I let you get in trouble and then I fix the problem afterwards I I would love to see the doll in person and actually kind of see what kind of vibe I get from him I'm not even have you got a picture I can look at it and I can probably tell you if there's any energy coming off of it You know what I will find you a picture while Mike goes into our next object question I have about Robert though Is so it started off as this innocent doll with a child Right, so was it did it come with a negative attachment or or a a negative entity or did it happen because he gave it so much attention that a spirit just said hey that doll's getting all this attention I'm just gonna inhabit this doll and then I get to be the one to get any attention Does it make sense?

Yeah, and you know that's actually a really good question because it literally could be either or You know if you do have so much attention and the conditions are right he could draw in a spirit that could inhabit the doll He could draw in the spirit that's were permission to inhabit the doll But she's permitted or there could have been something that else begin with one of the brought to him Really there's it's hard to tell short of well and to kind of go back to what I was saying earlier He could have been like autistic or something like that and had like What kind of functioning kind of yeah like we could be because we've worked on a case before that we're the family Have son that was autistic and we were pretty sure that Wow, he's looking at a picture of the doll right? Sorry, you didn't know this thing has definitely got some bad jujuju with it. I don't like this at all Yeah, I just showed him a bunch of pictures of it all that's no that's no that's He's turned the phone away from him and he won't look at it. Yeah, no, that's definitely all kinds of no that's the No, I take that back.

I would take the entire team with us to investigate that doll Um, no, that's I don't like the energy coming off of those photos It's definitely got something negative with it Um as far as whether or not it was there when he acquired the doll Uh that I don't know like I said it could be somewhere he could have been like high functioning autistic and At first he was just like, yeah, this is the doll's fault And he kind of somehow attracted something to him or it could come with the attachment already I don't know. I'm not gonna look too much into right now Just because I just get really bad vibes just looking at that that photo You know, I want to say I watched a documentary once a pen room documentary where they actually set time laps cameras on that doll I think it doesn't even look that scary either It it's kind of like Annabelle in that it's not scary, but it's terrifying Yeah, um, I don't know if I would want to be in a room alone with that thing But the time lapse camera thing if I remember right at a time max camera and they did get some movement from the doll Uh just having the camera set up on it. It's the same doll Um, and I'm 98% sure that it is the same doll that didn't move inside the case. All right, Mike.

What do you got for us? All right, next up we're gonna talk about uh, murals plantation This is another one that's actually quite popular if you've ever vacationed down in Louisiana Or if you're a fan of the tv show ghost adventures on the travel channel, then you're probably well aware of murals plantation And the cursed mirror that's inside its home there It's been deemed one of the most haunted homes in the united states and is the most haunted one of the most haunted bed and breakfast around the world Tim is still really affected by this. Do you still have that open on your phone like close the picture all like just Close the window. It's like get it off your phone all the other.

I don't like the energy. It's it's closed. Okay, actually I'm gonna come out and say this but I can actually feel the energy doing. I don't like it.

Yeah, it's hey Annika go grab that cello night over there What's that? Tim had to make fun of our gnotto. Not roberts pissed. I don't know if it works that way Uh, cuz how is that the Tim?

Tim's gonna hold the cell knife a little bit. See if he can watch out some some youtube joo joo Yeah, that feels better. All right. I'm gonna continue then with sorry.

No, you're good. You're good Um, so the plantation itself is now bed and breakfast but the plantation itself dates back to 1796 and was ironically built on a native american burial ground Which is obviously one of the worst places to ever build a home. So if you have a chance to don't Don't throw drum on a thing in the D-barrow. Yeah, that just kind of never seems like it works out well, right?

So it's rumored that 10 murders have occurred at the rural plantation and then there's paranormal activity that occurs on a daily basis for Guests that stay at the bed and breakfast there. It's in frances, philoisiana If you're gonna take a trip down there, definitely give it a shot a stop by there So the tale of the curse mirror is one of the most famous tales there According to legend the former owner of the house sarah woodruff and her two daughters were poisoned by a slave named colby named cloey And are actually trapped inside the mirror. So if you remember back several episodes ago lrich was talking about funeral customs They talked about covering all the mirrors in the house because they would lay the person out in the home for like a public viewing And so they would it was just tradition that they would cover all of the mirrors in the house so that the spirits don't get lost or get trapped there So with a husband missed one mirror in the house and it said that the spirits of sarah and her children actually got trapped there Guests at the plantation have reported seeing figures lurking in the mirror and child-sized handprints on the glass Either way for those who are wondering all that dinging in the noise are there to get in here. It's just going that's a evil black cat Um, but yeah, so they see these uh these mirror in this mirror You know you see that the mom is see handprints up here and I actually have a co-worker that That I was actually talking to about this she's from uh, louisiana and she said that her cousin had gone there And while they didn't see anything while they were looking in the mirror her cousin did take some pictures of the mirror And in the pictures it knows they were looking at him later There was a little girl sitting on the bottom step of the stairways and then in another picture, you know in the series There she was actually walking up the stairs, but there were no children there at the at the ben breakfast at the time So definitely someone's kind of creepy now one thing that I was a little confused on with it is some of the reports said that the mirror was added In 1980 to the home and placed in one of the main hallways, so that didn't make sense to me and then Talking to uh to my co-worker sarah about this She said that when they were there that they had told her that they'd actually changed out the glass several times trying to fix the problem and uh, but yet every time they changed the glass it's still the same frame and and the handprints and the spirits still appear in the mirror so Interesting, you know, there's actually when I was going through some of the cursed objects and items There are a lot of stories involving mirrors.

Uh, and I know we've talked about mirrors before I think we did almost an entire episode on mirrors Uh, two, yeah, I say believe but mirrors can hold paranormal energy and conserve its portals So it doesn't surprise me that the mirror there would be an issue. I'd be curious to see how the How it ties in with the 1980 thing versus the other thing if there is a tie in but uh, like you said the original frame But I'd be curious to that's one of my two besties and see what the what the deal is see it firsthand I mean the frame can be haunted. You don't necessarily have to have the whole thing on to like right All right, you know, we dealt with some creepy mirrors before some cursed mirrors Or maybe they're not even in the mirror off the go to be there just there in the home and they just appear in the mirror I don't know what other the handprints look like they're coming from inside the mirror They do and they try to wash the mirror and try to wipe them off But they don't readily disappear with you know You can't get the windex out and make the handprints by the way. It's kind of like they're on the inside of the mirror which is interesting All right, ten what do you got for us?

So next up I have speaking uh, we've already kind of mentioned this one When you're talking about rubber the doll Yeah, um You want to sell my back? No, I'm good. Uh, it's amazing. So this one is another another doll Uh, again, it's it's a more popular story that most of you already know, but I'm just gonna kind of go over it again real quick here This is the anabel doll Um This came about in uh, so those of you don't if you don't know or have a head of anabelle by now here living in What world have you been in?

Um, but yeah anabelle, uh, basically it's just a regular anabelle very harmless looking very friendly looking It's just a friendly and fun looking playful doll I think the actual real anabelle in my opinion is scarier than the movie anabelle doll because it's uh You don't think the real anabelle's got? No way Well, here's the person that I'll scare the crap out of me If you go off and look if you're going off and look together the movie doll looks really creepy compared to the original the real doll But as far as like knowing, you know, what happened with it all, uh, it's it makes it creepier It's the innocence look the innocent looking feet aspect of the animal anabelle doll that really makes it creepy The movie one is almost too creepy to the point where it's like, okay, that's your creepy doll Like if they made it look less creepy it would have been creepier to looking if that makes sense So There was a student nurse named Donna who actually received this doll from her mom in 1970 as a gift Um, I believe it was just kind of like, you know, congratulations on becoming a nurse or whatever Uh, they started she started noticing, uh, strange behavior, uh, with the doll as well as her roommate Angie They both kind of saw certain things happening that just didn't seem normal So they ended up taking the doll to a medium Who said that the doll was possessed by the spirit of a seven-year-old girl named Annabelle Higgins Apparently the little girl had been found dead in the field that Donna's apartment complex was built on and her restless spirit Just wanted somewhere to live So first on an Angie, they gave the spirit permission to reside with anabelle within anabelle the doll Uh, she was very innocent after she was just an innocent child so they figured, you know, nothing could go wrong Um But apparently Annabelle after that said she started to attack their friend Lou And the roommates actually contacted the Warrens who discovered the doll was actually being manipulated by a demon who desired Donna's soul I guess after they learned the horrifying truth about the demon's intentions the Warrens had someone to praise to perform exorcism Um After the fact Ed and Lorraine once they took the doll I mean, there's this article kind of sketch over some stuff but I know that there was um One point in time when they came home from a school or work, whatever and if you don't know what to write it again It's looking up. It's basically a doll. It's full of stuffing and They came home one day to the doll In the kneeling like a praying position Like it was praying to somebody or something Uh, and they tried to recreate this with the doll and never could it's not like it's not a doll that you can propose or anything like that It's just like it's just full of stuffing right just follow it's a lovey They would they would find it in that kneeling position.

They would find it they'd find it sitting upright They would often find it in places where they didn't leave it like they left it or locked it up in one of the bedrooms They'd come home and it'd be sitting out in the living room I said it did attack Andy's boyfriend Lou were actually left like cuts onto the body and So with the Warrens, I guess they came and handled the whole thing they were taking the doll home And while they were driving home, they would have constant problems with the car breaking down The breaks would stop working And I guess when they got home the the doll started displaying supernatural signs once again I guess I tried to do another exorcism in which it didn't work They decided to put the doll into their occult museum and place it in the glass case If you see the case, it's more like it has like a glass door on it But it's more of like a wooden case It does have a sign on there that says absolutely like no touching actually the exact verbiage is positively do not Remove or something to that effect. Yeah, so I know that there's been rumors Reports of people supposedly Wanting to touch the doll. I don't know if they actually touched it, but they're like taunt Annabelle and like one guy actually got a motorcycle accident on the way home And I don't know if he died or if he was hospitalized But there's other stories like I've heard of that where someone's like taunted the Annabelle doll And they've gotten an accident or bad things have happened to him after the fact and I know more recently I haven't actually seen this and I was actually trying to find the video of it But I know I believe was on an episode of Ghost Adventures where zakbagan's actually touched Annabelle And he did the whole thing. I was I don't know what came over me.

I just I felt compelled to touch the doll even after he was I thought it was really brief like a brush thing. It was really Subtle if he did actually touch it and it did say he did kind of say he did do an umpropis But he did kind of reach out and it was just like I'll say like a little bit of a brush But he did touch it and he was told not to do it. He did it anyway Yeah, I think he's much less for ratings, but um, yeah, this doll is like said It's it looks very innocent, but just knowing kind of like the hell that it put these two nurses through Uh, it just kind of gives you a whole different aspect or look on dolls in general You know and I would encourage anybody who's really interested in the whole animal story If you go to warms.net, which is the warms web page. I assume it's still up Um, they've got the whole story there and it has all the stuff that this doll did If I recall this is purely of my memories that could be wrong Uh, I know at one point they found that all the middle room There's a note written in crayon next to it that they couldn't account for and I want to say there's an instance where they came home And the doll had like a kitchen knife with it and it was moved Uh, just kind of some creepy unsettling stuff I know if I came home and I had a stuffed animal or something in my room that was moved to a different room and had like a knife by it I would be A little nervous about sleeping.

Do you want to talk about the uh, most recent News of the anabel doll or do you want to say that for a little bit later? We're gonna say it for a little bit later. Um, you know, I was actually struggling to find a story tonight and I was Running short on time so I enlisted might to find a story and as you're telling that story I remember the story you're talking about that we're looting too, which we'll talk about near the end of the episode All right, yeah, I'm not gonna go too much more in anabel because it's a more popular item that several movies are made of bird-based I mean, we've got anabel anabel the creation anabel homecoming that just came out Um, I mean there's that's all over the place The most recent one's actually the probably the creepiest one I think I've seen of it Um, I'm gonna talk about uh one of our own uh, this time around and you're gonna have to help me fill in details on this tim Because you were there, um, and that's I'm calling it the Santa Quinn skull. Oh, man.

Um, I think it was tripping Yeah, so I think I saw pictures of it too I'll show Mike if you get a picture. Let's post it to the site. Um, I'll do so this was what two three years ago? Mm two years ago because I remember I had just gotten home from Vegas dropped speeches off and drove right back down to Santa Quinn A long day so we had some people in Santa Quinn contact us.

They're having some issues in their home Uh, they were seeing like shadow figures. They were just having a lot of bad stuff going on. Do you remember all their complaints Tim? Uh, no, I'm realizing as I'm telling the story I'm totally unprepared to tell the story because I'm really dealing as clearly as I'm There was there was their daughter Um that made friends with a spirit or an imaginary friend and the imaginary friend was was trying to convince her to kill herself actually That's right.

Um, and we kind of found some times with the family tree restaurant with some portals and stuff in area Well, there'd been some of the previous owners had been into some stuff that they shouldn't have been in But it's interesting because as we were going through the house, um, I picked up immediately on this skull in a real skull No, it's plastic. Okay. Yeah, it's a plastic Halloween skull. Um, it's a hell basically Halloween prop But as we're going through the house, uh, I just picked up on the skull like immediately, uh, just kind of got tunnel vision on it Well, it's funny is like where the placement of the skull was is caden.

I had actually walked past it several times Uh, because we felt some of the activities coming from like the garage behind the house and we went out to kind of check out the garage And we had walked past it several times and you walk in the room once and you're like, yeah, that's kind of attachment Yeah, it was like a laser beam like a frickin laser on the skull and uh, we ended up moving it to the kitchen Um And as we're talking about it talked about what we're gonna do to the skull Um, the water pipes underneath the kitchen sink actually got ripped out Uh, as we're standing there. Yeah, the kitchen started to flood Yeah, the kitchen started to flood because water started gushing out from the sink because the the water lines got ripped off of their uh Of their housings basically. Um So what we ended up doing with that is we ended up removing it from the house. Uh, tim disquosed of it Um And then it ended up kind of clearing up the problem.

I realize it's not a long involve story with lots of scary stuff But it's kind of interesting that there was that focus on that one item Um, very similar to the rock that we moved from twillow, which will I know we've pulled that story But we'll come back on that one on a few trapezode. What's weird to me about is it's a halloween prop It's just a plastic skull. It's like you would think it would be like some real skull or something with like some Symmestory history is like it's just the plastic. That's what's interesting.

No, it's because in spirit, uh, human or otherwise Can attach to basically anything. I mean like care bear man. Yeah, I mean care bear then to let kind of a plastic something rather than kind of like a plastic Background, I really wish I could remember what that was. Oh, and we had uh Wands that were from a share concert that attachment stone.

Yeah, and so really an object attachment can be anything There doesn't have to be any special qualifier that has to be Super scarier. It's just like the spirit goes to hey, that looks cool. I'm gonna attach myself to that It could be a simple to christmas card to something that is elaborate as a piece of furniture. Um Or even a person wait people still send me christmas cards.

That's creepy now All right, so that was a Santa Claus going to realize I was probably the lamest of the ones that we're doing tonight. Uh, Michael, what do you know? Mike, what do you got? Worse pressures on right now.

We're talking about the haunted wedding dress. This is another one. It's quite popular Um or famous if you've done much on reading on things so uh, amma baker was the daughter of a rich iron magnet named elias baker And they lived in the town of elchuna, Pennsylvania So back in 1849 and I had the misfortune of falling in love with an iron worker at her dad's factory And uh, even went out and had a wedding dress commission. She was sure she was going to marry this this iron worker But when her dad found out he had the worker run out of town and he forbid ana to marry anyone Uh of a lower social class than what they were so heartbroken and disappointed Anna became full of hate and bitterness and because all because of what her father did and she refused to fall in love with anyone Nor to marry anyone and remained cold-hearted and bitter until her death in the year 1914 So the servants of the household would sometimes say that they'd see you know later night They'd hear noises.

They'd go and they'd see Anna wearing that same wedding dress and dancing You know with the moonlight coming in and just dancing in the middle of the night in her bedroom wearing this dress Now eventually the bakers mansion turned into a museum And that wedding dress has since been put on display in her old bedroom at the baker mansion It's often been observed moving by itself Which could be attributed to a draft or something Except for the fact that it is in an airtight glass case to kind of preserve You know old dresses all quite like that. It's a drafty airtight case don't want to air. Yeah, maybe who knows I'm not sure how that works, but it just gave me a look. That's the point There's a lot of things I don't understand and a drafty airtight case is one of those things that I just don't have the The middle capacity to really not only as possible come to terms with No, it's not possible to draft you know, it's possible.

It's a zombie gum The possible the possible castle knows all sorts of things that I just don't so Um, it's been seen moving by itself in this airtight glass case Visitors trust visitors of the museum constantly report seeing a woman's image looking at back at them when staring through the glass At Anna's wedding dress And they also report that they can see the wedding dress sway from side to side within that glass case From time to time visitors will also tell to our guys that they saw a woman dancing around in the house while wearing a wedding dress Within on the baker estate Some believe that it's Anna's spirit inhabiting the dress dancing her wedding dress that she never got to have while she was alive So you say this is more like popular kind of well-known Hons object This is actually the first time I've heard of this You know when I was doing research I was on this one as well. What are other one of our three listeners hasn't heard of this before either I'm sure 14 we're up to okay. We have 14. So I'm sure two of them haven't heard before.

You anything else worse than I did? Uh, yeah, I'm gonna do my best to tell the story correctly from memory here Um, one of my favorite oned objects that we've actually had the privilege of investigating a couple times The privilege. What do you say that? Well, that's because not a lot of people get to investigate this this object is true and again It's just another innocent looking doll Uh, this one actually came from Mexico and it's currently owned by our friend that jimmy lint darlings who I'm actually hanging out with this weekend Well, I'm in Disneyland nice whispering for the recording Super secret super secret Uh, yeah, so I mean Castle and I have both investigated the stall and she keeps it wrapped up in a cloth that has been blessed And it's supposed to keep the spirit of bay.

Um, it's attracted to Children and it's interesting because when we investigated the stall Uh, we've found a room that was away from like everybody else in the venue that we were at And we were in a hallway that no one should have been coming down As soon as castle pulls this thing out of the box and unwraps it. We hear kids playing outside the door Yeah, it was really weird. We were kind of in the middle of nowhere inside this venue And yeah, start hearing kids coming down the hall here. I'm laughing.

I mean we were like at the end of the hall like I mean you would have had a walk past about 15-20 rooms to get to the room we were at and Probably not that many but still we were at the end of the hall where there's only one way in and it was The entrance was clear at the other end of the hall Um, and it was all quiet until we pulled it out of the box and like as all of a sudden there was little kids Right out to the door playing. Um, and I remember I stood right next to the door So they couldn't come in. Uh, we kind of wrapped it back up and as soon as we wrapped it up and put it back in the box The kids left like at the exact same time. It was kind of it was kind of interesting.

Uh, so this one Is actually called purple the killer clown. Um The story or the legend behind this doll is that it's responsible for the death of five people Uh the first being a little girl. I believe the doll was given to her by Uh a friend of the family. I know her dad was kind of well to do I believe he was a cattle rancher or something of that nature and um I know once she got the doll, I believe she got very sick became very ill and eventually passed away and They when they buried her they buried her with the doll and I think a few days later Uh, the father had seen the other sister the older sister Actually playing with that same doll and they were confused because they're like well, we buried it with her So they actually to went into the exam the body to check and the doll wasn't there so they put the doll back into the calf of the casket, I believe and um Still a couple days later the the other daughter was playing with the doll again And so they knew for sure that something just wasn't right with this doll and if i'm telling the strong assuming here's this I apologize But um I know that the I don't go back listen to Jimmy episodes, but she tell it There's episode called purple the killer clown.

Um, she tells the story way better than I'm like she knows the story way better than I do But uh, I believe the older daughter ended up getting sick and passing away as well Um at this point the father kind of didn't know what to do with the doll I'm leaving called a priest into kind of come into an exorcism. Um, if I remember I think the priest can do an exorcism on the daughter before she passed away Yeah, that's right And so uh something happened. I know he got scared and he came running out of the house Well, at the same time as he's running out of the house there was a man driving a delivery truck down the street And the truck driver had looked down on the on the floor on the passenger side of the car On the truck there was the doll sitting there and he's like where the heck did this come from Uh reached down to pick up the doll and at the same time. That's when the priest came running out of the house He ran over the priest and the priest died Uh, I know the truck driver was so distraught by the fact that he killed the priest he ended up taking his own life Uh, and then I believe it was after that that the the other daughter had passed away Um, and then when it comes to the father he was out in his field at one point time I don't think there's like some argument with the neighbor over the the the cattle or whatnot Um Uh, I'm not sure where the doll ended up from there.

But remember right I think uh, they called in somebody to deal with the doll Cause I think when he's out in the field he saw the doll and I went to pick it up and that's when I got trampled Okay, um, and then sorry temp to no you're totally fine Uh, but then they called in like some kind of specialist, uh, I think he's on the wrapped in the cloth He wrapped it across and blessed it and kind of put it his private collection of stuff that nobody should be screwed around with And when he passed away, uh, jimmy laine actually bought his estate and found it in his estate along with its uh providence and Kind of the story behind where it came from. I know what she got it when she first got it um She had it sitting in her shop. She's an own own in a cold store in california And I believe they like had shut the shop down for the night. They went to go get dinner and went not Um came back and popo's out of the box sitting on a shelf somewhere in a lot of her very expensive very rare books We're all stacked up in a pile not the way that they left things Uh, I believe she went back to review the uh, serana's video and from the time that they left or the time that like You know right when the box would have been opened and after everything was moved around Uh, the video feed had cut out so they weren't actually able to see what happened static.

Yeah Um, I said we've investigated this doll. Uh, last time she was actually in town with it We were sitting in her hotel room the doll is in this box inside the closet and we can hear it banging on stuff Banging on the box inside the closet. Well, here's what's interesting with this doll in particular because I've with tamb I've invested all on two occasions. Um At first time I could feel it tapping on my I had the box my hand I could feel it tapping on the box from the inside Uh after I took the doll out and then wrapped it this by the time the children came down the hall I could feel the taps directly on my hand and I just like somebody tapping their finger on my hand essentially Uh, but in the 20 or 30 minutes that we had I caught probably six or seven different evps I know that we got the at least the one evp I got one on the video as well And I know it was in a different language and we've never been able to translate it or forget what it's actually saying Right and then there's something we could translate or not translate, but there were in english Um Now the second time that we investigated it was even a little bit more interesting That one mike was actually there.

I was there. I I was uh doing the gallery reading with chip on that one Okay. Oh, yeah, that's right. You came back later.

Uh mike was with me on that one And same thing you could feel it all moving inside the box. Thank you held the box and you feel the box shifting And it's interesting because the first time it doesn't you're thinking out of the doll just settled it was in there weird But then it just keeps moving like there's a hamster in the box or something Yeah, oh you don't hear scratches, but it feels like something's running around there like there's like a little hamster or a mouse in there And what was interesting is we took him out of the box and we had a ping pong ball sit on the table And I said pou pou if you move that ball, uh, you can have the ball Um and the ball actually rolled a short distance. I mean it didn't roll a ton but as soon as I asked it to roll the ball the ball physically rolled Castle still owes me a ping pong ball. Yeah, I gave my ping pong ball the pou pou Um Jimmy said the lap to that night and like on the way home that Did she put the ball in there and you could hear him just in there ping in the ball around inside the box If I remember I Yeah, I have no doubt that that's the case because that object is crazy like I said I could physically feel it move Many times and what's interesting is I could feel it was Mike didn't move for you a box.

Uh-huh. Um, yeah Like I said, I felt like a like a little hamster or something running around in there So it was it was something shifting there. I didn't touch the doll But it was interesting so we made sure all of the kids were gone before we did this It was after the expo was over Things were being taken down all the kids were kind of gone We even sent my daughter away across the room and yeah, we pulled it out and These kids start showing up out of it. No, where's that what the heck?

Yeah, where'd these kids come from? So yeah, hopefully killer clown. So sorry if I stold your thunder there Tim No Um ask her that when you see her this weekend ask her if she still has the baby that he says it's being global. I bet he does I'm curious I'll ask her So, um, you know what I've got a few more items But I think just for sake of time, I'm gonna tell one more Um, and then Mike if you've got one more and I think from there we'll go into our stone awake if you guys are good with that We'll save the other ones for another episode Um So this one I'm gonna talk about is actually it's in john's afsis private museum He's the one who actually investigated this case and took the item and I'm just gonna call the owner of the item kevin Um, now kevin was a 16 year old kid.

Uh, it was a really good kid came from a good home good family I did really well in school. Um, didn't have any problems with mom and dad held down a job. Um, it's just generally a good kid Uh, so kevin Found his head at a yard cell and he bought it for a dollar now Tim's looking at me. Did you found a head?

Well, it's a black resin head. It was made out of resin Uh, it was black had kind of a slender elongated face overly large ears. Um had a Mustache and beard and kind of a drooping mouth. Um Almost like you're describing like a shrunken head Except for I think it was full-sized.

Um, yeah, I just I always find heads at random yards Had to be ourselves. Yeah, so kevin bought this head because he thought it's kind of scary and cool And so he bought it probably would have tuned Well, after you hear the rest of the story, you probably kind of wouldn't start going yard sale. Well, no Just like just based on the description alone like yeah, I mean like I've got a jar full of lego heads Uh that we use for contests and we have it as like a centerpiece at brandy's our peaches house So um, yeah, I probably would say them like hey, this is cool. So what happened is uh, kevin's parents, uh, they were pretty uh Liberal in the raising of their child and they basically kind of let kevin's room be kevin's room, you know, he's doing good in school He didn't get in fights.

He had held on job as great as great. Um, so they just Never went in the room. Uh, his room was under lock and key He went in the anybody in and a few weeks after he bought this head which they were unaware that he purchased Um, they noticed that he started to lose weight. Uh, his appetite was gone.

He started to be kind of slovenly Um, quit showing up to work find the quidded job his great start to tank Um, and then one day shortly after this began they were in the home and i'll send kevin ran downstairs Uh, to learn what said you got to help me you got to help me. Um, and so they were kind of like, what's up? So they ended up going up to kevin's room, um, which they hadn't been in and when they went in there they found that everything in the room was draped in black cloth Um, he had various books of magic around the room, um various occult symbols drawn on pieces of paper various occult paraphernalia And in the center of the room was his head and kevin explained that basically once he bought the head and brought it home Um, he started to have kind of an urge to dabble with magic Uh, so he started to try and do some spells, bought some books, bought some Uh, items to use in the process for the rituals, uh, and initially thought it was kind of BS Uh, but then he started getting into like summoning spells and basically was trying to summon a spirit Um, kevin eventually was successful and summoned something that he claimed jumped into the head Uh, once it kind of started to inhabit the head kevin actually painted the head to look like what he thought was inside of inside of it Um, so as soon as kevin successfully started to see black inky shadows kind of moving around his room, um, and he started hearing voices Um, in kevin's book of books of magic he learned that if you could learn a spirit's name you could control it Uh, and so he's trying to figure out what his name was to basically get rid of it because he basically said it was following him everywhere he went It was watching him sleep. It was just everywhere he went he just had eyes on him Uh, so he tried to learn its name I always feel like somebody's watching me So can't get no privacy.

Oh So kevin um, besides he's going to try and figure out the spirit's name So he uses more magic to try and give his name and he just gets gibberish that he can't figure out what the name is Eventually he starts to actually hear the voice in his head of what the spirit is trying to tell him to do Um starts telling him, uh, you know who I am followed by historical laughter Um, he said then the spirit started kind of telling him hey, everybody hates you. You're worthless. Why don't you just die? You should just die.

Uh, hey, you should climb up that ladder and jump off the house Hey, you should run out of traffic. The voice started getting more and more insistent that kevin actually killed himself um at that point, john's apple's was called in and Came into kevin's room saw all the stuff that was in there. Uh took the stuff from the room uh sealed the spirit in the idol and Called in some priests and basically had an exorcism of the home end of kevin. Um as soon as that was done kevin returned to his kind of normal self.

Um, this one's interesting though because He basically bought this idol, uh head And he didn't really have any inclination to do anything with ritual magic or occult stuff until he got this head Um, it's thought that the head was probably used for something like that before and there's probably already some sort of attachment to it That was kind of influencing kevin to get into this stuff Uh and in the process kevin brought in something much worse. Um, kim kind of what are some of your thoughts on this? I would say the thing was already there to be honest like you said, um It's like any Demonic case that we've dealt with or read about um, the encroachment of the infestation phase are usually really mild Um, and then when you get in the full on like not quite possession But before that things do ramp up quite a bit and usually they only focus around one person So, uh, it's entirely possible that it was already there. Maybe he summoned something worse.

Maybe not but maybe he summoned in more Maybe he brought more, uh, who knows Um, I haven't seen the item so I don't know and after seeing that doll on a trowel set right now, but uh It's possible that it just it was kind of laying low and kind of like, yeah, do this Okay, now do this and it was kind of guiding him to do the things It wanted him to do so it could possibly invite something worse or something more Well, based on the information on the story, it seems like he was just getting himself opened up more and more and more to actual full on possession However, I would like uh, I would like to go on the demonic diet, you know, if I get a lose weight Uh, it's just some of the demon tan in your basement. It's not some of the demon and I lose 150 pounds. You know, great Mike what are your thoughts on the demonic kid? Sounds scary Why is work from Mike everybody sounds scary?

I like I like to quote the famous steve erwin Um, if you ever watch uh, was it crocodile hunter? Was that a joke? Yes, the crocodile So, uh, his favorite my favorite words is his word don't muck with it I thought you were gonna say krikey, but no Muck with it and he actually what happened he was with his big seer egg he mucked with it and he died so And it no disrespect to steve but he might do it so don't muck with it because All right, well heads are bad news. I know everybody at the table has got more items Um, and so we're gonna save them for a few trip episode Um, but before we go let's finish up some stuff Stop tell us about the stone of the week paranormal stuff So the stone of the week, um, not sure why this came to mind It's not a stone that I own Uh, just on the way here it kind of hit me so we're talking about toepaz Um, the color of toepaz it can be a golden yellow it can be brown blue clear red pink color or green Uh, it's appearance.

It's transparent. Uh, it's pointed crystal often small and Faceted or a large piece. Uh, it's not rare at all. It's very easily obtained from specialty stores Except for the red pink is actually pretty rich stone.

Um, it is mined from or comes from the united states Mexico, india, australia south africa, syrielanca and peckistan Now some of the attributes of toepaz it's a mellow empathetic stone that directs energy to where it is needed most It sues heals stimulates recharges remotivates and aligns the meridians of the body Toepaz promotes truth and forgiveness It helps shed light on the path highlights goals and taps into inner resources Uh, this crystal brings about a trust in the universe that enables you to be rather than to do it cuts through doubt and uncertainty Toepaz's vibrant energy brings joy generosity abundance and good health. It has traditionally been known as a stone of love and good fortune bringing a successful Uh, attainment of goals. It is extremely supportive for affirmation and manifestation and for visualization It is said that the facets and ends of toepaz crystals have both positive and negative energies Through which a request to the universe can be focused and then manifested on the earth plane That is excellent for clearing the aura and for including relaxation toepaz releases tension at any level and can speed up spiritual development where it has been labors Psychologically toepaz helps you to discover your own inner riches. It makes you feel confident and flanth Throp, I can't believe you.

Yeah, thank you big words. Yep. I struggle Uh wanting to share your good fortune and spread sunshine all around Uh negativity does not survive around joyful toepaz This stone promotes openness and honesty self-realization self-control and the urge to develop inner wisdom Mentally toepaz aids problem-solving and is particularly useful for those engaging in the arts It helps you to become aware of the influence you have and of the knowledge you have gained through hard work and life experiences This stone has the capacity to see both the bigger picture and the minute detail recognizing how they interrelate Toepaz assists in the in expressing ideas and converse a stuteness Toepaz is an excellent emotional support and stabilizes the emotions and makes you receptive to love from every source As far as healing goes, toepaz can be used to manifest health at a digestion and combats and raxia restores the sense of taste fortifies the nerves and stimulates the metabolism Uh st. Hill grid of bended a benjin recommended and elixir of toepaz to correct a dimness of vision Uh some of the places on your body that you want to place this when you're using it Uh would be a ring finger your solar plexus and brow chakra Position or place as appropriate for healing the elixir can be applied to the skin Uh there are several types of colors of toepaz and i'm not going to go into all of them Uh just kind of mentioned there's there's blue toepaz you have clear toepaz golden toepaz and pink toepaz um and each different color kind of brings a different um Function of what it does and uh Is that a bit for the sake of time i'm not going to get into like fluoride does yeah Fluorite there's like trombone there's different colors as well so um that's just the basic general attributes and healing properties of toepaz Excellent Mike you want to lead off with our paranormal news?

Sure. Do you want the title of a red or just the whole thing? You know what that is your call right now. This is from time actually so but you know times we're pretty reputable times we're not from time So uh time after time try it.

It's time for the news So as far as we know all our stores are ghost free a supermarket response to frozen aisle haunting post It what sounds like a tie-in for the upcoming new installment of the ghost message ghostbusters franchise Which comes out next year to an iris so excited castle you in i'm in we're in all right So it was sounds like a tie-in for the upcoming new installment the ghostbusters franchise and employee at the friend at the massachusetts market basket grocery store Claimed to have spotted a victorian air inspector haunting the frozen food aisle The employee christina bush who works in the stores bakery department posted about the ghost sighting in a local private facebook group This is going to sound really strange. She says but has anyone seen a ghost in the willington market basket Um, this is what she wrote a part of the closet according to the boston globe adding that after she saw the woman She looked to see if anyone else was catching a glimpse of the apparition and uh when she looked back up she was gone She looked kind of she looked kind of like melon collie and a little angry so it was kind of creepy in a sense But it was something bush said monday according to the local nbc affiliate She believes the woman was a ghost and asked the facebook group whether anyone else had a paranormal experience in her store The modern day ghost story has since gone viral with people across the country weighing in on the likelihood of a victorian air ghost choosing to hunt a market basket grocery store If the rumors are true it makes this market basket a lot more interesting said one shopper News of the honey even caught the attention of the massachusetts u.s representative sept molton who tweeted about the story Is the grocery store not interesting enough as it is? Yeah, it's kind of a main mundane place, right? That's what I got at the store for is excitement.

Hey, let's go buy groceries That's why I have like the cool thundering thing. I'll put in the car kids That's why like when the the mister come on in the produce section you have lightning okay, you know to make it more interesting. Yep I just get mad on the rat a grape not My wife it fights you for even suggesting great nuts. I like great nuts.

Greetness is awesome. I'm with mike Oh, it's awesome. My daughter's behind me throwing cressies like you tell she's putting the thumbs down They they don't however do the lightning effects and water the grape nuts But they do the grapes maybe so anyway, so apparently so the u.s representatives as tweeted apparently a ghost is haunting the willing to market basket I thought only I needed to worry about witches and ghouls in Salem Which is only a short distance away from Wilmington So the willing to police department is getting you on the action too. They posted a video on facebook with quote proof unquote of the hunting I haven't seen the video.

It's not attached to the article here But while they undoubtedly appreciate the free advertising market basket officials say that to their knowledge their stores are free from ghostly visitors And as far as we know all of our ghost stores are ghost free The spokespers for the company told the globe but if there is anything to it, she's probably attracted to our victorian area prices But I'm but I'm bummed And that's it for the parable news or the victorian expiration dates on their milk That's if your parable news that's it for our parable news. This guy's my lead So last way the night i'm just gonna paraphrase this one because it's kind of awesome So there was a paracon. Do you know where it was at him? I want to say it wasn't like Maine Oh, you're right.

It wasn't Maine. I'm not even saying that so there's a paracon in Maine And there's a group there and I have to look at their name because it's really terrible And I forget it because it doesn't make any sense to me It is ghost and ghost and apostrophe at paranormal adventures. So ghosts and at paranormal adventures I don't know that it makes no sense to me, but ghosts and apostrophe, but it makes sense to the three-year-old They let name them correct You have a struggling tree then doesn't it? That's my to look it up because it's like my primal.

Hold on. It's a stroke of genius So at this paracon, apparently john's afus was there and this paranormal group claimed to have brought anabel to the paranormal up to the paracon Their their table. They had a box had the same note that says positively do not touch And inside was as I claimed anabel Several of the celebrities there at the paracon and several of the guests were a little concerned because anabel is very well known in paranormal circles And so they approached john's afus who was one of the celebrities there and They went over and got talking to the people at the table from ghosts and at paranormal adventures I had to there was a lot of very proud of that And kind of asked them what was up. Well the gal manning the table there advised john's afus that They were friends with john's afus.

She was actually a cousin She was john's afus cousin and john's afus had let her borrow anabel to display there at their table john's afus informed the scale that he was interested to find out that they were cousins And basically proceeded to kind of chew her ass a little bit This is directly from john's afus's facebook page He said just my feelings I think it was totally inappropriate for any paranormal group to show up at a convention and totally recreate the case and claim You now have anabel the doll from an oran's collection And when I asked you why you were doing this the response was I am one of the one of john's afus's cousin Uh, I looked at you and said really nice to meet you Do your damn homework you just lost all credibility with a lot of us in the field so that we're there this weekend So yeah, they straight up pulled john's afus Uh, where are you cousin? That's how we got the doll? You know, I spent some time with john's afus I drove john's afus here to my home for one of our episodes and I have a feeling that actual conversation with john's afus was But a few more af words that's there is the thing He went off on these people, um and he can get a little feisty and so I'm sure he went off on them too Uh, yeah, so these are people who make the paranormal feel look bad because basically when they're lying about stuff like that You have to discount pretty much any of it's they get because you don't know whether they're fabricating or not for their benefit And I don't think they realize that anyway. Thanks everybody for listening again.

Thanks for checking out the radio running network at radio running calm That's weird wild stuff you can check us out at events per normal calm, which is the home of the supernatural hour podcast Go back listen some of our old episodes and thanks again for listening tonight and we will have some more just so you know There are investigations in the works Uh, we are also working on doing some presentations and possibly Partnering with kaden and doing some gallery readings as well. Yes, that is in the works and we will get you date as soon as we have it So we can we saw we could just ask You've been listening to the supernatural hour at advanced paranormal calm

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