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EPISODE · May 29, 2026 · 35 MIN

Dan Mullen: Look Poor to the IRS, Rich to the Lender

from Real Estate Elevated with Cheryl Knowlton, CSP

Many agents build successful careers without ever building a financial plan or exit strategy. In this episode, you'll learn how money behaviors, tax strategy, and smart investing can turn your real estate business into a true wealth engine.   In this episode, Cheryl Knowlton and Dan Mullen discuss: Early career path from aspiring pilot to CPA and mortgage professional Friction between tax preparers, lenders, and real estate professionals Real estate agents investing in their own product and building wealth Money stories, childhood conditioning, and financial behavior Exit strategies, succession planning, and retirement for real estate agents   Key Takeaways: Understanding how tax returns are used beyond the IRS, by lenders, insurers, and others, is essential for making smarter financial and business decisions. Real estate professionals can build long-term wealth by investing in their own product, but the strongest strategy also includes thoughtful diversification beyond real estate. Many agents lack any real exit strategy because their entire business and brand are tied to them personally, leaving nothing to sell when they step away. Early money experiences and family messages often create unconscious "money stories" that drive financial behavior until they're examined and rewritten. Talking openly about money, networking with financial professionals, and learning how money truly works can help agents better serve clients and design a life and business they can actually retire from.   "If you are the brand and you leave your business so often, it's worth absolutely nothing." - Dan Mullen About the guest, Dan Mullen: Dan Mullen is a mortgage advisor and a partner at a tax firm, a combination that gives him a unique advantage in helping self-employed clients qualify for mortgages. Because these borrowers are underwritten using tax returns rather than W-2s and paystubs, Dan's deep understanding of tax documentation allows him to navigate the process more effectively. Having seen firsthand the pain and frustration caused by mortgage letter requests, he is on a personal crusade to help tax preparers avoid them and to bridge the gap between mortgage underwriters and tax professionals.   Connect with Dan Mullen: Website: https://www.futureandmain.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielbmullen/    Connect with Cheryl Knowlton: Website: www.cherylknows.com  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwvWKXBC6fKn1dLGY11hxIg  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theknowltonteam/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylknowlton/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cherylknows/  Show Notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

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