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EPISODE · Jun 25, 2026 · 1H 13M

Danny Trejo on Heroin at 12, Prison, Recovery, Robbery, God & Tacos - Dopey's Greatest Hits

from Dopey: On the Dark Comedy of Drug Addiction · host Dave & Chris

Film Festival Tickets: https://buytickets.at/thedopeyfoundation/2216905 PAtreon: www.patreon.com/dopeypodcast This Week on Dopey Greatest Hits! My dad is back and we catch up on all things dopey and life including Alan’s deeply specific breakfast routine. Dave also reads listener emails and comments about grief, recovery, Motley Crue, Safe Spot, Steve Poltz, Dopey socks, and whether celebrities actually bring the Dopey. Then the episode replays Dave’s interview with the legendary Danny Trejo. Danny talks about growing up in Pacoima, smoking weed at eight, using heroin at twelve, idolizing his Uncle Gilbert, surviving violence, robberies, prison, Soledad, heroin withdrawal in the hole, and finally finding recovery through 12-step programs and a higher power. He also talks about his kids, helping addicts get treatment instead of prison, staying clean for decades, why he can’t smoke weed, acting as a way to revisit—but not live in—the darkness, and why food, tacos, and pancakes can sometimes reach people better than lectures. All that and much more on this week's Dopey Greatest Hits!   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Timestamp Notes 00:18 – Dave and Alan open the Thursday episode and explain Dopey’s Greatest Hits. 00:45 – Alan describes watching Dave struggle with broken podcast equipment. 01:05 – Dave explains the Rodecaster disasters: broken buttons, Best Buy returns, and Amazon packing gear under seltzer. 02:35 – Dave is trying to bank episodes before vacation and refuses to miss a day. 03:00 – Alan says Dave should leave equipment at his apartment. 03:25 – Alan questions Dave about missing a detail in the Mishka Shubaly interview. 04:30 – Dave asks if he often misses obvious follow-up questions during interviews. 05:20 – Alan says Dave usually explains things well, except when he assumes listeners know music references. 06:00 – Dave mentions an upcoming author interview about the Allman Brothers. 06:30 – Dopey being called the number two podcast about the Allman Brothers and number one in Venezuela. 07:00 – Dave asks Alan if he would pay for guests like Lamar Odom, Lenny Dykstra, Artie Lange, Bob Dylan, or Paul Simon. 08:50 – Paul Simon at Katz’s fantasy and discussion of Harper Simon. 09:25 – Mayim Bialik, Ben Stiller, Yiddish words, and “tumult.” 11:40 – Dave introduces the Danny Trejo Greatest Hits replay. 12:10 – Danny Trejo’s taco company and his son Gilbert’s earlier episode. 12:45 – Dave reads listener email from Brooke: seven years in recovery after a robbery that led to her boyfriend’s death. 14:00 – Alan responds to Brooke. 14:30 – Patreon comments from Nikki Sixx replay. 15:25 – Alan says he hates one Dopey intro song; Dave defends “I especially love Fentanyl Jay.” 16:00 – Motley Crue fans react to Nikki Sixx interview. 16:35 – Tesla the band vs Nikola Tesla; Alan gives a Tesla/Edison/Westinghouse history lesson. 18:00 – Listener says being an addict feels like a blessing because recovery gave him a beautiful life. 18:30 – Dave asks Alan how responsible he is for Dave’s addiction. 19:20 – Dave assigns Alan 9% of the blame and his mother 11%. 20:40 – Winnie’s screen door damage and repair. 21:10 – Safe Spot availability question and Steve Poltz shoutout. 22:20 – Alan remembers Steve Poltz’s hypnotic presence. 23:00 – Comment wanting Nikki Sixx’s unfiltered sex, drugs, and rock and roll stories. 23:40 – Patreon Zoom and possible second Zoom. 24:15 – Alan asks why the show is not being videoed from the apartment studio. 24:55 – Spotify comments: bathroom offer at 190th Street and celebrity guests vs real Dopey guests. 26:00 – Alan says his favorite kind of Dopey guest is one who brings recovery and hope. 27:15 – Alan critiques Dave’s overuse of “Dopey legend” and “the great.” 28:00 – Ray Brown’s song and Alan’s reaction. 29:25 – Alan’s breakfast: pickled herring, crackers, cereal, strawberries, cookies. 31:30 – Kidney health, spinach, potassium, and AI medical advice. 32:30 – Dave introduces Danny Trejo as a Dopey legend. Danny Trejo Interview 32:45 – Dave introduces Danny Trejo: film star, TV star, junkie star, recovery star. 33:25 – Dave talks about reading Danny’s book, watching Inmate #1, and hearing him on Howard Stern. 34:05 – Danny talks about smoking weed at eight with his uncle. 35:00 – Danny says he didn’t see it as abuse then, but does now. 35:25 – Danny remembers getting high at eight while his uncle and friends looked at Bible pictures. 36:10 – Danny talks about Uncle Gilbert as his hero, father figure, and brother-like companion. 37:20 – Danny explains the importance of giving his own kids time. 38:20 – Dave reads a passage from Danny’s book about heroin as an escape hatch from fear, regret, anger, and self-hatred. 39:35 – Danny describes violence, abuse, family dynamics, and how he understood it growing up. 41:00 – Dave relates heroin to confidence, numbness, peace, and not giving a fuck. 41:55 – Danny says prison is also “right here, right now.” 42:10 – Danny talks about robbery, drugs, adrenaline, and losing sight of what addiction is feeding. 43:30 – Technical freeze; Dave talks acceptance and expectations. 44:10 – Danny reassures Dave that the interview is going fine. 44:25 – Dave reads another passage about “the power of crazy.” 45:05 – Danny says “the power of crazy” is both a street thing and an addict thing. 45:35 – Danny says his worst heroin habit was inside Soledad State Prison. 46:20 – Danny talks about protecting a cartel-connected kid and having endless access to dope in prison. 47:00 – Danny says having all the heroin in the world only kills you. 47:40 – Prison access, knowing the system, and how some people get worse habits inside. 48:30 – Danny tells the story of relapsing after 29 days sober with Dennis. 49:15 – Danny and Dennis take pills, drink beer, find guns, and trade them for heroin. 50:30 – Danny sells fake heroin/sugar to a federal agent. 51:10 – Dennis cooperates with the feds and Danny realizes he’s in serious trouble. 52:10 – Years later, sober Danny sees Dennis dying and tells him to call if he wants help. 53:10 – Dave says that betrayal may have saved Danny’s life. 53:35 – Danny explains finally getting clean in prison after a riot and withdrawal in the hole. 54:20 – Danny says 12-step, acceptance, and finding a God he understood saved his life. 55:20 – Dave asks why Danny kept doing recovery work even after becoming a movie star. 56:00 – Danny talks about helping addicts, detox work, Western Pacific Rehab, and treatment instead of prison. 57:10 – Danny says nonviolent drug offenders should be treated, not incarcerated. 57:45 – Dave asks how Danny dealt with his own kids having addiction issues. 58:10 – Danny explains his support system and Mario Castillo helping save his son’s life. 59:45 – Dave asks about David Crosby saying he knew he could smoke weed once drug dreams stopped. 01:00:10 – Danny says his head can tell him stupid things and he knows he cannot smoke weed. 01:01:15 – Danny tells convicts that if they started with weed and ended in prison, doing it again is insanity. 01:02:00 – Dave admits he still has an old-stoner reservation in the back of his mind. 01:02:25 – Dave asks how Danny separates playing bad guys from living as a recovery person. 01:03:00 – Danny says he is not those characters anymore and doesn’t stay in character. 01:03:45 – Danny remembers Uncle Gilbert telling him to “rob me” as an acting lesson. 01:04:15 – Danny explains how street survival and prison violence became real identity, not just acting. 01:05:15 – Dave asks about Danny’s genuine self and the gift of recovery. 01:05:45 – Danny says the program gave him life and freedom. 01:06:10 – Danny talks about making a deal with God in prison. 01:06:50 – Danny remembers seeing “Fuck God” written in shit and knowing how far he had come. 01:07:15 – Dave asks about tacos, food, and helping people with pancakes instead of lectures. 01:08:00 – Danny invites Dave to Trejo’s Tacos when he comes to LA. 01:08:20 – Interview ends. 01:08:35 – Dave and Alan return; Dave teases a secret unfinished interview with a famous person. 01:09:25 – Dave plugs Dopey Film Festival tickets. 01:09:55 – Alan signs off: stay strong Dopey Nation and toodles for Chris. 01:10:10 – Outro song: “I Wanna Be Good So Bad.”

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