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Daily Mets Podcast: Episode 72 "The One That Asks 'Wherefore Art Thou, Yoenis?'"

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As the Mets struggle to score, Yoenis Cespedes remains on the DL. Josh does a deep dive on the lineup, on Cespedes, on the just-completed draft, and more... and Wayne Randazzo interviews Davey Johnson. no extra charge.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In their last 18 games, Metstarters have a 2.36 ERA of those 18 games, the Mets have won 5. Jacob de Gromsai on caliber season going away straight now is carrying a League best 1.490 ERA, but he's just 4-0 for the year, 8-0 decisions. The hope for this Yankee series is that the OA would ride to the rescue, maybe even on that white horse he owns, like in spring training that one time. Alas, it appears the horse is in the barn and the Mets are stuck in a rut.

Since the beginning of May, only the Blue Jays have a slightly worse record in all the major leagues. So as the Cesspades' less-ness continues, must the losses continue as well. We will poke, prod and explore, hittle-dittle and resolve right here on the DMV. It's your daily meds podcast, it's your daily meds podcast, it's where you're gonna find out what the meds are doing.

It's your daily meds podcast, it's your daily meds podcast, it's where you're gonna find out what the meds are doing. Much as they want him, much as they need him. It appears to return if your way into Cesspades isn't yet put. And since he isn't talking to anybody, it's a bit of a mystery as to what comes next.

But the current situation is dire enough that somebody else had better step up than without pulling a hamstring when they do it. Josh Lewin with you, and here's the disappointing thing about where this is with Cesspades. The intro to his hip on May 6th, and played five games despite the residual discomfort right after that. But at the time of the injury, the meds were doing okay, they were 19 and 18.

Well, they've gone 8 and 14 in his absence. They have lost six straight, seven in a row at home, and somehow in their last eight-home games, they have scored nine times. And in one of those games, they have 14 innings to work with instead of nine. My issue with Cesspades is just me.

It's kind of two-fold. I'm a long layoff, of course, because at first it was Guy goes to the DL kicking and screaming, but now he's settled on to the DL like a fat guy in Wihamik. And I get it, things happen, things change, things aren't maybe what they seem. But where's the guy been for his teammates?

And why is he so anti-media, all of a sudden? When the meds resigned La Potencia to El Contract Rondé, there was a proviso, something that Cesspades's agents had put forth, that he's not actually doing it. In an era where there's data for everything, Cesspades's agents tried to calculate their client's overall dollar value to the meds. They didn't just look at his actual baseball stats.

They used an analytics firm in Chicago, and they came up with a dollar figure for the impact that Cesspades would have off the field, social media, television revenues, taken in merchandise sales. They put a $3.2 million figure on the value of the 50 tabloid back pages that had featured Cesspades over the course of 2016. Cesspades playing with player. Cesspades setting a game-changing home-runner, driving an exotic car to spring training.

If it went on a back page of the New York Post of the Daily News or Newsday, it counted in those calculations. So from all that, the agents presented this huge book, and they came up with the bottom line. Cesspades, in their words, was worth $34.7 million to the meds in 2016, or $7.1 million more than the team at Paytum. And the message is, yeah, meds, you can afford an expensive new multiyear contract with this guy.

How about $4 years, $110 million? It's a bargain. Well, that's before Aaron Judge arrived in the Bronx, and before Stanton got traded to the Bronx. Now more than ever, the meds could use those positive-backed page headlines.

They could use Cesspades out there. I really thought this year, Yoyena Cesspades was going to be the first ever meds MVP. It is hard to believe no med has ever won that award, but like they're saying football, you can't help the club from the top. Meaning if you're not healthy, if you're not playing, you're up no surface, you're not earning your money.

And again, just from where I sit, I'd at least like to hear something, see something that, oh, this is killing me. I wish I could be there, or, come on, Todd Frazier. Who is a buddy? I want you to get ahead.

I'm here for you. I'm high-fiving you. Well, back to the present reality, without number 52 in the lineup. The meds have scored two runs in the last 42 innings.

They were just swept in a two-game series by a team that had come in 17 and 41. The meds scored one time in that series. It was on a sack fly in an inning. It started with runners in second and third, and nobody out.

And this schedule coming up is not exactly checking the soup for a meds fan in the soul. The Yankees are starting tonight, and that's when you want to have your swagger. You want to be what it puts for a walk-and-say. You want to be cock-a-talk about a walk-a-talk.

And instead, it feels like there's the two dorky guys in favorite college who end up joining Delta House, when flounder and pinto first show up at the cool fraternity party, and they're introduced over and over to Muhammad and Jugdish and Sidney and Clayton. No way the Yankees should get their swagger in a city field with Stanton and Judge and a team of 20 games over 500 plus. And the meds should not be ready to look them in the eye. You look at the talent that the meds actually have that is healthy right now.

There's no reason they can't win two out of three or all three in this series, and they need it. The meds are 27 and 32. They've lost six in a row, eight straight at home. They're two and eleven and they're last 13 now.

They've got seven runs in 59 innings on this home stand. But I'm serious when I say this, they should still meet the Yankees, the only games here. Look them in the eye. Shake their hands hard.

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I'll start with two words, Jacob and de Grom. And also, Matt's and Cindergarten, all of whom have been pitching really, really well. I'll leave Matt's aside for just a second. Matt's and Wheeler and Vargas are all two and four, but de Grom and Cindergarten combined are eight and one.

And we talked about de Grom's got the sub one and a half ERA, and his whip is basically one on the button. He's not allowing any home runs. Cindergarten should be coming off of the E.L. to pitch on Sunday.

He's four and one with a 3.06. Matt's has been pitching beautifully. His ERA is 3.42 now. I don't know all the way down there.

And if it wasn't for stolen bases and the occasional home run allowed, it's going to be a guy with an ERA in the twos. 27 years old, time for that big season. Even Vargas has been much better at like 7.71 ERA doesn't sound super, but remember it was twice that, not too long ago. So, the meds pitching, who they've got going in this series, kind of like it.

I really do. Let's right now get you a couple things, and I should have mentioned this at the top of the podcast, that it's not just going to be meds versus Yankee stuff. I do want to run an interview back for you today. I did a feature on the last podcast about the meds and Orioles connections.

I made a big boo boo. I left out a big one. I forgot to mention Davey Johnson. It's a huge connection between the two.

You might know he's just written a book. He's already written a few, but now he's written one more. He's got a chapter in there. A couple chapters actually about his time in Baltimore as a manager.

It ended very unceremoniously with a fax going back and forth to get him resigned on the exact day he was named American League Manager of the Year. Pretty bizarre. But obviously his time with the meds as well. A lot of that covered in the book.

And Wayne Randazzo had a chance to sit down and talk to Davey as part of the pregame show on the air the other night. But I thought you'd like to hear that. And we'll present it to you right now. Courtesy of Ridgewood Savings Bank.

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Member FDIC, Equal Housing Lender. Here's Wayne and Davey. Wayne Randazzo on the Lee Sun Meds pregame show with the former manager of the New York Mets, the World Series Champions in 1986. Davey Johnson, you got a book out now.

Davey Johnson, my wild ride in baseball and beyond. What was important to you to put your career in your life into words? Well, number one, I wanted to raise some money for my wife's chair at the S.O.S. Sportage College to respect under Privy Young Girls getting an education.

And she has 47 of them in college right now. A bunch of them have already graduated. Doctors, engineers. And the other thing, I wanted young baseball players to see what I had to go through to get the big leagues.

And also prospective young managers. I wanted them to see some of the problems when you get to that level that you're going to have to deal with. And I had to deal with a lot of them. What did you learn about yourself while writing this?

You know, I hate to go back because I'm not a person that likes to live in the past. I don't have any ego. And there were good times and bad times. Eric Schim is a great writer and he made it easy for me.

But I've read paragraphs and stuff that we wrote when they came out. But I won't read it again. It's very difficult for me. I have a lot of great memories.

But a lot. I'm also very hard to deal with. With that in 1986 team, of course, a couple of years before that, you got Gary Carter in a trade from Montreal. When you got him, did you feel like that was the piece you needed to put it together and win it all?

Well, he was a big piece. You know, I liked Michael up going into there. We had some weaknesses. You know, we had some weaknesses in the bullpen.

We had some weaknesses. You know, for sure, it was a decent catcher. But he's not in Carter's class. When picking him up, he was a great four-hole hitter behind Keith.

But he was also, a lot of people don't realize he was a great single caller behind the plate. He got the most out of my young pitching staff. He demanded more of them. He had a book on every hitter in the league.

And he demanded that of the pitchers. So he was a lot more influenced than a lot of people thought. Does it make you proud to see guys like Keith Hernandez and Ron Darling go on to have great second careers and keep the legacy of that team a lot? Yeah, I mean, they were great players for me.

I mean, they won a lot of games. They were stars on my team. You know, and they do a great job on TV. I watch them a lot.

You know, sometimes I agree with them, sometimes I don't. They're both very bright. So nothing's changed then in the last 32 years. Nothing's changed at all.

What do you miss about baseball and about being in the game every day? Well, you know, I miss the relationship you have with the players and the press. I don't miss the travel in the hotel rooms and all that. But I do miss the competition.

But I enjoy, I have two dogs at home and I take them to the park before the game start. And I watch two or three games at baseball games at night. So I can second guess the managers, second guess the announcers. And it's a wonderful time.

And no pressure on me. And I'm basically, well, you believe it or not, I'm kind of an introvert. I like being alone. So it's no big deal for me.

When you got to manage, I mean, there's so many guys that are almost taking their uniforms off and then putting on another one just to start managing again and go from playing to managing almost immediately. How long does it take for a manager to really find his stride at being good at that? Well, I thought it was really good right from the get-go. So what do you ask me?

But no, I mean, I think I was very fortunate. I got to manage two years in the minor leagues, actually three years in the minor leagues and row of ones. So I knew the talent in the leagues. I knew how they related to me.

And as a manager, you have to be right all the time because the players judge you every single minute of the day. But the only thing I wanted to do as a manager is I wanted guys to play up their potential. I wanted to always put them in situations where they could succeed. And I feel like I did that.

Even though I got fired three or four times, who cares? I had other challenges. But I never felt like I hurt any player. Are you ready for the Mets to win another World Series and move on, I guess, in some way from 1986?

Yes, I'd love to see him win. I mean, I love the town. I love the fans. I was looking at me in the Grand pitch for me in the Woodbat League a number of years ago.

He didn't want to be a shortstop. But he's a great pitcher. And I want him and all those guys to play very well. And I'd like to see him fighting for the panopting of the year.

The only living man that has managed the Mets to a World Series championship, Davey Johnson, thanks for your time. And good luck with the book soon. Well, I hope so. My wife otherwise would probably keep me out of the house because he's going to her charity.

So I got to do everything I can to help people buy this book. Hi, thanks to Wayne and Davey Johnson Sports Illustrated. I had a great feature on Davey a couple summers ago. And it asked which man has led a more accomplished and colorful baseball light, who's going around the game today.

This guy batted against Whitey Ford. He got the last hit off Sandy Coke back. He hit the Heinehank Aaron as a brave and the Japanese home run champion Sadiguro Ho in Japan. Made the last out of the 69 World Series at Shea, who was 15 feet from Mookie's Grounder in 86, lost a playoff game on the Jeffrey Mayor of Fan interference home run.

He's the guy that moved Cal Ripken off his shortstop. He's won gold gloves. He's been an all-star. He's won a World Series as a player and a manager.

He's been a manager of the year. He's like Zellic, or Forrest Gump. If it's interesting, it has been touched by Davey Johnson. So anyway, it was great to see Davey back around the ballpark this past series when he came in when the Orioles were in town.

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Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf. The game tonight, Sanaka against the ground. That is an A plus pitching match. I'm not a hero.

It's a Naka 7-2, but with a bloated ERA, 4.79 is that total. He's averaging a strikeout and inning. He's walk only 18, but he's allowed 15 home runs. I'm talking to you, J Bruce.

I'm talking to you, Michael can forward on talking to you, Adrian Gonzalez. Those three big left-hand bats have combined this year to hit two home runs at City Field, and we are 31 home games along now. Free shirt Friday tonight, that's presented by Duncan Donuts. It is a 7-10 game.

The game tomorrow night at 7-15, because of Fox, a fireworks night, and that'll be presented by Verizon. And then Sunday, June the 10th, that is the Jerry's Familiar Fed hit for the first 15,000 fans. Before we get out of here, we can do a whole podcast on the draft and on Met's Drafts of years past. We're just talking to Davey Johnson.

So one of the more interesting drafts of the match of all time was 1986. No Darryl Strawberries or Doc Goodens, top top in 86. In fact, the Mets whiffed on each of their first three picks. They selected a trio of players who never did appear in the big leagues.

But later in that draft, I think this is so interesting. Cal Eldred in the 26th rounds didn't sign him. John Olarud in the 27th round didn't sign him. Scott Erickson and Todd Jones in the 36th and 41st rounds didn't sign him.

All those guys would go on to big careers in the big leagues, the Mets had them, didn't sign him. And if you didn't know this, over the years, the Mets also drafted Roger Clemens, Darren Erstad, Rick Helling, Rafael Palmero, Matt Williams signed none of them. So hopefully a lot of these guys that were drafted these last few days will get signed. And I think they will.

You might have heard of the number one pick to death. I'm going to go a little deeper, deeper dive here. The number two pick, the Texas High School, White Ham pitcher, Simeon Woods, goes by Woods Richardson actually. Great athlete, great competitor, good breaking ball already.

People seem to think that's a nice pick. Carlos Cortez at number three. With a top 100 prospect out of high school. But he hit just 260 this year in college.

And what's interesting about this guy is he throws with his left hand when he plays the outfield, his right hand when he's in the infield. And the Mets did draft him as a second baseman, but everybody seems to think he's going to end up in left field. His teammate at South Carolina, pitcher Adam Hill, was the Mets number four pick in the draft. And he did not have a good year this year.

I can't really paint this with a nice brush here for you. He struggled to throw strikes and only had 50 strikeouts and 80 innings. But Adam Hill on the team is very good at South Carolina Game Talk team, the round four pick. As you look down the line here, Clemson's reliever, Riley Gilliam was the number five pick.

Kind of a max effort guy, they say 95 mile an hour dude with a curve ball in the low 80s, struggles with the control. The catcher at number six could end up being a pretty good pick. Nick Meyer is his name. They say his defensive skills right now could almost play in the major leagues and he's 21.

He's very, very polished. But he's got three home runs and 600 career bats at Cal Poly. So kind of like a Jeff Mathers type it would seem. Kevin Smith, a left hand pitcher from Georgia.

That's a guy that went at number seven. Tyler McGill went 18th out of the University of Arizona. His brother Trevor McGill was drafted by the Padres a few years ago. And McGill did not put up big numbers really at all in college.

It was at Loyola, Marymount, then transferred to Arizona at a 4.68, the RA for Arizona this year. Number nine pick, this is an interesting one. This is Bryce Montes, Dave Polka. And a guy that's hit 100 miles an hour on the radar gun.

He's got a plus slider. But again, one of these guys where control is kind of a thing. So a bit of a project, but an interesting pick. 22 year old Adam Missouri who's already had his time.

He's John. Number 10 pick. We'll leave it there. I want to take it through all 40 rounds here because I know you guys have things to do.

But Manny Rodriguez, University of Cincinnati, Brooklyn born and raised. So hopefully a return to New York in the office here. 21 year old shortstop. Once again, Mets and Yankee starting the three game series tonight.

Looks like it will be without your way into SES. But obviously there are some Mets who are capable of much more. They hopefully will start to give much more. Devin Mesoraco thinks his hamstrings going to be good to go.

He's got five home runs and only 60 Mets at bats right now. Gonzalez, I don't know how you guys feel about Adrian Gonzalez, but I'm looking at a stats right here. 244 batting average, six homers, 26 runs batted in. He's 36 years old.

That's almost to the letter or number. I guess what I thought you'd get out of Adrian Gonzalez and everything went well. I don't have a problem with Gonzalez. I wish he'd stopped rolling over into the shift.

But right now he and everybody else slumping. Even Cabrera is slumping. Remember when his dribble Cabrera was top three, top four in the National League in hitting? And by the way, how weird is it that Matt Kemp is leading the league in hitting now?

But Cabrera is down to 286. He's on a two for 27. Frazier could go off against the Yankees. Be Thumbs up guy this time.

Michael Confordo is due to get going. Jay Bruce. We talked about it over and over guys. Three runs batted in since May 1st.

That can't continue. Even Brandon Imo is at a spin right now. His batting average has gotten $299 to $267 in a hurry. So I gave you a lot of names right there.

If two of them can heat up this weekend, you've got to go on and Matt's and send a guard on the mound. I really like how that plays. I think the Mets could actually surprise the Yankees quite a bit starting tonight. If you are ready to join the Mets on the upcoming road trip, you've got to throw this out there for you before we leave.

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But hotel tonight, that's the app you got to have. You book a room in 10 seconds. Just three taps and a swipe. So this is Josh Lowen.

Amy Endring podcast. Hope you liked it at least a little bit. And again, with Jacob de Grom on the mound and a guy that is only one four times all year. And really it should be nine by now if not ten.

You just get the sense that the law of averages are due to stop just grinding the Mets down. At some point, de Grom will go out there and get his just desserts. I think Jay Bruce is ready to hit one in the upper tank. I think he's a volcano that's been dormant and ready to be studious all over the Yankees here.

So if that happens, maybe we'll talk tomorrow after a victory. Then we'll break the losing streak and get everybody happy again. Maybe even your way to assess, but just maybe he'll want to come back and join the fire. Is that a phrase?

Join the fire? Did I just make that up? Sorry. Hashtag join the fire.

I gotta go. Josh Lowen, daily meds. Bye. Bye.

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