Cybersecurity, Dishwashers, and AI Threats: Welcome Back!

After a three-year hiatus, Frank Downs and Dustin Brewer are back—older, wiser, and still talking into microphones they probably shouldn’t be trusted with. In this launch of their new podcast: Legitimate Cybersecurity, the two 20-year cyber veterans tackle one of the industry’s most persistent problems: why patching is still broken in 2025. They explore: The cultural and business reasons patching never gets prioritized How vulnerability management became the garbage collection of cyber Why budget, not breaches, still drives security decision-making The role of AI as both insider and outsider threat And yes—why your dishwasher needs Wi-Fi now Part technical, part philosophical, and all-too-real, this episode lays the groundwork for future conversations on what actually works in cybersecurity—and why so much of it still doesn’t. 🎧 Whether you’re a veteran CISO, a SOC analyst, or just wondering what CVSS stands for (don’t worry, we forgot too), this one’s for you.