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EPISODE · Nov 17, 2025 · 6 MIN

Da Capo Conversations 2.0 with Ursula Kwong-Brown and Valerie Liu

from For Good Measure · host Ensemble for These Times

For Good Measure, by Ensemble for These Times (E4TT)Episode 181: Da Capo Conversations 2.0 with Ursula Kwong-Brown and Valerie LiuLooking for a way to listen to diverse creators and to support equity in the arts? Tune in weekly to For Good Measure!Today we revisit Ursula Kwong-Brown’s and Valerie Liu’s perspectives on a piece of theirs that we played. If you enjoyed today’s conversation and want to know more about Ursula Kwong Brown and Valerie Liu, check them out here and here. Parts of this episode originally premiered in October 2024, click here, and March 2023, click here.This podcast is made possible by grants from the California Arts Council, SF Arts Commission, Grants for the Arts, and generous donors, like you. Want to support For Good Measure and E4TT? Make a tax-deductible donation or sign up for our newsletter, and subscribe to the podcast!Intro music: “Trifolium” by Gabriela Ortiz, performed by E4TT (Ilana Blumberg, violin; Abigail Monroe, cello; Margaret Halbig, piano), as part of “Below the Surface: Music by Women Composers,” January 29, 2022Outro music: “Lake Turkana” by Marcus Norris, performed by E4TT (Margaret Halbig, piano), as part of “Alchemy,” October 15, 2021Transcription courtesy of Otter.ai.Buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1903729/episodes/18193691Co-Producer, Host, and E4TT co-founder: Nanette McGuinnessCo-Producer and Audio Engineer: Stephanie M. NeumannPodcast Cover Art: Brennan StokesInterns: Renata Volchinskaya, Sam Mason, Christy XuSupport the showVisit E4TT.org and find us on social media!Instagram: @e4ttTwitter: @e4ttimesFacebook: @EnsembleforTheseTimesListen/subscribe on Soundcloud, Spotify, and YouTube.

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