What is Metamodernism? | Beyond Post-Modernism, Meaning Crisis & Complexity Thinking | Daniel Gortz

Daniel Görtz is a political philosopher, sociologist, and one of the leading voices in metamodern thought. Holding a PhD in sociology from Lund University in Sweden, Daniel is one half of the Hanzi Freinacht duo — the alias under which he has released "The Listening Society" and "The Nordic Ideology," two groundbreaking books unpacking metamodern philosophy and its implications for politics, spirituality, and human development.In this conversation, we explore what metamodernism actually is and how it emerged from the pitfalls of postmodernism, why developmental thinking matters for navigating the meaning crisis and the meta-crisis, and what it means to think in complexity rather than in simple linear frameworks.We also get into the differences between integralism and metamodernism, how to understand developmental imbalances through the Hanzi model, the main problems with creating spiritual communities, and what pathways towards a genuinely metamodern spirituality might look like.A wide-ranging and intellectually rich conversation for anyone trying to make sense of where we are — and where we might be going.🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES 🔗The Listening Society — book + in-depth summary Daniel's site — Metamoderna Metamodernity book Kumare Documentary on fake gurus Erich Fromm Michel Foucault David Foster Wallace Jason Ananda Josephson Storm Steven Pinker Vaclav Smil Mooji Eckhart Tolle🕰️ TIMESTAMPS 🕰️0:00 - Intro0:41 - How Daniel got into sociology and developmental thinking10:04 - Integralism vs metamodernism14:38 - Who is Hanzi Freinacht? The crossroads of fact and fiction16:45 - The pitfalls of postmodernism and the emergence of metamodernism26:00 - But what is metamodernism?31:58 - The importance of developmental thinking41:58 - Understanding developmental imbalances — the Hanzi model1:06:00 - Understanding and developing complexity thinking1:22:30 - The importance of having your depth honored1:29:20 - Integrating higher complexity thinking1:33:30 - The main problems with creating spiritual communities1:43:33 - Pathways towards a metamodern spirituality2:09:08 - What's next for Daniel Görtz and Hanzi Freinacht?*Subscribe to my YouTube channel to watch the video versions of the Elevating Consciousness Podcast *Subscribe to the Insighter Substack to get in-depth articles on the theory and practice of human transformation through a post-conventional