Daniel Ricciardo

Welcome welcome welcome to our chair experts on expert Dan Shepherd joined by Monsoon. Hi. Good morning. Good afternoon.

Good night Good evening. Nice. I don't know whether to do my Australian accent or my Italian. Oh my god There's so many options.

Yeah, I know because our guest his ethnicity is Italian or as I say Italian yet He is an Aussie so you would do actually because would you do an Indian accent for me? You probably wouldn't I get offended before I knew you might have but now I've changed my ways. Yeah, all right So Aussie let me say Aussie Daniel Raquel Dale. That was nice.

Good. I Daniel Raquel now. It's getting worse Daniel Ricardo is Well, he's kind of tight for my favorite for me one driver. He was awesome.

You're nervous, right? No, I wasn't nervous I just like I don't know anything about this and I'm probably gonna have to count sheep in my head during the interview or Something I'm just I'm just not interested but I was super interested. Well, right I guess what I meant your fear level was is that is a race car driver correct for the show like is that something that would interest Aren't cherries and I think we were both relieved to see that he is so diagnosed at charming that he transcends that sport Totally now. I love this work.

I was like there's work Well, you started watching the Netflix show. Yeah, Daniel Ricardo, which if you're in Italy You would pronounce it Daniel Ricciardo cuz it's got two seats But he is in Aussie, so he says Riccadio. He probably didn't say that way anyways He is currently a Formula One driver and he's won some awards at 2014 Lorenzo Benini trophy and the 2015 Laura's breakthrough of the year He has seven wins in Formula One 31 podiums and three pole positions. He's fantastic.

Enjoy Daniel Ricardo Okay Okay, okay, wow, sorry for the delay. It's early for us. This is too early for us. We're night owls.

I apologize I hope you take it as a compliment. I can't think of anyone else. I work it up early for like this. Thank you Where are you at right now?

I'm in Portugal at the moment. So we got the next race this weekend So yeah, we don't talk till pretty much Thursday. We'd like media and marketing stuff and then practice out Friday Well, you have a race weekend. How early do you get there?

First of all, you don't live in Portugal. Do you? No, okay, okay Well, we're based in Europe. They're always like around.

That's too vague. What are you talking about based in North America? Is that helpful? That's like people here.

I don't know if you know this, but people who have gone to Harvard if you have somewhere they get with the college They'll go oh, I'm just going Boston. Okay. I like to play it low-key, but yeah, so I'm basically going around a lot And this year we just compress everything into Europe so far to like overseas races to answer your question to go like to Austin Mm-hmm. Probably because I like the city, but I'll get there like coming the Monday before the race just to get a few days Also get on the jet wagon stuff.

Yeah, I was kind of wondering that you go to all these awesome places like F1 calendar takes you You know the most amazing places people would definitely want to go visit But I assume I imagine it's kind of like I go somewhere to do a movie It's like I'm excited to go and I just don't do one thing I'm in my hotel room, and then I do the work on there to do so I'm wondering like how much do you actually get to enjoy the cities you go to? I try and make a habit of if the city I'm excited about I'll try to go early or save it after but yeah It's not a waste away with if we've got come in afterwards with the team or sponsors But yeah, like the first few years of F1 I was very much like hotel track airport and I was just very like this is working That's it. Yeah, but now I try to make a habit of like spending a bit of time in destination and actually either learn about a place We'll just try and see the place so when it's all said and done I can actually say I did more than just drive around the racetrack Yeah, I'm so glad you had that perspective because you know there couldn't be a pursuit That's more goal oriented than yours like it's just all about how you finish on that Sunday So to learn to enjoy the process and not miss the whole experience I have to mention so many drivers end up just missing the entire experience You're so my obically focused on that one moment in time So I'm very delighted to hear that you're just kind of prancing around these places and crack out some memories Yeah, yeah, absolutely I had a bit of a moment it was a few years ago where I was basically just to cool up in at the result on Sunday evening And I didn't really have anything else to show for it, you know, and I didn't have a good result I was like, oh, I don't want to say miserable but I'll be flat, you know, so I just tried to appreciate the journey as well Because it's like a part of the fun, right? And also your identity is such right that you're a driver I imagine when you think of who you are and who you introduce yourself to people as like you would probably say driver before you said Australian or ethically Italian or son or anything, right?

It's got to be in like the top of how you define yourself as a person It's funny, it's a weird don't fight, I remember once I did say I'm a driver and that's my profession I feel that type is like all of that to them, but the response is also like an uber driver I'm sure, sure, sure, sure That's funny, but yeah, I just say hi, sorry I was kind of there for a second We don't have any light in the ass She has a beautiful dark complexion as you can see, it doesn't bode well in low light So this is kind of my hour to shine, generally she looks prettier, now you can see me So listen, I'm gonna be very honest with you, first of all I'm very attracted to you, you're so charming and cute, I just love you But I could have given a shit about Formula One, just I never cared, I think a lot of Americans, it's not on the radar Also I love driving, but I don't like watching, but that Formula One series on Netflix, I think drive to survive That opened up, the whole F1 world to me, and I became obsessed, I watched those so fast they were like treats every night I got to watch And what was so cool about that shows you get a behind the curtain look at the personalities, which is kind of missing in that sport Cause everyone's wearing a helmet and they're in a car, it's really hard to know what the personality types are And even within the states, I've been less attracted to football because everyone's wearing a helmet Whereas basketball, it's like you're just watching their personalities, right? But the show gave this great window of everyone's personalities, and of course yours was so exciting, you're so, as I said, charismatic and funny and goofy And it just got me super interested, and now I count down the hours to the races, so now I bought the stupid Formula One package, it's way overpriced, it's not even on Apple TV, it's a terrible fucking app, but I have it So I just want to kind of try to hook our audience who certainly doesn't care about Formula One into some of the things I think we're mind-blowing to me about Formula One Well maybe just what it is But without question, it is the very highest level of racing in the world, and there are only 20 drivers in Formula One, and they are the best drivers in the world This is what got me excited, I think this is what blow people's mind I guess I would have guessed the budget for one of those race teams was maybe $45, push in $50 million, and tell me what the budget of Red Bull and Mercedes is This is really bad, I should know, it's like I want to say like $3,400 million? It's between $300 and $500 million a year, $300 and $500 million a year, so that means in the last 10 years of that Mercedes team, they have spent $5 billion racing a car! It's reposterous!

I love it! You guys could have cured a disease, it's wonderful! It's funny, it's crazy, I guess if you really think of probably a lot of jobs will look like if you go down to the core, you make your profession doing what? It's like I drive these multi-million dollar cars around in circles basically, and that's what I work my whole life for, it's crazy!

I remember when I was young as well, when I started to understand a little bit of the business of the sport, and it's like yeah, we're just moving towards basically 200 mile an hour billboards! Exactly, but I'm stoked you got into it, and actually I was listening to your chat with Travis Pissrana, he was also a big hero of mine growing up. Sure, sure. I love two wheels and all that as well.

Oh, you do, you ride Marsicles? When I can, more off roads, just like mucking around, I love it, I'm not very good, but I love it. I'm pretty good on a track, but I'm not so great when I'm in the air, I'm a little nervous. You do a lot of track days, is that right?

Yeah, I had an episode recently, my first bag crashed, I've been doing track days for probably 16 years, and I had my first bag episode about four months ago, but we're back, we're back, we feel great. So we got some metal hardware, and it seems to be working great. Oh, with proper, proper, proper. Okay, so you're from Australia, and you got into racing carts when you were 9, and so you're dead race, yeah?

He did, it's one of the things I had in the blood, and I certainly got a lot of the attraction to cars and berating from him, but it was just because I think I was growing up with the kid on the weekends he was racing. It was just like a kind of hobby for him, the path of point, not being professional or anything, but I think just growing up around the racetrack, smelling the cars and the noise, the sound of the sea, I was just wrong to it. There's nothing sweeter than those cars, right? It's pretty good.

I wanted to make it to the cologne, I think. Oh, I want to say your mother's first one to say, if we made it as a cologne, it would obviously be a big hit. Track all the dudes and repel all the women, dream cologne. I guess what was important was that, you know, I think it's important just for a lot of, I mean, I'm not a parent, but I guess for a lot of parents, it's like supporting your kid, I guess is one thing, but also, you know, pushing them is obviously something completely different.

And although I grew up around, you know, racing and that, because it was bad, it was never, you know, I was just wrong to it. I loved it, and I was fascinated by it. I got a kick out of it because, you know, no one else at school was really racing. Like, I just thought it was the way for me to kind of stand out and do it as different.

And like, I thought that's the exciting thing. At least I'm guilty. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and I'll start with money to go.

No man has ever done anything in their life that wasn't ultimately about maybe attracting a gal. You started at nine, which is really encouraging. See, I'm in a very similar situation. I think as your dad, which is I have made enough money that I can do it recreationally, and I want my daughter more than anything to show.

So I'm interested in it. So I can just go all in on it. And I keep thinking, man, she's seven now. When's the cutoff of when I got to get her in a cart?

And I guess I was relieved to see that you started at nine. Is that a little late in general? I think these days, I mean, some kids start at like four or five. I guess you could say, I don't want to say too late, but it's not that earlier.

I'm always also a bit torn. I think you start something so young. Are you going to kind of fall out of love with it by the time you're 20 years old or something? I think he started maybe at like four, so you can do it.

That does not surprise me. I got to tell you, I'm not sure who's rivals and who's not. But I got to say, what keeps me so interested in F1 is you and Max. I love watching him and I love watching you because there seems to be, I hope you'll clear this up for me.

And I also don't even know what you're allowed to say. But what makes it really exciting is Mercedes just has this incredible, profound advantage. It's very obvious. Their car's the best.

Their team's the best. It's been four. I don't know. Eight years or something, but you would know.

So when you or Verstappen podium, to me, that just screams driver. And also what's really fun is all these teams are people that watch it. There's two cars in every team. So what that tells me is that Danny and Max can drive the shit out of those cars.

It makes it really exciting and heartbreaking because I'm like, why the fuck isn't Danny or Max in that number two Mercedes? Nothing against both of us. But just I want to see someone that can drive like Hamilton in the same car as Hamilton. I would argue this would kind of save F1 in that if you had two from the hip shooters, badasses like you or Max against Hamilton every weekend.

It would be so exciting. I mean, it would crash each other. It caused them a lot of money. But you guys are so exciting to see three of the premier drivers in the same car.

Yeah, absolutely. I love your passion for it. I don't get me wrong. We all think that.

The attraction is always trying to get to the best team knowing that there's a team that's better than another. That's kind of challenging itself. So it's kind of cool trying to chase that. But also there's a lot of times we're like, shit, we just wish we had the same equipment so we could just show what we believe we're all about.

Do you think NASCAR is better in that way? I would say so. I think it's a lot like a top team. But sure, there's a big spread through the field who I think could win.

Whereas you said, you know, the last, whatever, seven years, I think, you know, maybe since one probably 80% of the races. That's not that fault as well. Like they just done a better job. No, my hat is off to them.

That handsome son of a bitch who runs that team. On a horse selling polo cologne or something. I totally respect and applaud it. But I guess do you watch MotoGP at all?

I love it. It's my favorite. Because that's been my drug for the last 10 years. What about MotoGP is like, sure, the dukes are faster on the straightaway.

But you go to a track with not a lot of straightaway and more turns, tighter turns. Then the Amazon is going to be good that weekend. And then maybe another track that Hans is going to be. So even within some dominant teams, the bikes themselves do better at different tracks.

So it does equalize it a bit. I get to see the track. It's like far away the best car. Yeah.

So that one, I get back to that we have as a parallel. And I think it probably speaks to like all three circuits. So I guess a little brief education to make people listen to. So we have purposeful racetracks, which are like big and fast and flowing and quite open.

And we have one here in America, guys. Austin, we have a beautiful formula on track in Austin. And it's awesome. They're cool.

But there's also, you know, like margin for error, you know, there's an escape. There's like a gravel trap with all the wall. There's something, you know, you don't always pay for an escape. It's probably the easiest way to put it.

You can cross the line. You can push your car to the edge. You can exceed it. And you have some safe run off.

You're not risking your life by pushing to the limit. This is probably what you love about Travis was promising. Monaco is the only track that being nuts is an advantage. Like you can be crazy.

And that can make up for your gap in technical disadvantage. And Monica, I guess we won in 2018 in Monaco. Was it 18? Yeah.

Wow. Look at this smile on a bit. Look at that. You're right.

It does sound like you're just saying my name over and over and over. You love it. Monica, Monica. Monica's just cement came around next to you the whole time, right?

Yeah. It's kind of easier. It feels difficult to get it wrong. But it's easier for, you know, 20 of us to be kind of in that window, so to speak, where Monaco, it's like you can't go over the limit because you're in the wall, you know?

Yeah. Not only that, but it's so much more intimidating. So you've got like creep up to the limit. Because nobody can drive the car at 100% of its limit there, basically, right?

So no one's even maximizing the car's potential because it's just too dangerous. I wonder too. Tell me there's a way more visual stimuli too on that, right? Because you're blowing by buildings and stuff.

Like if you're in Austin, there's nothing to gauge your speed by. But I imagine in Monaco, you must feel like you are flying. Yeah. One of the biggest mistakes I made in Monaco is I've watched one of the practice sessions from, I don't know, maybe I was even in that one by that point.

But I remember standing on the side of the track. I saw the car go past and I was just, I was blown away by how fast they were on such a narrow type circuit. It was intimidating watching it because they'd gone around the building. I'm like, I don't think I can do that.

I don't think I can do that. But then once you get in, it kind of all feels like it's my comfort zone. So it's all okay. But it is intimidating.

And as you say, like there's so many, I guess the wall is so close in the barriers and everything is flashing past. It does feel faster. And because it's a street circuit, like it's bumpier. It's not purpose built.

So there's like the way the road is and the shape and the curve. It's more of a rally race. Yeah. It's marley.

It's cool. And is that the hardest track to pass on? Yeah. So that's the only like, I guess, downfall with the street circuit.

It does make the racing on the Sunday, sometimes a little, I'll say boring. It's so tight. But it's a lot easier to block and defend. And it's just hard to pass.

But the thrill of driving on a street circuit is like nothing else. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I got your dream about when you're just in traffic and you're like, fuck me, I wish I could just go one way down the city block.

I'm going to try to say a couple more things I think that could be really interesting people that aren't even interested in this. Right. So one of the things, Monica, not talking about the city yet, is so the car is built in the simplest term of the opposite of an airplane, right? So an airplane's wings give it lift.

It makes it lighter. Well, enough one car is all of its aerodynamics are making it virtually heavier. So it's creating all this downforce. And in fact, it's creating so much downforce it.

If you could imagine that while they were driving that, I don't know the numbers, you would know, but like 5560 miles an hour, just that. If the road were to turn completely upside down, the car could drive upside down. What? Because the car weighs a couple thousand pounds and it's creating 20, 300 pounds of downforce.

Those aren't the numbers, but something like that. Yeah. So Danny could pass you. You could be on the highway going 60, Monica.

You could look up through your sun roof and see sweetening smile. Oh, wow. I can't wait. Can we live like that?

This could be a trust solution to traffic. We could double decker them and we could have traffic driving upside down and then traffic driving right side down force. That's actually interesting. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you about the background.

I do not say that. I do not say that. I pretend I have a background in everything. Okay.

Now one more thing I want to explain to people and this is really impressive. So G-forces, if everyone can think about a G on planet Earth right now, the amount of gravity on us is called one G or at 1 ATM. So at 1 G, you are your body weight is right now. So for me, that's 190.

Thanks guys. So if I went to two G's, for some reason I was standing on a planet that had two G's, I would now weigh 380 pounds and so on and so forth. The cars are so high performance and they're so much downforce that these guys can hit five G's in turns. Wow.

Does that feel like in your body? Yeah. The human head's 30 pounds. Is that what it is?

You're probably dealing with stones or something. I'm thinking of the kid from Jerry McGlile. Yeah, exactly. I thought it was eight.

Because of that. The human head weighs is eight pounds. I've got a skull. I think it's way more like 20 to 25 to 30 pounds.

Maybe he's different to his head. He's a little boy. That's a little boy. Okay.

I'm going to Google that. Yes. Well. But we have then a helmet.

Okay. Okay. That's a pound or two. No, I'm going to say it's coming like four and a half pound, five pounds.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Now we're talking 20 pounds. Oh, God. So what I want everyone to imagine is you're laying on your side in your sleep and then you pick your head off the pillow and then Monica, who weighs on not Monica, Monica sits on your ear. She sits right under your ear and she lifts her legs off and you have to hold your head and not let it touch the pillow.

I'm going to go even worse. Let's say on the pillow there are spikes. And if you were to lower your head, you will be impaled through your ear because Monica's sitting on your ear and Monica. That is what the drivers are dealing with.

I don't know. Sometimes two or three of the turns. Her lap. And how many laps do we go?

We're doing 45, 50 or something. Depending on the race. Yeah. 90 minutes.

Oh my God. The next strain. Yeah. Look at that.

His neck is so girthy girls. He's neck. I've ever seen. So why you explain that?

It's actually really good. People are like, you know, these people says we hear it, but what does it actually mean? Am I trying to explain it? You know, the force that we have to hold and everything.

You know, the way you actually broke it down. I think that's much more labeled than you're trying to say. I'm going to speed through this corner. But it's true.

We need to be like super strong through our neck and also out all back to like all our like QL obliques all that part because even though we're like strapped in and the seats are molded to us, we still, you know, you can't get away from that force. You know, you still get everything through it. So the seat might support you a little bit, but you still have to hold on basically. So your whole body doesn't just push over.

Even your liver now that weighs a few pounds, that thing's in your body moving to the left or right. And now it weighs 12 pounds. You know, every single thing in your body is being pulled and it now weighs five times what it would normally weigh. Has anyone exploded?

Well, sadly, yes. But not from G forces. Oh. I can see someone's spleen definitely exploding.

Well, I'll get dark kind of history of that part formula. Why don't they used to be the technology and the thought behind it was make the cars stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger. And they had a year or two when they were still racing Nurburgring where they were building these cars just out of complete steel. So when they hit anything, they hit a guardrail or each other, the car didn't absorb any of the energy and five, six drivers a year were dying from impacts.

And that's when they started realizing, oh, we need some crumple zones. We need some areas that can absorb all this energy. So now his car is designed like a honeycomb, basically. It's got all these ways for it to compact and absorb energy.

So it doesn't transfer to his body. I need to get you on a race team back. Please ask me. I will come with you to all these exotic locations.

I'll help you enjoy the scenery and I'll do press with you. Just to be able to focus on the sport and detail is beautiful. Okay. So here's the other thing I found really, really impressive about you guys after watching that docuseries, which everyone should watch.

It's so good. People, even that don't care about racing, I've turned them on to it and they love it because again, the personalities are so fun. This is a 80 hour week job. It's not a practice Friday, qualify Saturday, race Sunday, the amount of physical conditioning you have to do, your diet, you have trainers, you have certain hand-eye coordination, things you guys do.

Can you walk me through your like schedule to stay fit enough to get in that car? Yeah, sure. So basically, I'll go through like pre-season and I think like a lot of sports, it's your time where you've got, let's say, least commitments of marketing or travel basically and it's your time to get fit for the year ahead. So for us, that's kind of like January, February.

So, through that time, I guess I'm training six days a week, two sessions a day and it's about being obviously being like strong but having a lot of strength and endurance because the race is long and we don't have to be like powerlipses but we need to maintain good strength over a quarter of nine minutes. So yeah, we have to also be very light. So we can't afford to put too much muscle on. Oh.

Yeah. So like, I weigh 70 kilos, which I want to say, I think if I won 55 or something. 158, yeah, yeah. 2.2, yeah.

Okay. You operate well in the morning. I'm trying to get you over. My hand is in an anco.

I'm putting my best foot forward. Stay tuned for our next group if you dare. Yeah. So we have to be very light.

So we need like a balance of like some strength and endurance but also like a lot of cardiovascular so a lot of running cycling. 2. Obviously has good endurance to last the race but also I think with cardio comes a lot of heart rate, more attention can be put towards your concentration and not fading towards the end of the race. So basically six days a week when we have a free schedule but now during the season, especially if we have like a back-to-back race to one race after the other in six days a weekend, I mean the Monday after race, you're pretty flat so it kind of a rest day, maybe Tuesday you get up and do a little bit of like cardio, Wednesday you're already traveling to the next race.

So maybe Wednesday you might do some next training just to keep your neck kind of switched on and then Thursday marketing, sponsor self engineering meetings, strategy meetings, and yeah. So it's not like we just we race at 2 p.m. Sunday and leave, it's like every day we're there at probably 7.30 in the morning and we leave at 8.30 in the evening, there's lots of meetings and I think it takes place over the course of the race weekend. So it's a lot to ask for someone to be like completely focused on this job that again only 20 people on the planet are doing and to do it at such a level and then to go like sell the donuts every 45 minutes and then also the press I noticed which is kind of fascinating.

I feel like Formula One's unique in this. The press is so adversarial. So when you were with Red Bull, it's really fascinating, Red Bull team was not happy with the motors that Renol was supplying and so every interview with Renol or Red Bull they're trying to start this fight. How disappointed are you in the Renol motors?

And then everyone's just on the spot. And then they'll say even like, any like, what couple more of those races and you're probably not going to get right next year, huh? That's the question. It's like, you suck and you're probably out of a job.

How do you feel about that? It's so right? It's really adversarial. Yeah.

How do you do yourself like light and not get boned by all that? It can be brutal. And I think fortunately for me, I'm very like maybe just growing up in Australia, like closer to the beach. I'm just kind of relaxed either going and I don't take things too seriously, I guess, and I guess that's tough.

It's like, I know that maybe there'll be something, you know, comment or a question which might not say, but it's whatever. I guess I can brush it off and not take it to heart, but you have to be like that because yeah, if you can't kind of let something go, I mean, again, you've got to say all your energy performance and if things are consuming you and taking away from you, what you need to do and you're not going to survive in this sport. So yeah, I think one of the best things that I've got when I started was I just don't read anything. You know, don't read the racing websites.

Don't read anything comments, interviews. That's just, yeah. I want to consider it in a real life though. Let's say that you're in an ad agency and you go pitch the client and you are terrible.

You fuck it up. You know, after that, you're worst day at work. You walk straight on the channel to evening news and they sit there and go like, wow, how do you screw up that bad? That's terrible.

Like, your worst moment personally now is put in front of this viewing audience over a hundred million people who now gets to relish in your failure. I mean, I guess people would say like, yeah, but you have the best job in the world. So I guess that's one way to say it. But yeah, just the notion of having to be ridiculed about already a terrible, terrible outcome in day seems uniquely cruel.

With that, if it's performance related, say five, you know, how to ship race, then I guess I'm prepared for, you know, those sort of interviews, questions or scrutiny as I guess you can call it. I think the hard thing is the media is that I guess you could probably see it a bit on drive to survive. But, you know, so we finished a race. You know, as I said, we literally come out of the car, we're sweating, we're exhausted.

We jump straight on to a scale, we get laid because we have to control that like obviously to make sure we're not underweight and getting advantage. So jump out of the car, straight to the scale, take the helmet off, add a quick drink, and then we're literally straight into the media. So from like the checker flag to our first interview, it's probably less than five minutes. Like so.

So I got shifting gears mentally. Yeah, it's fun. But I guess these are the things that everyone sees. And I guess that's cool with the series.

And so you don't even really need to like rating, but it's just like, it just kind of, I think brings an audience that at least makes them understand a little bit more about the sport and probably appreciate I guess everything that's involved in, not just even with the drivers, but with mechanics with engineers, like the whole circus is just, it's wild. I get conditioning. It sounds probably like high reps and lower weights and all that stuff. But what's the diet?

So it's really done by my trainer as well, Michael, so he'll kind of set up my training programs and then help out with the diet. But I also had quite a bit of education on that when I first moved to Europe to kind of really take this seriously. I had to work for that. When you moved into the Gucci store in Monaco, I basically weren't like quite a bit of it early on.

And yeah, I mean, the biggest thing is for us to just make sure that we stay on weight. But yeah, I mean, fortunately, I like my veggies and greens and all that sort of stuff. So I'm not too bad. I don't have to watch it too much.

I think I've got to wait to. But I'm pretty disciplined. You know, I've got like a target then I'm pretty good. Well, I know you're a NASCAR fan.

I've got to watch it. Dale Earnhardt probably our most famous other Richard Petty. Oh, he's got a three on his. Oh, that's great.

That's great. So Dale Earnhardt is second only Richard Petty. I know his name. And he's the Intimidator, right?

He was epic. Now in that era of NASCAR, right? You had Dick Trickle smoked cigarettes while he raised. He had like a little fucking thing built in for an ashtray.

Some guys were like 48 pounds overweight. 70 pounds overweight. Many of them still broke from the night before. Like the difference between what you guys do and what they were doing in the 70s and 80s.

It's just it's comical. I love it. It's crazy. Do you follow across as well?

Motocross. Yes, just recently. They followed the curve of everyone else. Okay.

So for you, when you're heading up to a race. race weekend you've landed in I'm even gonna make a place up there's no race there but you've landed in Ibiza for the big race and you got there on Tuesday when do you have to stop drinking not for any of the regulations but just for you to feel like you're gonna be prime on race day Thursday night at 4 a.m. Don't get me wrong I'm not a big drinker and it's not like I'm like I had like a beer or a glass of wine before race but it's not something I would do if I had it all it's only the weekend probably haven't gone too well and I just need to like just switch off for a little bit but typically if everything's going to plan which it has this year I guess you're probably right yeah probably a Wednesday but again that's not like going out to a club one day night it's like yeah maybe having a little a little conniac or something good I'm pretty disappointed like I enjoy having a good time but I guess race week I'm pretty sure well you're Australian you know I went twice to Afghanistan to do us so tours like entertainment troops and soon as I got there every American G I was like you got to get invited to an Australian barbecue because all the Canadian and American troops don't drink in Afghanistan to honor the country they're in and the Australians are like fuck that and they get two beers and then they figure out a compile other guys take it so you can get proper drunk on the Australian base so I'm just saying you come by honestly it'd be disrespectful to your homeland if you didn't drink sometimes I'm sorry I'm very favorite of it okay how about sex you know some athletes here in the States like quarterbacks and stuff they won't fuck the weekend of do you have any sex rules like when you I used to but not anymore so I kind of I went against obviously my rules once and I was probably better on Sunday so it's all good I threw that one out a few years ago you get a superstitious like our baseball players in our you know you don't wear a special goalie underwear that you podiumed in or anything no I'm pretty anti superstition cuz I'm like I feel it's fine if you're in a way but it's not my fear but I put you bring down in your own head already and it's kind of like an excuse for something to go wrong you know it's like it's easy to have a lack of accountability if you've got a position because you know I have a bad race and then I'm like oh because I didn't put my laptop on first I might rush off the reality of why I had a bad race you know because I didn't put my phone on the right way so yeah I don't like it I don't like it and if you like it that was my tradition without my tradition and I forgot to do it and I'm jumping in a car that's going to a mile an hour you know exactly my headspace so you can't have anything like this cripping in mind I feel that that's great that's I like that now if you had to assign a percentage to it what percentage currently is the car and what percentage is the driver that's a good question we do get asked that time they normally make a comparison like MotoGP and if one you know it's a 75 I can it's a 70 car 30 driver and by the way it must change so the percentage for Williams you know it's got to be really low the car so I guess it does change but yeah in your best estimation yeah I'll say it's probably 70 30 70 car 30 driver but a bit the best way to kind of say it is like so I mean I'll use more to the example because he's won the last few championships and he's most likely gonna win this one so he's obviously a very good contestant for being the best driver on the grid with these results and records but let's be honest he's in contention to be considered the best driver of all time right just tied my shoe markers most wins in the history of Formula One exactly so he's as good as his credentials are he is not gonna win this weekend if he's driving as you say a little something else so that the cars do have a big enough difference to have that effect you know that's bad so yeah it's probably 70 30 it's just so hard to have them to answer another thing I want to explain to people because this is so unique to this sport which is well they have some practice sessions on Friday but in Saturday they go out and they have a few different qualifying rounds and they're not long how long is qualifying so it's an hour in total and it's between three sessions and it's kind of like a knockout so the first I think it's 18 minutes five drivers get eliminated for the one five you know in the next one I'm a 15 minutes another five and in the last I think it's 12 minutes is top 10 so you have 12 minutes to go out there and in general formula lap times are just under two minutes between a minute 40 and two minutes right so you have 12 minutes to go run the fastest lap you possibly can't and they'll run a lap that's faster than often ever gets reached in the race right so if they're all out going for broke the fastest of push the car and then based on that result that's how they'll start the race and formula more than any other racing there's so little passing especially monically if you get whole position your odds of winning that race have gone up so dramatically and moving up from 50 it's just not gonna happen or seventh or whatever unless there's some crazy shit in the pits but the amount of pressure to qualify is so steep and the stakes are so high and then I'll add what is the difference generally in a lap time between pole position and eighth place it's never more than a second right I want to say call it a second yeah call it a second and probably across the whole field it yeah two seconds so like a 156 pole position and 158 you're fucking in the caboose but then okay so with that and with the fact that 70% is the car is it just like well there's nothing I can like I feel so defeated from the get go like what's the point so that's like you've always got your own let's say battle and so your best references your teammate so there's you know there's ten teams but only two cars are the same you know only one team can provide the same equipment so your teammate is your biggest reference so even if you're coming qualifying 10th if your teammate qualifying 18th then you look like a superstar like you look like a hero because everyone's like okay you're doing something special with that car so yeah exactly and that's giving you then a better chance to probably get a better contract with a team to give you a faster car so I know what you mean like it is kind of weird and everyone wants to win but sometimes you've got your own little internal battle which can kind of move you up a little which again then creates this unavoidable crazy dynamic that all teammates are basically the biggest rival of the year because he's not really competing against loose Hamilton there's no way he's gonna pull position him he doesn't have the car too so really his teammate that you're traveling with and spend the most amount of time with is the one you're probably aiming to destroy the hardest right which is so weird so you have really good friendships that kind of got put to the test or ended from that dynamic yes it happens more like pre-up one though like drivers you know like a thing is really like 1718 and like even if I was in Europe you know like you have a sleepover with you know like a teammate you know if you're racing in like you see because a lot of them are from Europe so if you're racing in Paris it's like yeah well you know you can come and crash at my house and that but then you know the season goes on and you just find for a championship and there's no more sleepovers just a lot of parties I think I've got a hospital I'll tell you this household on the road it's not too far yeah it's such a weird one because it's like it's teammate but I mean I think there's team respect in a teammate but a lot of the time I make turns into not eight but it's a serious rivalry and then you can make a break a career like if my teammate this year beat me you know 20 races to zero then my career is probably done there's a lot of mine and a teammate can make you look really good I really feel like so it's the way that tension is interesting to compile natural drama there's often I think the best example of it correct me if I'm wrong but when you and Max were racing for Red Bull that's probably the best pairing of two drivers ever on the same team where they're both crazy good and they're in the same car and what happens and happens was they fuck each other they crash into each other so they fuck the whole team and now the whole team's mad at now and then you could be a whole team is just empty right? Well Red Bull the people paying $500 and watches both their cars have been out of control right because these local heads are competing against all each other right why do you stay there I wish you would have stayed there so bad because that was so juicy because again I just want to play one other dynamic for Monica is that in a case like Mercedes you have Loose Hamilton and Botos so Loose Hamilton is gonna win and everyone's incentivized for him to win and there could be races where Botos could be asked to drive a certain way to get him up and sometimes they'll go just race fly out you hear everything on the radio by the way which is so fun and guys are frustrated their cars failing and they're yelling at the pit and the pit trying to calm them down and say don't swear on the radio you know it's just all happening and then they're telling them by the way we're gonna pit this guy first which is an advantage which is gonna fuck you over because they're better off getting this guy that might eventually finish the whole season 6 so that's happening too right yeah there's a lot going on and I guess going back to Monica I saw your reaction when you said I was only two in the team but so say Red Bull I mean I'll use that example so when it was me and Max so yeah we had a crash in one race but working for this team and these two cars you're talking like 800 people it might be more might be close with thousands like say between 600 and a thousand people are working per team so it's like it's crazy it's not like you just got the guy that puts the fuel in the guy that changes the tires it's like a freaking army of people per team so it's crazy there's a lot of responsibility I guess and it's hard to kind of rationalize that as well and when you're racing and it's like with those numbers at the team sport but it's such an individual sport and behind the wheel you're in for yourself and yeah it's hard to like weigh everything up and be composed I guess it's a point when you're obviously seeing red and in some way does both of us have the worst job in Formula 1 because how do I say this he's doing awesome right I'll probably finish second in the points or third or something but he'll also be accused of just having a car that's perfect and of course it'd be a failure if he wasn't second or third and yeah he's never gonna be expected to win it's just a very it's it's own weird prison it's almost like this curse of a silver metal they talk about I almost feel bad for him I don't but I completely say what you mean and it's somewhat true but it's also and I'll use both of us because you have not like I don't want to take directly out of the game but you know he also has I think the way the season has turned a lot of the time with him and Lewis is you know at some point in the season a team that's probably start favoring the lead driver to secure you know the championship or you know to protect weight as a lead but at the start of the season normally it's all the playful so there's no these kind of let's say favors don't come in to later so okay so it's a meritocracy at the beginning of the season for sure yeah so it's like I guess the opportunity for him to put him in that position is there and obviously the last few years Lewis has got better on it but again if he doesn't win that car of course it's like if you finish a second it's a failure and I know he's like well my team make one so I haven't I haven't exceeded him so you've got the best equipment but yeah if you don't make the most of it then it does look like a failure so it's tough one but obviously we all want to try and quit off in that position and see if we can do it okay I have a couple more questions you're gonna like for a cognac are you you can also bring a cognac while we do this yeah don't don't let it I'm all talk I've got a lemongrass and ginger food okay how on earth do you rebound mentally from a shitty qualifying or less than you practice on Friday you pointed out which is great on these tracks where you can find limits just to go through kind of the mechanics of it manga talking to you they're approaching a turn and they have breaking points so they might break let's say a hundred feet out on day one practice and then go I'm gonna break it 90 feet I'm gonna break it 80 feet I'm gonna break it 70 feet out and they markers next to them and so eventually they'll break it 30 feet and fly off the track and go okay I gotta break it 35 feet now as you said that really can't be done in Monte Carlo or Street races which is fascinating you can't exceed it and pull back but so you go out you practice and you learn some stuff and then you go qualifying out if you should qualify shitty you've really got to reset your brain for Sunday and it must be a spiral it must be totally defeating and so how do you bounce back do you have an actual strategy does it differ or how do you clean your head and start over on Sunday I think all of us would love to know how to shake off a shitty day a good question I think really if I haven't performed well again it kind of just goes back to like addressing it and trying to you know probably diving through the data to my homework that evening and until I've understood you know where I went wrong where I went wrong or where myself and the engineer went wrong you know setting the car up so you know obviously try to find some like closure in that and so I think that's the biggest thing is I think for everyone like you have to identify the problem yeah exactly and you know you can't just walk away and expect that you know that I'm gonna rise tomorrow and yes it might be but over the course of the year you know it's not gonna happen week and week out and then you have to sample and address it and figure out you know what you can do better so and then once I'm kind of at ease with where we've gone wrong then yeah I'll just go like I'll get back to the hotel and I'll switch off and I'll put a movie on or just try to like reset and get my mind fresher tomorrow and I think with that it's probably not even more like in racing it's hard you know I don't know it's not really applied to an office situation or anything but conditions change all the time so maybe I did crap on Saturday but Sunday maybe the track is 5 degrees warmer and maybe my setup is just gonna work better so like you can always convince yourself that the next day is gonna be better we're gonna be different because these cars are so sensitive that the likelihood of it changing is fairly likely that is relevant what you're really doing I think is you're anchoring hope into something you're anchoring some optimism into something so you might decide that that that's the five degree temperature change or that it rained in the morning the tracks cleaner or whatever these things are you could maybe lock in to just hope so that you have some optimism when you get behind the wheel yeah you've done it before I was really good well I got to say I raced there's nothing like being strapped into that car with the Hans on you can't move your head it's hot is fucking Hades I didn't have a cooling suit it's loud as hell it's so chaotic and it's so antithetical to concentrating on where you're breaking where you're turning in all this stuff you know it's a pretty overwhelming for me at least calm before the storm that's the worst parts of the car starts moving then I don't care but all that lead up is just brutal I think same I race off road to same thing like the lead up is insufferable and once you're going like oh I know what I need to do here but if you come to get peaceful with that or is it always just like oh let's just our yeah I couldn't agree more with that feeling in terms of once you get going okay but the build-up could even ask any not this year with COVID but normally we're getting like interviewed on the grid just before the race like it's so much I get chaos and this is really much time for us to actually get to our fails before the race you know so it's kind of a do you meditate I don't meditate per se but I put music on and I go through like a routine of like kind of like dynamic stretching and I do my own form but it's not specific meditation I guess but it's like it does get me in the zone I'm gonna make a recommendation please I worship Howard Stern and Howard Stern really loves trans-metal meditation so I decided to get trained in it it takes an afternoon if that and you get given a mantra and now when I'm in those situations like I race the utv world championship last year and on the grid I just do my mantra and I got to say it's so good for me if just like I can block everything out I get aware of my breathing it really helps me get back into that calm thing just a mantra okay all right I'm gonna get involved because I think that's another thing with like with anything I think in life I have to be maybe what I've been doing has worked in the last five years but you know maybe it's trying to change it up you know and you have to be open to like learning evolving and trying something new and I think with a sport as well that's constantly moving forward you know technology and that's like maybe my driving style isn't gonna work next year so I need to adapt and maybe I don't want to hear it but maybe my teammate is gonna do something better so I need to learn from him but yeah okay that's cool yeah I give it a shot if you start winning next year you're moving to clarin right McLaren yeah so if you start like podium every race and McLaren because you got it mantra I'm gonna just really feel excited all right I'll shout you out on the podium I'll be like what do you need to say who's that okay great this came up with Travis too is it hard for you to have personal relationships when you I think it's probably hard for any athlete to have personal relationships when you're so dedicated to something it's a big big time consuming endeavor but also you are in a dangerous time consuming endeavor and do you think that puts pressure on personal relationships or stops people from getting close to you because they're afraid and part of that question she's up for the challenge okay go ahead myself so it's only is like difficult I think when you're so driven towards something and it's like because me for example like yes I've made it to F1 like that was a childhood dream and even I feel pinched myself but you know you get there and it's like making it's not enough you know I need to win I need to be well champion so I've won races now but I'm yet to become a little champion so I'm still not satisfied you know I've been doing this just like myself you know 10 years though like I'm constantly looking for more from it and yet putting myself first and I guess being selfish so it is difficult and you do have to shut things out along the way and that's obviously people and relationships so you know it's fine that balance I know sometimes you know I married with kids and even that I'm like how do you do this with a family I'm like you know there's as you say that the kind of danger with the sport the one side and then just dedicating everything you can to the sport but also like dedicating time to your family I'm not there yet I don't know how I can manage that so I'm still like it's in the kind of moment I'm just trying to really get the most out of me and I think what I'm doing is working so I'm like I'm just gonna keep going down the path and then I'll wait a while for kids I think I just imagine being in a hotel in race morning and like I get my breakfast and Christmas like why don't you order me a matcha you know I like matcha and it's an insane fight over a matcha and then leaving yeah that would be hard like I need like such boundaries if I were you like I'm sorry but Friday either you're nice to me or you have to get back you can't do your job if you're in a fight or if you're not focused yeah obviously if you're in a relationship you want to have yeah I mean you want to be able to properly and care and love and be there for that person so if you don't feel like you're capable of entering that place then yeah it's best to probably just be a bit of a mutant for a while yeah and just be honest with people up front like I'm a shitty boyfriend Thursday to Sunday every weekend I'm pretty cool I'm also like dedicated and I get a serious of an intense before is I feel consider myself pretty like pretty chill need to go in but yeah I wanted to go back to one thing on the grid I just wanted to touch on something so we're going through like he'll put my music on whatever and once the race gets going yeah like everything kind of balances out so like the build up is and it's probably for a lot of sports like a hundred a sprint it's like when you're on the starting line like that's I'm sure that the most hard stressful moments for the athletes so I've gone through a few things over the years and actually one of my trainers a few years ago it was like enjoy this moment like being on the grid you know seeing the crowd right there like hearing the anthem like seeing this chaos try and find some enjoyment in it because it's also a privilege like you've got to compete and do something on the world stage enjoy this moment don't wish it passes and don't wish that you're you know I'm back to over the race already like try and take it in and use it as field you know and medics like you that was one thing which is really cool and then I think for our race you know the start is so important and you know 20 cars going into the first corner it's so intense and it can make or break your race you know if you gain positions or lose maybe that's what you finish so I also just got the point where I'm like you know from here to the first five corners it's probably 45 seconds I'm like just be in the moment and present and ruthless for 45 seconds that's your race yeah wow and then you can get into your rhythm but I'm like as long as you are strong for that you good yeah yeah you gotta be honest acid for 45 seconds yeah which is like which is nothing when you think about it so if you think like I've got 90 minutes now it's battle and this and that and strategy it's like no just break it down to that first moment I like that a lot of things in life like people do look too far down the road and it's like just go through a step I said like little things will get you a big reward you know like even when it goes it's like I'm gonna get it for another 10 years it's like well you don't start today it's gonna take you longer so just step by step yeah okay one thing I just want to point out it is uniquely cruel and uniquely human that you want to get to Formula One you're one of 20 best drivers in the world I just want to add for context 14 people won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2019 so you're almost as unique as a Nobel Peace Prize winner now you get there and you're like oh I've dreamed of this I'm in Formula One that was last 30 seconds because now you're like I got to get on McLaren Red Bull or then Ferrari so now within this 20 years with that that's what I meant to say thank you you're really paying attention to this like hallowed ground you get admitted to Harvard you get whatever this insane dream is you arrive and then immediately you must recognize well now within this 20 I actually got to get to one of those six seats Mercedes Ferrari Red Bull back then it's so cruel so now really been you know refined to six spots which is really three because three of the drivers aren't gonna be the good whatever it just doesn't end isn't that life and not even the cruelest example of it like there's no arriving there's no pat yourself on the back unless you're Lewis Hamilton yeah honestly blows my mind like it's not only 20 of us in the world like you think how many soccer players there are in the world and it's like we're talking and it's yeah it's a 20 f one drive more than 20 rock stars there's more than 20 movie stars there's more than 20 everything yeah we're gonna have 20 Supreme Court justices when the Democrats went inside joke yeah it's a good job it's a good job but you're right you're right and it's like things are never gonna be I guess like easy or the part is never gonna be that clear all that perfect so that's why like I try I do travel to races like I try to enjoy the journey as well I know it sounds cliché but you have to because I also don't know you know it's gonna end like maybe I'll get a new teammate next year and he's gonna kick my house and then no one's interested in me anymore how about I go to McLaren with you to secure that you will be dominant but you're so right you're kind of expressing something that I would pray that you have embraced yeah absolutely I think now because I'm I don't want to say I'm old I don't want to be like I'm 31 so I've been doing f one 10 years so it's I think I'm a little wise but aged out so I just I understand a bit of my perspective and all of that and it's so true like yes I want to be well champion and I'm doing everything I can and I feel safe here today believing that that will happen but if it all ended today I think I've still had a pretty awesome time and it's like yeah it's been such a privilege to be able to be one of these 20 and to do it and be wanted as well like you know teams want to want me to find me so I'm in a position so yes there's been more I'm after but like sometimes you just have to appreciate the position you're in when you select what team you're gonna go to what percentage are you driven by financial should your teams are gonna offer you more money I have to assume they would have to how much are you weighing your future economic security versus you know what I raised them or Sadie's for free I want to win so to be in the position to win is still priority number one right I get to get the point as well when you know when you value yourself and you know kind of what you're worth or what you bring to the table so you know if Sadie said yeah you can have the winning card but we're not gonna pay you part of me's like well this is what I want because yes I'm gonna have a chance to win and whatever but they're not paying me so well I know I'm worth more than that I know I'm worth more than that I know what happened you'd say yes and you grow more and more resentful every race you want so in that theme to me you know more than me tell me if I'm wrong it appears from the outside at least this season that the second chance a driver could have would be to be on whatever the force India team became what do they call now Bw racing point racing point yeah because they last year's Mercedes right yeah wouldn't your best bet be to drive for that team why don't you go there I just love how I was like you've got that you've got that right so it's easy at the moment it's still the top and it's gonna be tough for them to get beat in the next year rules are changing in 2022 basically Mercedes the door shut they keep being Lewis and I'm not that's okay what's next 20 million contracts just before the season started starting confusing but last year McLaren made the biggest step like they went nowhere to being you know like getting a podium and doing quite well so you kind of look at you want to look at tomorrow but sometimes you have to look at next week and they're doing something really quite impressive I think so McLaren for me has like the most promise I'm moving forward and I was like I talked to them in the past and there's like they don't think quite a good I would say level of like understanding respect between myself and the team and then me and I was like this is like the right time to go there so you kind of go like look forward I think as you're like racing point I think they're also doing something pretty impressive they're gonna be called after Martin next year I think it is but yeah McLaren was speaking to me speaking my language okay this is the other one oh good it's a logistical one so this is only 20 does ever happen where someone's a mate like should definitely be one of those 20 but just the way it works out where these people are in contracts and they just never get a chance that's a really good question I'm impressed I'm gonna go thank you I'm really listening hard at 730 in the morning if you move to Monaco and Monica live in Monte Carlo it's almost too cute I think it's like this is like a rom-com we'll just change our recording schedule to Thursday through Sunday so you'll want to know you'll want him to fuck off to you like the fuck I'm gonna go to the racetrack I gotta concentrate on that wait you're really good question was do people ever not get the shot yeah I'm sure like because it's such a small number of drivers making it in F1 like there is I'm sure that you're like you're going up the door you're like the shoe knockers that never were and you know the sentence but you know what I've referred to my gym so you know whether it's I mean whether it literally there's no place on the grid you know contractual for I think though there will always be an opening you know maybe just the driver like an extra year or something but yeah like I'm sure there's been a lot of talent coming up through junior categories but maybe like didn't have you know the right sponsors financial backing to kind of push them to that next step or be recognized but yeah so I'm sure there is cases where there is other talent to drive us outside of Formula one absolutely but yeah it's saying that I feel like at some point you will get recognized you will get your opportunity so it's not 100% proof well all this stuff that's happening in Formula one's happening in Formula two and Formula three and Formula four right so there's drivers that are sometimes great but they're not on the right team so everything's happening at all strategies that's happening here as well yeah okay so it sounds to me correct me if I'm wrong you too but we're probably gonna go to Austin next year hang out right that sound right we'll get some barbecue and shit honestly often is like I should I should be like part of the awesome community I don't know what it's called I'm sorry the table I'm so in love it all my country yeah I'm going to see something there every hour of every day it's the best but the rate is cool any event is open so yes everything is back to all the 21 please come out yes okay my last question is really just for me so how mechanically savvy do you have to be in order to help you get the car where it needs to be there's a two-part question or is it that the telemetry and the GPS and all the things all the gizmos now are they actually better at telling you like who's telling who now who's leaving like how do you get the car set up how does that work and how much do you have to understand mechanically you have to kind of be an engineer to tell your car and I'm glad you asked this question all right so I have gifts but not all of them okay basically my friends like my friends back home would know more about economy like if we broke down on the side of the road like they're gonna fix it I'm just gonna sit there and be like yeah cool I'm not playlist that'll be a connection exactly so I couldn't sit here and explain to you how a little one car works you know how the engine runs the cylinders and sparkle and fill that sort of stuff like that's not me I do get teased for it by my friends and not but I don't actually need that because yes there is specialist in the team who make sure it's running so I don't need to know how the engine works but I what drives I think what we really need to do that is feedback so dissecting what we feel in words and sharing that with the team so they've got the data the telemetry but at the end of the day like where the biggest piece of data so I think I'm very good at I'm very sensitive I have very good feeling and that's where I have my asset of okay the car it's you know I go through this corner I think the suspension at the rear need to just think because I'm feeling like it's not really coming from the front thing I'm gonna bore you but you're not gonna bore me like I'm kind of curious like when you go like oh turn seven I'm a little bit understeer for some reason like I have oversteer nine and I'm understeer in seven is that the kind of feedback you'll give yeah so that's like that's kind of the basic of it so yeah okay so yeah 10-7 I'm struggling with the front I have understeer you know maybe like I was a basic driver will say that basic understanding we'll just get basic comments oversteer understeer but then it's like okay but I think I'm getting understeer because we're too stiff at the front the front spring and then the brake buyers is a little out like again I'll bore you but there's so many things that we could break it down to and then so we could find the understeer through yeah the setup basically that we're missing so yeah because like an understeer it could come from yeah suspension settings it could come from aerodynamics from yeah I don't force on the front or exactly so like I think that's where I feel I'm good is really understanding where the car is lacking what part of the car is weak yeah and what about braking do you ever have like breaking feedback like can they do anything about braking yeah absolutely so we have like obviously about the braking system you know we can move the bias so we can put more percentage on the front axle than the rear but also we can adjust the shape so like when we hit the brake you have maybe 60% at the front and 40 at the rear but then as you like decrease the pressure then that shifts and then you get like 50-50 or like the shape can help like adjust the balance through the corner so there's like there's so much but also like if you're left right as well so if you're most courses are generally way more right turns than left correct most of them are because you're going clockwise general clockwise clockwise so you make it right turns then left so it seems like it'd be advantageous if you're making right turns to have maybe more braking on the left front gonna go there as well I see what you're saying and I know I think it all racing they do that I like to bring cars on that but no because basically because the system is selfish and because we hit up with so much force if one side working more than the other it's gonna pull yeah pull the car yeah that was a dumb question I mean I'm in there as I would yeah but yeah it's like you have to if you need to have a good understanding of feeling and also if the team make a change you know if okay well we've gone two steps in the rear spring and you go to three laps you need to come back and tell the team what that did what you felt if it was better okay might be better in the fast corners but actually the flow corners it lost me some traction because bouncing a bit too much so this is what I think is where I make up for not telling you how to race cars built all together are you Tom Cruz and days of under basically I don't know that shit means I don't know what you tell me is it lose here I don't know what it means I just want to go fast through the smoke that bit well Danny I am counting down the minutes till I watch you race this Sunday and again next year after the TM when you're on the podium I'll expect a shout out we're gonna come see you in Austin and that's that and we're flatter do you want to talk to us thanks guys it was really good to chat thank you for having me I think it was awesome thank you thank you we're gonna see you in Austin it's really gonna happen all right awesome how are you like what what does that what does that mean oh oh like I was 5 11 5 11 what 18 feet tall okay that's great that's great that's great I just want to know where I'm gonna look up right now okay so we're good all right man good luck this weekend all right okay and now my favorite part of the show the fact check with my song I was a little nervous like can you just walk what if I just walk in there to pick up a brand I know I didn't have to give me a birthday though I was grateful to know that I know your birthday I almost texted it he knows it yeah I do 824 87 just crossed my mind that it's it I mean it has to be people are home laid up but also it seems crazy you can just walk in there kind of saying they don't know of course they know when I say Kristin I was speaking of her medicine to yeah that's obvious I'm a husband right then I go and I go yeah and then they just go search on the wall I know but also like I could probably go into writing and be like Brad Pitt and look at his birthday easily we that's very known everyone knows it everyone knows it I know but it's not you know my uncle is it all right the simulation but you don't think you know right you're just yes I guess what do you think you know I guess December 18 is you can't record like me doesn't say oh my god wait currently is intern 57 yeah damn god he's hot fucking a face okay oh you it's overwhelming and I look like him too it's weird like I'm on a track I've already told this but you think you look like it too there's been like there's an episode of where I was wearing a wig and glasses and I was like I look like a ugly version of him and also I'm gonna wear like a cabbie cap cabbie cap you know I'm gonna do these cap yeah I'm like I'm like Brad again not gonna be version of it just I look like I'm like this is a tricky this is like you're in a hole yeah and I certainly don't want sound like I'm fishing for you to say I look like Brad Pitt well I think you do look like oh my god but I think this came up remember Lauren thought I was Brad Pitt who's Lauren Graham she thought you were oh yes you drove in and she like wave and then she got nervous I was like why did she rolling her window down and I walked up to her window and then she rolled down she and then she started dying laughing she was okay I thought you were right there I was like oh my god what a wonderful thing to say yeah that's like I guess if someone mistook me for okay there's no one all right look at me no don't cross your head don't do your character from the middle mic don't do metal mic just look at me oh wow if you face you up okay oh besides miniature mouse oh yeah I guess miniature mouse I'm walking down this way oh my god it's so crazy I thought you were really mad oh my god you look at me oh my god you don't you just they're bling I don't really uncomfortable you don't mean are you okay we don't think about your face I'm just saying my face is it looks so different smiling from straight yeah from neutral really yeah so it's neutral I'm like I'm picking up you don't do this I even I even discovered that the girl from stranger things looks just like it was a hard yet Tom Wilkinson yeah in that LeBron James and actually look at the same so I'm naturally quite good at this but right about the time I'm dying in your neutral face then you start laughing and then it's a hold it and then let me try to get it okay oh my god what do you keep saying oh my god because you look like a puppy staring at why like a frank we'll just get like a cartoon puppy with big eyes yeah yeah I look like Brad Pitt I think you more look more like Jonathan Brad Pitt really oh I don't okay so good I look like that you're gonna do your Tom Wilkinson okay I get it well this is part of the thing I'm always complimenting you on is that you look very original because I think it's a cool thing so look okay look at me again look at me again I just want to say that it didn't help my mouth is I don't think it's a weird thing so you know my um you know my theory my aren't your theory about attraction tell me tell me that you are attracted to people who have something facially that's similar to you okay you can start seeing it in couples when they've been a long time I know there's yeah I don't think that's it I think it's deeper than I think you actually are attracted to people who share some similarity in your there would be an evolutionary aspect of this which is I said on your before that the only homogeneous group that's not attracted to themselves is redheads like you're a track even I don't think it's in um friendships but like you are physically attracted to Brad Pitt you get a boner form sometimes don't get a boner form oh I get butterflies for sure yeah I get major butterflies for him but not owners right but you I'm open to a boner form I just you might get one sometimes it's just butterflies like I'm smitten with him when he takes a shirt off and we literally get like a blur stuff I've squealed in a movie before I'm not getting I've been an arc light in like what was like Troy like oh like I made a guttural involuntary vocal outburst wow more than once but I think maybe because you guys kind of look like that's why well everyone's attracted him I guess let's go I'm gonna go to get a fourth layer it's it's almost like if I could envision myself being perfect it'd be him right so it's like yeah I'm halfway to him and then I go like oh that's what I look like if my body was expressed in my fat oh that's what I'd look like if I had a nice nose and a little more pronounced wrong jawline you know it's like a hot version of me well so it's like my fantasy of myself I'm a I'm gonna go walk you can be like no see that's why that's where my no because like you said you think Ashton and LeBron have some structural there's something that's similar and I do think it crosses races and all yeah so I think that people are directed and I don't I'm gonna take right off the board I mean like sexually attracted oh yeah like a partnership do you remember you look alike at all no she look like I should put your not like I think you're just you're looking at a very surface well she was white but exactly but that's what that's surface like you I thought you would get this because you said ash and LeBron yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah structurally do you think there's no brief head like um oh so let me just what's most important is you know how I think about my face whether it is that or not I think of my face is being extremely heterogeneous neither side matches and I smile a lot so I did asymmetrical in my not so different shapes and all this and that's my source of discontent Marie was perfectly homogeneous symmetrical mirror image but features features symmetry okay big lips this area yeah like I think you look like her I really think so what yeah like you guys have kind of similar noses oh but hers is really straight and kind of angular minds doughy and bolders but you have big lips the guys big ass big ass big ass I think you guys are similar brother and sister facially and um facially speaking yeah I think you look like her oh my god I'm so flatter I really do again because you like to make my theory some publicity it's really complicated okay um and and people are talking to each other one person one's other person they seemingly have no connection but then you start really dissecting the features are actually much more similar think okay that's my theory I like it it took a long time for you to articulate that people look the same no I got it back into the theory I think it's real oh my gosh did you want to turn over to the scientific community to test it before but you want some data on it I guess what I'm asking you to do is urge social scientists there in the audience to go out and execute this study I would I would like credit I bet you don't exist if you ever googled this no I doesn't have my theory since I was like 17 yeah I'm gonna take credit away from you it's your theory you want kind of like a birth control to brush that's my invention that's my go ahead and everything but that's mine for 25 years maybe 30 right that's yours my point was girls then in my life were constantly complaining about reading a pill right but I never met a girl back in a complaint that she forgot to brush her teeth I mean it makes sense no one's ever got to brush her teeth and not if you're on a date we'll just you brush your teeth in the morning oh yeah yeah but sometimes people do forget at night I don't want to take those people yeah I don't want to take those people they should even take birth control because they shouldn't have partners don't say that if you don't don't deserve a partner well if they forget one day well it's really not forgetting so much is not giving a shit yeah you don't deserve a partner oh my god you brush your teeth every day for your whole life no I mean I've woke up in fields and stuff and I've been able to if I'm able to that's for some reason better well I'm just saying I've never had the option of brushing my teeth and not brush my teeth you wave in the morning and it tastes like a cat shit in your mouth and you want to get rid of it immediately of course of course and anyone that's comfortable with that taste in the mouth shouldn't be making other people but I mean at night like I've definitely had times at night yeah you take your pill in the morning though okay well this took me for you then okay you know how I would make sure you take your pill every night pill remote control every night use remote control I haven't been using it every night oh my god this is like the tooth brushing almost every single night yes but have there been a night where I haven't did you take your pill no never I've forgotten I think once and it was traumatic I have another man either come in front of us now here's one coffee pot pill dispenser most people not most whatever coffee drinkers there's never a morning they don't drink coffee it's not gonna happen what if they need another device if you have a hard time remembering to get a pill I'm not trying to address if you have a hard time taking your pill and your coffee drinker I have a solution for you coffee pot pill dispenser I like that when you pull the coffee pot out pill shoots out it they're like hit you don't you think people can just remember to do their stuff in my experience those girls were forgetting to take their pill they were young yeah they were young but they drink off someone drink off every morning and they all brush their teeth well good I'm glad I mean obviously if you're waking up in the morning I'm not brushing that's disgusting but I've definitely fallen asleep and I just might be honest I'm not as critical no I'm not critical of people that would not brush it before bed their mouth doesn't taste like a truck ever shit in it at night it falls asleep but when you wake up in the morning your mouth does not taste good and you should rectify the situation you should with a birth control toothbrush you should yeah but some people take theirs at night like me yeah again I'm not I'm not selling to those customers I'm very specific the virus I think what you got okay so this is Daniel this is Daniel Ricardo yeah is it pronounced like that Ricardo well in Italian it would be it would be pronounced Richard oh yeah there's two C's there's two C's but because he grew up in Australia he pronounces it Ricardo oh and since we talked he podiums I'm so happy to hear that me too he had one race immediately after we talked and I thought he's gonna win and thank us as he said yeah but he didn't podium that race but he did podium last week that's so awesome I like him oh he's so cute and charming yeah actually yeah a lot that makes me think maybe this um my theory Austin rendezvous might be a match yeah so sexy with formula oh my god take it take your chassis to the limit oh god you know it's on a handle okay oh my god oh my god oh my god did I leave and come back in ten now anymore you got a lot I thought of one that's counterproductive to my breaking that's I got to leave out no one should be putting the brakes on and Austin you know he's a late breaker though that's part of his gift he breaks late so that makes me think he has some longevity in this act we'll stay in there just in the last possible microsecond well we can say because as we just talk you don't forget to go that's right yeah so we never got tested before well COVID-19 yeah full-screen oh yeah okay you said Mercedes has been the best of 41 for eight years or so in fact it just this we can sealed up the manufacturers cup for the seventh year in a row which is a now a record enough one no other manufacturers ever wanted seven years in a row okay well Mercedes drivers have won nine world champions so Lewis Hamilton is won what six for them I don't know you need to say these things earlier from your chat okay okay but 2020 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 1955 1954 big oh that's a big big gap yeah big boy gap so seven years in a row for the driver to yeah well I think Lewis has been driving for them every year they won yeah I watched his letterman oh yeah yeah I know nothing about this world except now I know everything cuz Daniel yeah yes and then I watch that show and I thought it was really interesting seeing like this sport so niche well it's so niche and also there's this trend in sports that when a black athlete breaks through this kind of white ceiling it's so exciting like Tiger Woods did yeah they make off so popular yeah and I think Lewis Hamilton's so amazing for the sport because they're just weren't black driver yeah and then all of a sudden the one that shows up is now the greatest of all time it's really cool so cool and it was even crazier when they're showing carding and stuff because he's like the only black family out there okay so that's one thing I don't know that people and I definitely did not understand it's like go cards is how people start but go cards is not I bet your go cards is like that's fair yeah no no no it's not 120 miles like I have a shifter cart and goes 125 miles an hour the kids ones generally are called I think pushing goes so they don't have gears although they definitely I'm sure he raised the shifter cart as he got into his like 11 12 13 years old so originally they start with one that's got an automatic clutch and so but I think even those will go 65 miles an hour or something what how I mean how are kids dying they don't seem to die okay that's crazy cuz adults die in cars all the racing yeah but look at motocross you've got nine-year-old kids riding a DC dirt bikes that definitely go 80 75 80 and they're jumping five feet in the air and they just do it they want to do it yeah I know it is weird that there's a motorized component but like even on Travis he was racing at 17 years old yeah but Travis is like the best I mean I'm talking about people are not the best to crash they probably don't continue on with it well but how are they not dead well cuz when they started like five or six years old this thing's probably like 35 or something they have helmets on and all my great ribs and stuff and I thought it was just a really good insight into seeing what the process of that world is it is no different and maybe even more than an Olympic athlete is you've got your entire life to it I can't get over the fact that there's only 20 people yeah well I'm gonna watch the dock which brings it to my next that thing dang dang it's called Formula One drive to survive yeah and I really really encourage people who are not in racing to watch it because I as I said I hated Formula One I was like this is the stupidest sport ever there's no passing whoever gets pulled position just wins well a lot of like you just win well but but this is a fun but this is what's fun about racing what he's become the chess game like like last weekend Danny got on the podium but he was running eighth most the race he made a decision to not come in while the safety car was out and there's all these decisions that are made throughout the race that really impact the outcome so it is like this 90 minute long game of chess in one of the components is how good the driver is but there's also what tires you choose all the stuff so I'm thinking of chess queens gambling oh I want to see the game changing thing Netflix um guys watch Queens game it is a good show and makes me I definitely in the middle got mad at my parents right putting in chess when I was a young gal yeah I love you didn't know that I know yeah oh it's about a little girl who's an orphan and learns chess in the basement the dinner teaches her that's enough I don't want to go for everything else okay so I love the premise it's basically good bonding and that's an element without my boyfriend is a really good show in the chess element so interesting and I wish I knew how to play you know I've never played so fun but I don't know how I'll be bad of course you'll be bad but think about chess is because we just got the girls out of play you did yeah it's a very easy game to learn how to play it's a very hard game to be great at the moves in the premise is very simple like you did to be great at it because all you understand the game immediately but it's how many moves can you plan out in your head yeah I go here then they go here or here they go here then I want to go here but I go here like that's where you get great at it or not great at it oh it's okay so I want to re-watch it oh I need to watch it for the first time kind of I want to air agreements but I want to start by saying I love it you love agreements these days I don't want to do it online don't do it online no so but I still an era here's my great I love HBO Max great it's really good I really impressed okay contents phenomenal I love a lot on stop fucking making me sign in oh I love about Netflix no matter what Apple TV I go on to I start up Netflix and I watch yeah and fucking HBO Max nearly every time I have to sign in and I hate it that is an issue it's annoying why are you using a bajillion Apple TV's because I have one in the gym I have one I have one I have one in the living room I have one in my bedroom we have one outside on the patio every time you turn on you have to log in that doesn't really know because even does the same thing like an Apple TV storage information so when I go to Hulu you still sign you in but Hulu allows the Apple TV to just sign you in has your information and just says reconnect you boom fucking HBO go makes me reenter Max I'm sorry makes me reenter my direct TV password every time maybe it's because you can only have one account on like two TVs at a time like Netflix does have that again well no I've got Netflix on like seven devices maybe eight I have it on my ipax I just hit it boom it's there ipax and then all the Apple TV's sometimes my parents are acting on mine and I'm on mine and if I'm on mine and there's one going in my room and then my job signs in one of us get here right about that they have a limit on how many accounts can be simultaneously running right so I can't be watching Netflix on the living room and I'm on the gym it'll kick me off right that's not my issue because no one's ever watching there's never three TVs on my house watching Netflix sometimes the girls are watching upstairs and I'm the gym and I try to watch it there's no problem if you max go sign up okay I wish I'd help you well HBO Max make it easier I know you're worried about piracy but just be like Netflix yes they've decided they'd rather not make it inconvenient and run the rest that it's easier to maybe that's some big issues they're just being overly cautious and it's inconvenient to me and I love love love HBO Max this is a love letter HBO Max and as a loyal person loves it just let me watch it okay love Brad Pitt I wonder if anyone else is struggling with the same problem what's going on I signed your letter Brad Pitt oh thank you well I tell you what if he aired the grievance on here I should be fixed tomorrow he would never he doesn't have grievances well he's probably smart enough to error them in public I think he's a type not have any maybe not don't you kind of don't you think that well I said when I look at him I'm like that's if I was perfect that's what I would be so that means if I didn't agree I'm not saying it's perfect not have grievance I'm just saying he seems really chill yes he maximum chill yeah very cool very cool um so that Danny Danny with tolerable I feel very honored to talk to me just because I'm a new fan I'm super excited about the sport I'm a new fan and he is by far the most cares I go over he's such a clon yeah he was really fun to talk to and I was thinking it was so funny cuz I was watching last weekend's race and I was remembering he told us that he only has to be crazy for 45 seconds and I watched it on the opening lap he picked up like two places which is almost impossible to do and I was like oh yeah that's his thing he goes agro he picks up two places and he just plays it fucking smart it's so cool Danny good job Danny bye