Cyber909: Episode 10 with Nic Muy

In this episode of Cyber909, host Den Jones introduces the podcast's focus on cybersecurity and beyond, emphasizing discussions on emotional health, the future of security, and other off-topic subjects. Den welcomes his guest, Nic Moy, the Chief Security Officer at Scrut Automation, and highlights Nic's extensive background in the security industry, including his work in the Obama administration on cybersecurity policy. Main Topics Covered NIST Cybersecurity Framework: - Nic's involvement in the creation of the framework. - The importance of making the framework outcomes-based rather than prescriptive. - Challenges in developing a widely accepted document with input from various sectors. Security Industry Challenges: - The evolving nature of cybersecurity threats and the need for continuous adaptation. - The balance between securing assets and managing resources and budgets. - The importance of identifying and protecting the "crown jewels" of a business. AI in Cybersecurity: - The role of AI and large language models (LLMs) in cybersecurity. - The need for practical applications of AI that solve real problems. - The potential and limitations of AI in enhancing security operations and product development. Vendor Relationships and Solutions: - The importance of vendors understanding the specific needs of their customers. - The challenge of differentiating between useful AI solutions and those that are overhyped. - The need for vendors to provide clear value propositions and support tailored to their customers' requirements. Future of AI and Cybersecurity: - Predictions for the AI industry in the coming year. - The potential for AI to transform underserved areas and improve efficiency in various sectors. - The likelihood of increased consolidation and acquisitions in the AI startup space.