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EPISODE · May 16, 2025 · 32 MIN

Cyber Security and Data Privacy: S5E5: The Billable Hour has Met Its Match in AI

from To the Extent That... · host ABA Business Law Section

In Episode 5, host Jordan L. Fischer, Esq. interviews Professor of Law, Nancy B. Rapoport, and Joseph Tiano, CEO of Legal Decoder, on the long term impact of Artificial Intelligence, and specifically Generative AI, on the billable hourly model. Nancy and Joe share their perspectives having interviewed numerous law firms for their recent publication, Fighting the Hypothetical: Why Law Firms Should Rethink the Billable Hour in the Generative AI Era, 20 Wash. J. L. Tech. & Arts 41 (2025). Specifically, they discuss the specific ways in which they are seeing Gen AI change day-to-day legal operations, and how those impacts will result in changes to client billing expectations. Nancy and Joe provide insight into alternative billing models, and a new hybrid approach that law firms need to embrace in order to adapt to the changing times. For more information on Professor Rapoport, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancyrapoport/; for more information on Joesph Tiano, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-tiano-1767372/. To contact our host, Jordan L. Fischer, Esq., regarding this podcast or to inquire into becoming a guest, please contact Ms. Fischer at [email protected].

In Episode 5, host Jordan L. Fischer, Esq. interviews Professor of Law, Nancy B. Rapoport, and Joseph Tiano, CEO of Legal Decoder, on the long term impact of Artificial Intelligence, and specifically Generative AI, on the billable hourly model. Nancy and Joe share their perspectives having interviewed numerous law firms for their recent publication, Fighting the Hypothetical: Why Law Firms Should Rethink the Billable Hour in the Generative AI Era, 20 Wash. J. L. Tech. & Arts 41 (2025). Specifically, they discuss the specific ways in which they are seeing Gen AI change day-to-day legal operations, and how those impacts will result in changes to client billing expectations. Nancy and Joe provide insight into alternative billing models, and a new hybrid approach that law firms need to embrace in order to adapt to the changing times. For more information on Professor Rapoport, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancyrapoport/; for more information on Joesph Tiano, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-tiano-1767372/. To contact our host, Jordan L. Fischer, Esq., regarding this podcast or to inquire into becoming a guest, please contact Ms. Fischer at [email protected].

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