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No, I won't be doing that every single week, but that's still very exciting. So this is our first episode after... First episode after 500, and of course, in classic horror movie night fashion, we're diving into, uh, Is this even a horror movie pick from your boy, Matt Kelly, with Dark Man from 1990. Happy 35 years, Dark Man.
Yeah. Dude, this is my first time seeing it. It wins. This is my first two.
Really? It's a fun move. Awesome. And so I think it falls into, uh, I feel like it falls into horror.
There's like pretty gnarly. Well, so I agree because Sam Raimi has been very open that the entire thing is based on his love of the 30s Universal movies, the most obvious ones being like Phantom of the Opera and the Invisible Man, but it covers a lot of stuff. Man, I actually just mentioned Phantom of the Opera. It would be really cool if there was a podcast.
Wait a second. I'm looking at where there's thousands of geekscapes shows that are here and there's a Phantom show that just popped out. Just popped it out. Yeah, maybe I'll just plug it real quick.
Phantom of the Opera on Geekscape. It's very exciting. I don't know if we'll get to Dark Man. I'm sure we'll mention Dark Man as an offshoot, not directly a Phantom of the Opera, but it does have, it's clear influences there.
It's so fun. Yeah, no, this is a really fun movie. I bought the Triple Pack in the early days of me buying DVDs. It was like a DVD that had all three Dark Man movies.
I'd never seen any of them, but I'd heard about it. I knew it was Sam Raimi. I was like, I'll buy this. But I watched, very excited to say, cracked open my Blu-ray slash 4K HD screen factory version of Dark Man for this particular watch.
And I had a very good time with that. I bet it looked awesome. You can bet all you want. It's in your favor.
We're going to dive into this very quickly. Well, not quickly. There's a lot here to work with. I wanted to, before I start going into the plot lines, I want to talk about this opening scene because it's not really plot important, but it does such a great job of introducing Larry Drake into this movie as a villain you do not want to fuck with in this movie.
I mean, if you want to be able to make a turkey at Thanksgiving with your fingers? Like a turkey? A hand turkey? It's so good.
And the quick cuts, like right before he uses that cigar cutter to the person's face, it's so effective and so cheap. It's such a cheap but effective trick, which is kind of Sam Raimi's whole deal in the 80s and 90s. Oh, and this movie was chock full of them. I was like so much trickery.
It was great. Yeah, this is like, because this is like before Sam Raimi is Sam Raimi, right? Like he's like, he's like beloved indie horror director. This is like his first kind of stepping out of Evil Dead attempt.
I'm pretty sure this is like maybe his third or fourth movie. I think this is first studio flick. I think. Yeah, you're seeing a lot of the Sam Raimi tricks are happening.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, for the first time in, you know, ever for me, I'd seen clips by I never watched the whole movie before.
And it's just so you watch this and you're like, oh, Spider-Man. Okay. That's why you got Spider-Man because it's like, it's the blueprint. It's so funny to watch.
I mean, I liked this movie, but it's got way too much gun violence for me to like probably ever go back to it. But it really is such a comic book presentation of the violence. That's the thing is like this. Well, I don't want to say too much because I don't want to ruin anyone's spoilers, but this fits so well with a lot of those 90 superhero movies that we've done as Patreon episodes, but this isn't based on a source material in that way.
You know what I mean? Like all the other stuff was pulling from comics and radio dramas and et cetera. And like, this is just a purely original idea using his love of those things to create something interesting. And of course, because it is a superhero movie in 1990, Danny Elfman is here to write the score and dear God, as much as I like this song and I'm not shitting on this score, but holy shit did late 80s into early 90s.
Danny Elfman had a very specific sound because this song feels like it was just a cut song from Beetlejuice or Batman when it first plays. It is like without even before the music by credit came up, I thought, well, this is definitely Danny. For something that is an original character, an original thought, it is I do love how much it wears. It's hard on its sleeve and then even because it's just in that world is drawing from like, yeah, Danny Elfman is going to do the score.
Like, he's just going to because like that's the superhero guy, you know, it's like it's such a good dip your toe into that thing for Sam Raimi and he really pulls out all the tricks. I just, there's no, there's not going to be a good spot for me to crack this beer other than right now because I'm thirsty. So oh, and Scott, thirsty too. Both are on the same face.
So of course we're both thirsty. I picked this and that which you can't, oh yeah, this and that from New Park at Hartford and I mainly picked it just because of this double skyline and because as we go further into explaining what Dark Man does and what he does well, it's a little bit of this and then. Yeah. And I have dark apparition from Jackie Oh.
It was a hard one to find. So I was like, is there one with like a face, a human face on it? Is there one that's like, you know, I was looking for the drinking bird. I was looking for like all these things and I was finally like dark apparition.
I like this beer. I think I've used it at least once before on the show and you know, sometimes it's okay to go back to the well. Ask Sam Raimi. He's been doing it a lot.
He's been doing it a lot. All right. So let's dive into this plot. So our main character here is Peyton.
Peyton is a scientist who's been working on synthetic skin for burn victims, but there's a slight flaw in his system. The skin that he builds disintegrates after 99 minutes. Meanwhile, his girlfriend Julie discovers incriminating documents that prove that her boss has been bribing the zoning commission. When she confronts her boss about it, he confesses to the crime, but warns her that that document in the wrong hands could lead to some nefarious things.
It's right around this point that Larry Drake's Durant arrives to Peyton's lab searching for jewels and instead murders his lab assistant and tortures him, leaving him left for dead, but instead he is just very, very badly burned. The hospital finds him, but they can identify the body and they start using an experimental nerve procedure that eliminates physical pain from the burns, but the side effect is that it causes him to have amplified emotions and enhance strength sounds a lot like a movie we watched last Christmas, doesn't it? Who is the nurse? Jenny, something from American werewolf was the nurse in this burn.
I didn't even, she looks familiar. I didn't look her up. That's really interesting. That's like, so great casting because she's a nurse in American werewolf in London too.
So that's just same. I was like, do you know nurse? I think you know nurse. Oh, I didn't realize Landis has a cameo in the hospital too.
I went to go find her name and said that Landis has a cameo in the hospital and I told him that he's probably just like in the background of a shot. I think he had a face mask. I can see a bearded man with a face covering in that scene in my brain. Well, John Landis aside, Peyton breaks loose and he rebuilds his lab in an abandoned building, hoping to give himself back his skin through his synthetic experiments.
However, he also decides that he needs to seek revenge on Durant for leading him to this situation and he begins by torturing and murdering his close associate Rick and my god, this shot of him popping his head up and down. The manhole on a busy street is like, this is like pure evil dead-esque craziness and I love it. I was like, this movie rules. Like, that was like the very beginning of me being like, this movie is so fucking good.
Oh, and we're ignoring the fact that that's Ted Raimi. That's Ted Raimi. Of course. Listen, if he's going to throw somebody into dangerous circumstances, it's usually his brother.
It's going to be Ted Raimi. You can tell that Raimi is a bad guy though because he's got a spider-tat to his hand. No, that's the dead-giver way. I do like that the hospital scene is just the exposition scene for, so we have the origin, but then his superpowers, so to speak, he has explained, you know, we saved his burn victim and sometimes they get real mad about it.
That was sort of the, that was like the boy's he pissed. There's no true superpowers in this movie, but like, you know, spoiler alerts for movies that are still 30 years old at this, or almost 30 years old, some of them, but like, they kind of power creep dark man out later on where he has super strength. Okay. Or it's maybe it's like he's always got adrenaline or something like that.
Yeah, I was reading that. The Wikipedia says amplified emotions and enhanced strength, but yeah, I don't recall that fizz like verbally being snake. I think it's more expressly discussed in specifically Dark Man 3, Die Dark Man Die with Jeff Fey. He is the bad guy because his whole thing is that he wants to, he wants to make a super soldier serum using Durant or using the dark man's blood or something.
Blood, I guess. I haven't watched that one. Well, I have to find out when we get there. Probably could tell it.
Well, figure out when we get to Dark Man 2. I think we know the ten years. Peyton, Peyton begins working on masks, and I think this is such a fun concept, right, for this entire movie. It's Peyton using the synthetic skin with a ticking timer of that it only has an hour and a half.
He begins intentionally making masks of all of Durant's associates so that he can impersonate them and build internal distrust within the gang. And that's so dope. The point where he's now wearing a derrant, like one of the best shots in this whole movie is when he's now made Durant's face and they, he's running out of the restaurant while Durant's running in and they're stuck in the revolving door and they're just staring at each other. It's such a beautifully framed trick shot because obviously that's two different shots that they've like, wait, he didn't have two Larry.
Larry, yeah. Larry and Gary Drake. Larry and Gary Drake. But they seamlessly hide that cut for where that split shot is through that revolving door.
It's like, that's the Sam Raimi, like, that's like the Sam Raimi, give me Sam Raimi's film school book one day. Give me a shot. Give me a shot. Nice.
Now, Peyton has finally- It's so long to figure out the battles of J.J. and it's also been so long since you've you've done that so many times and I had a hard time. It was a beautiful, beautiful reference there. I really enjoyed that.
Well, we'll get back to that scene in a second because Peyton has made a replica of his original face and he finally feels confident to meet with Julie, but he lies to her. He convinces her that he was just in a coma, nothing bad really happened and that they should start hanging out again basically. They make Liam Neeson look a little bit like pin when he had, I don't think anybody's about that. No, no, no, no.
But they do the sheen or some sort of makeup on him that does make us think, like it gives him this temporary skin look that I think is really great. He looks like a doll. He does look like a dolly. It's a fantastic alteration.
And it's around this part with Durant, right, where he does the Durant mask. I think we start to see some of the coolest practical effects because we've got when the mask starts to bubble as Larry drinks face and then like the face, the mask falls on the ground. It's like this full face melt into the ground and then he's on the date with Julie. They go to the carnival and he breaks out and she chases him down and we see now Liam Neeson's face as a mask that melts down on the table.
Every time that one of the faces melts, it looks really cool. Like it's super cool and effective, but I can't skip past a carnival. I mean, all the direct to me, fun house references that were happening there were amazing carnival scene is like, this is the most Sam Raimi level of chaos. Like the way that it's like them having a great time, but you're building his like mental capacities falling apart by these just like rapid cuts of like laughing clown face like crazy rides, like you're building that tension.
And then when it builds up to where he loses it and causes it to seem by snapping a carnies face. Oh, God, it's so, so good. Now Julie reveals to her boss that Peyton is still alive and unbeknownst to her, her boss has been on the on the take with Durant from the beginning. So they kidnap her and they go to Peyton's lab to rough him up and Peyton using all of his super strength and a willingness to destroy his entire lab kills this entire gang.
Then Peyton as Durant flees on a helicopter, Peyton shases him down and is dangling from a cable in a really again impressive stunt to stunt work here. Yeah. Well, Durant is firing grenades. Like it's on the same bridge.
Yeah. I'm just like that bridge. You know, like this is a showdown that is also going to destroy this city completely. And no one can no one seems to care like Durant's not like, you know, maybe I should be a little on the L about trying to blow someone up.
No, it's there. It gives. So now that I've watched all three seasons of Daredevil and I've started this new season, it really is giving like Wilson Fisk at his least box to give left where it's like, like everybody has to know who that is up there firing grenades out of a helicopter. Like it's like, oh, like other cars on the bridge that are like swerving like, oh, shit, like they haven't seen all these other cars blowing up.
They still have to get to their dentist appointment across town. They need to go. They charge you late. I'll be gone.
Dude, it's true. I got charged for a late dentist appointment and I am not happy about it. And this got me. No, no, no, no.
Exactly. I was like two-thirty on the bottom. If you're not there, then you're fucked. Listen, I'm already spending $50 on a single leg omelet.
I'm certainly not going to be spending that money on a dentist work I didn't hit. I love a mob boss whose ego has just driven them to this. Like I love a villain. But mob bosses seem to be, you know, because they have an entourage and they have like a whole like empire.
That's what I love a villain. When I think about this movie that makes it fun and like I will say I would say that I think this is more fun than even both of the Tim Burton Batman's for this reason is like there's really never a single point where Durant has the upper hand after he creates Dark Man. You know what I mean? Like it's almost like Liam Neeson's character is like two or three steps ahead of him.
And that's what like leads to this moment is so so fun is that like this dude who has always been the guy that no one can take down has just had loss and deceit handed to him so much that he's just lost his mind. Like he's at the point where he's just firing shit from a helicopter because he's out of every other option that has ever worked in his playbook on how to handle a situation. The start of the movie he was a leg ahead. It was a tiny gun leg ahead of everybody else.
And now that was insane. That was crazy. Like yeah, there's so much crazy stuff that that was left in this movie. And when you read the Wikipedia it talks about how originally two hour and 48 minute run time and they had to cut so much from this movie and this is like the fifth cut or something like that or something ridiculous.
But it doesn't feel like it's missing any of the stuff. But that's what I want to say is like they still cut a lot of wild shit and I don't know what got cut because it's still you watch this and it is just so so much weird stuff happens. I've got to dive in. I've got to dive into this DVD HD 4K because the one thing that jumped out at me is that there's a commentary track on it not from Sam Raimi but as it says from self proclaimed Dark Man Superfan Josh Rubin.
So the guy who did like werewolves werewolves within and he did what was the movie that I loved where it's like him stuck in the cabin with the one other girl in the pizza guy. Tell me not to be a story. Yeah, like scare me. I think it was called scare me.
Yeah, scare me. Which was much better than werewolves within person in my opinion. Yeah, I liked werewolves within fine but scare me is way better. Anyway, so they smash or dark man smashes Durant's helicopter into the upper part of a tunnel.
Great bit of business. Well yes and no because the second film is called the return of Durant and I haven't watched it. How do you survive being blown up? Singing here's a bunch of Jeff fuel.
I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember much of this movie but from the little bit of Googling I did. I feel like Larry Drake unscathed. Like I was like, oh this could be interesting because maybe he's now equally burnt and like jacked up from the same no I think it's just.
I think it's dumb ass haircut. That's brutal. Just think it's dark man yet again. Anyway, it's crazy that Durant isn't the final boss of the movie.
The final boss is Julie's boss because Peyton shows up as Durant but Julie's boss immediately sees through this shit and he rips off the mess to reveal this beauty. I mean we've seen a couple of times at this point but the beautiful like human eyes and nose and then just like charred skin with the teeth exposed that is like the dark man face. Julie finally sees what looks like. He kills her boss and Julie is desperately trying to tell him no you can live a normal life.
You can go back to life you used to have but no this quest for revenge has changed him and he knows that he is fully now dark man and he runs off into the crowd to become Bruce Campbell while Julie searches to try to find where her beloved Peyton is. I love that it's just like a little dash of a tragic end to the story. You're one of the few people because this really bad test audience reaction because they were like where's the happy ending but it's like you I like that because Sam Raimi gets it. It's very much like that movie super right like once you flip that switch into like taking the law into your own hands you don't just like go back to be like regular average Joe scientist from that like it breaks you it will break you and I love that that's like the kind of the message of the story is that like yes he got his revenge but he was the original thing was getting revenge to salvage the life that was taken from him and instead he further destroyed the life that was taken from him where Julie said like I still would have loved you like you all burn up as you are like I still I wouldn't have left like I would have still been there for you.
Friends make Gorman's great I clearly I would imagine if there was a two hour and 40 minute cut a lot of her stuff got cut which is a bummer but she's great I like I would watch her in anything and this is pretty you know small potatoes but she's fantastic and I think there would have been more I would have loved a little more love story but clearly this you know this is 1990 and this is just not how those things go but you know I like but I like her sort of position in what the city is and like you know her position of power you know her her relationship with with Peyton was was great you know I don't even know her character name which is probably part of the reason that's a little bit of a bummer but I would like to see more of her. Yeah. Just great. Oh no I like it.
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internet supreme court dot com. So the question is raised. Matt what would you double feature away? That's the question.
That is a good question. Alright so I think the answer to that question is I'm going to make sure for certain that I'm not stealing anything off of anybody's plates with Darkman. Sam Raimi comes out of his horror shell and creates a mainstream action movie. The only elements of the Invisible Man with a face wraps character.
And then two years later John Carpenter also steps away from his horror career to make another Invisible Man inspired movie. The almost unwatchable Chevy Chase, Daryl Hannon, Sam Neal and Michael McKeean film Memoirs of Invisible Man. I use the movie all the time as a kid. Never come back to movie night.
No, no it's a bad one. It's a bad movie all across the board. Don't expect it. Do not expect for us to do it.
I've actually been begging the guys at Monster Rally to let me do an episode on Memoirs of Invisible Man so that I don't have to do it for horror movie night. So you're welcome guys. I'm thinking of you when I make those requests. Thank you for prioritizing our family.
Scott what do you have on deck? Well I know I've got you about gun violence in movies a lot but it just feels like this movie in Robocop would be just such a sick double feature. Nice. Because they kind of tell the same story almost like you know, Left or Dead, Revenge, lots of body mutilations and things like that.
Yeah that would be good. That would be really nice. I'm going with the Crow. I just feel like it is in the same sort of world.
And I like the emotionality of what was happening here even though it wasn't totally built upon and there's a lot more of that in the Crow. There's a lot less action and maybe some less fun but the Crow would be my 90s superhero double feature. Now that we've said it though I have to throw out there that the two big influences beyond the Universal Monster movies were the Shadow and the Phantom. Yeah, yeah.
But I mean he did the Shadow movie. I mean I was going to pick the Shadow but I was like well there's already an influence. The Alec Baldwin movie. Well that's pretty day years later.
This is pretty day. It's like four years. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean I watch the Shadow so much and I still quote it. I love it so much. It's not a good movie. I don't know why it did so much for me as a child but I guess it's an adolescent.
Anyway, you know I just feel like you need something that's as bombastic. Yeah and the Shadow really is that over the top. I mean it's over the top of the top. You need us not forget that there is a dagger that has a face and snarls.
Yeah this is the Shadow. That's so crazy. The CGI in this movie is so much better than the CGI in the Shadow which was years later. Yeah later.
And arguably probably still a bigger budget. You know what I mean? Like this is he's got eight and twelve million to make this by the way. Really?
That seems so low for what was happening. It seems really low for what it is and we aren't even seeing the full extent of what they cut over the shot. You know. Almost a three hour first cut.
Yeah exactly. And also think about like okay so they thought that this movie was like the studios were pissed because like the the test screening was so bad and then I guess that they're in the course of trying to get a suitable cut that would make the studio happy. This other guy behind the back of Raimian whoever the editor was made another copy and used the negatives and made the final cut and they had to take it. So the one that we saw like the theatrical version is this like the studio was livid and so like they didn't want to put any behind promoting this movie.
But so they did this like weird marketing program where it was like and I remember this because you know I was eight years old and they made a and any any escape for this for Dark Man. It was just a reskinned like dumb shoe or something like that. And I remember playing it once it was so fucking hard because like you have a timer just like the real Dark Man does before your and you have to take pictures so you can use other you can infiltrate the different levels using the different faces of the henchmen and stuff. But so the whole thing and it was in comic books and it was like who is Dark Man.
So they're doing this thing like raising the mystery of the character and all that. Raimi loved it. And they thought that like the studio basically left us for dead. They thought that it was gonna suck.
It made back the eight million like the base like in the in the theaters. So it was a success without even a lot of the backing of or you know. Yeah. You know I know that the numbers are always fudged in Hollywood but from what we understand between eight and twelve million to make the movie and eight million in revenue from just the theatrical run is that's a win.
I mean it's probably also why they they found that since Raimi can can make a financially successful movie doing weird shit they just gave him more. Well but that also you have to factor in that like this is to me classic Hollywood which is like you know okay we see what you did with the Evil Dead and the Evil Dead 2 where like your budget was a couple thousand dollars and like three million I want to say is Evil Dead 2 like it's not a lot of money. They're not gonna suddenly just sign like a sixty million dollar check but they'll like say what stories do you have for us that you could do for say ten mil and this was probably one of the ideas that he pitched because it was about the same budget for Army of Darkness but then when you jump to the next one when you go to the quick in the dead which is what he did after Army of Darkness in 1995 which was a Western now he's working with a budget of thirty five million like this is where like he's proven that he can like return a product on like a fair price and that's how you like eventually build your way into getting the like endless checks that he would like the bottomless budget checks that he was getting when you get to Spider-Man but it makes sense to me that they were gonna lowball him on this first like real studio because like you know you don't want to sink your ship into that. It's part of why like you look at Marvel so many of the Marvel directors are these like micro budget directors that they bring in you know I mean like Eternals was done by the woman who made I mean listen Eternals is not a good movie but the point is like Eternals was made by the woman who made No Man Land that I'm pretty sure is the lowest budgeted film to win best picture ever like it was like they were finding like who are the people who are making beloved like art like critically acclaimed movies for like under a million dollars and let's bring them in and give them a little bit more money to shoot the stuff that we're not gonna shoot because more Francis McDormand love by the way yeah but you know I mean it's you're certainly because like let's be real like James Gunn ain't shooting the fight scenes in the Guardians of the Galaxy and I mean like they Marvel has their own internal crew that handles the way that all of their fight scenes are shot but I don't know if that's true actually um because I I watch a little feature at about Guardians 3 and I think he was on set for those those he made gotten really CGI like I love a hand of hand stuff I think yes you know what he maybe he got I know he got extra pull but I know with a lot of them like the fight like the fight scenes that are shot in the Marvel way they have their own special crew that come in and do that so like when they're hiring a director it's more who's gonna get these characters in the dialogue pieces down and they don't have to worry about finding someone who can shoot action because they have their whole like action squad man this is such a crazy tension hey Scott I heard your band has a new single yeah so it's been a long time coming but my X band now real band again Ika bod Crane is back we've been back for like two years and we spent all of last year recording self recording an album and then we had the Almighty Jamie King mix and asterisk people that love metal probably know him from all of the between the buried in the records it was absolutely dream to work with him super super great guy and he really polished the turd so our first single is called amakre of the night sky there's a lyric video that's up now on YouTube Facebook all the socials all that shit and if you like metal you might like it and if you like or you probably are going to like it because it's about these spelunkers these guys in a cave that they find a massive underground room that has a false ceiling that is actually full of portals to a another dimension full of elder chores and may get spaghettified as they get pulled into hell love that love spaghettifying anything and and Scott I think I heard through the grapevine that there's a website that someone could go to to buy both horror movie night merch and Ika bod Crane merch if they ever so desire to if they were to be so interested it's a hmn podcast dot dashery dot com it's about d-a-s-h-e-r-y it's an offshoot of our t-public page but it we can dictate the prices differently we can do our own ads are our own sales things like that the money is divided differently we don't know all the details but it supports us you get cool shirts like what we're wearing like the sulfur I don't even know where Matt's cutie petootie I was not part of the team he doesn't wear shirts well I'm not a part of the game I also hate Scott and I just podcast don't you have something to promote well I don't know if there's a story at the post office that you want to tell us you are you promote family the pot and then you have your post office yeah okay so fan of the pot for a new podcast on geekscape with my buddy in front of the show Evan chronologically going through all the adaptations that we can access about family about family opera so the first handful episodes are out by now I think or couple of us about by now really excited about it we're having a lot of fun with it Salem Horror Fest is coming up at the end of well April 30th to May 4th so and Ashley Lawrence has been announced and the features and the shorts have been announced as well and I am the associate producer of one of the features that's there called so fades the light which is a coming of age road movie thriller about a woman named son who as a child escaped a right wing gun cult during a raid and now as a young adult they're going back to the compound to find closure and within that closure or paralleling that the pastor is actually getting out of prison and is possibly doing the same thing it's really tense experiential road movie that is directed by a collective called get super rad Kylie lots they are the star they play son they are also in my short film ouchy you know they brought me on to see the film through post production and distribution and festival stuff and I'm really really happy to be a part of it and it's playing at Salem Horror Fest so that's the end of the month in Salem Massachusetts and then I just I will tell you my my post office story because I think that I want to offer this up to horror movie night and I'm doing this live but I used to run a cycle horror finds and I used the same and I still use the name horror finds for things that I do like I have a depop and I just use horror finds as an easy name but I went to the post office the other day and my clerk that I often communicate with she asks she stops me as I'm dropping off mail and she says hey wait a second postmaster Jim the postmaster has a question about your P.O.
box if you want to have something more apropos and I'm like I don't know what that means and my P.O. box is coming you know is not due is due for renewal at the end of the month I wasn't sure if I was gonna do it and he comes out from the back and goes hey do you want P.O. box 666 and I go oh yeah yeah I do I do want P.O. box 666 so so if you are listening to this and you would like to send anything because this is free blockbuster this is horror finds this is Phantom of the Pop Brothers is horror movie night if you will allow it yeah you want to send anything to us you can send it to P.O.
box 666 Niantic Connecticut 06357 okay it's thing it's happened I am so thankful to live in a community that is like hey you want this I say yes unknowingly guaranteeing you signing for another year of having a people yeah that's what you're all that's called that's called they didn't know that my renewal was coming up at the end they just asked me if I wanted to switch my box you know I mean like and I was sort of confused because I was like I was like I have to pay for it you know I do because I'm it's expiring but I understand like it wasn't even we were not on the same wavelength he was just he was just making sure that I would want 666 and I do so this is like kind of related but slightly unrelated as a man who used to work at a comic book shop my point being that there are numbers there are numbers that are quick to go in certain industries and I'm curious if you guys know in a comic book shop where you have a poll list now think geeky geeky humans 69 you usually okay that's one of the three there are usually three boxes out of the hundred boxes for the poll list that get claimed immediately not 13 20 like a roll a 20 nope it's 16 37 because of clerics go clairks oh and 42 because of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy 42 being the old 16 what's the 16 69 you correctly you correctly got 69 is one of the three numbers that go I love when I correctly get 69 now I got my my for the record when I used to get kind of exposed my box number was 38 because someone had beaten me to 37 37 that's that's started fucking life my guy isn't it all right so last part of the show talking about stuff that we have read listen to whatever I want to turn this into a promotion for one of my newer podcasts Christian cringe because we watched a movie that I pretty immediately texted at Kyle and was like I have a movie for you and it was 1970s the cross and the switch plates a film starring Pat Boone and a young Eric Estrada and it is about a pastor who goes to New York to convert all of the gangs in New York it's based on a true story and the only reason why I mention this is not a good movie but what is really impressive about this movie is that it somehow is a PG televangelist movie that captures every aspect of what would become the 70s exploitation in grindhouse aesthetic but like not on purpose like I think it was just we're working with a budget and like doing the best we can but it's like you get these crazy like handheld chase scenes through New York and you get like hey this person's on heroin how do we shoot the fact that they're like tripping out and you get these over the top performances because of it it even gave me a little bit of Texas Chainsaw Massacre but this is four years before Texas Chainsaw Massacre because it starts with a voiceover saying like the story that you're about to hear is true the names of it like what it's like early like I'm just like what is this movie it's long it's not really worth watching more than like the first 20 or 30 minutes to just be like wow this is a weirdly shot movie but it's on to be so why not give it a shot and then listen to our episode yeah and then listen to our episode about on Christian cringe hell yeah I love it I have been on a sort of teen serious teen drama late 90s early 2000s serious drama kick and I watched a movie called roller coaster I talked about this already no color be intrigued it's it's not it's straight up not a great movie but I just it is about these five young teens that are presumably in some sort of group home that have left the group home and gone to an abandoned amusement park for a day and you know we come to find out that two of them are planning to kill themselves that day but they want to go have a great time they are drinking and running around the park this abandoned park Brendan Fletcher is in it and he is incredible in this like he is playing this you know truly troubled and pretty hyperactive teenager that then gets well it's it's there's some essay and there's some other stuff that happens at the hands of somebody in authority because that is what happens to these children who have gone out into this this abandoned roller in this abandoned amusement park and it's just it's just like sort of this slice of life like there are high stakes there is stuff that is planned and things that we're building towards but it's this sort of confusing experiential thing but it's a it's a director they be by some Canadian director that like has gone just to do TV like it's nobody major but I just found out DVD in a thrift store a few different times so I finally had to like in a few different stuff yeah it bothered me enough that you had to get a couple and I was like yeah I was just like eventually I was like okay you know and I I'm interested in that style or that sort of genre anyway you know as difficult and as maybe troublesome as something like Larry Clark's kids or something is you know and that's an extreme example but there are you know lighter lighter but difficult teen a 13 is a great example like I loved loved loved 13 growing up I still look at that movie and still think about the movie a lot you know this is sort of falls into that vein it's not as successful but it's interesting to look at and an abandoned amusement park is just a fun landscape like they have you know Matt's into that yeah I mean I was so yeah it's a little tired but there's oh yeah yeah yeah eventually it's great it gets a little tired and gets a little troubling it gets a little sloppy on both ends of things like just like messy and the content and also messy just like how they're trying to portray like they're trying to I think it's definitely a stretch where they're trying to fill you know 20 minutes or so but I watch it and it's just take a chance on those things that you see out in the wild at wild that keep calling to you or that like you keep coming across because you're gonna find something that you dig out of it so that's roller coaster from 99 all right Scott take us home all right I'm going all the way up to 2024 25 with Azrael that movie that that stars Samara weaving that has no dialogue okay now it was created written and directed by shoot oh yeah cats who did chief thrills yes the guy that did chief thrills now this movie really pissed me off I love Samara weaving right actually the reason that I'm it wasn't yell cats that I was upset with it's Simon Barrett and which we talked about just a couple weeks ago because of he's you know he wrote the guest he wrote your next what do we I don't even remember what we were talking about with him well we did the guests a while ago I mean but it was more recent than that it was literally we were just talking about it maybe because he came up in the conversation because of the HS and seance and all that shit and Godzilla and Kong and you rain stuff like that so in any case really awesome concept super awesome concept for a movie the precedent is set with a little title card that says this takes place 200 years after the rapture and now there are demons that roam the earth that want to kill humans that world building is completely ruined in the first scene where you see a fucking car driving yeah it's a beater but like I'm sorry it's been 200 years since the fucking rapture and you think that I'm supposed to believe that a car like that that manufacturing hasn't broken down that there's still gasoline being refined gasoline's gasoline doesn't sit in a barrel for like I mean once gas has been refined it only has some sort of shelf like like six months like it turns the shit real fast electrical batteries and cars like all the batteries all that stuff they would have broken down by then so that's not the window and I'm trying my best to accept this world and I'm like okay I can like I can think that maybe this cult that some are leaving was raised in just things that the rapture happened and and so I'm going through and there's a scene where she gets she runs into somebody who isn't part of her cult and they're driving a nice truck they speak Esperanto and they have a radio that works and it's playing a song and it's very interesting that this one became out the same you within within a year of both the first omen and immaculate because they all kind of are like the the trinity of a kind of like that similar they're similar vibe but I did indeed dive after watching it because I was so annoyed with the way that the world building was kind of thrown out as soon as it was put there I was like was this just a mistake well Simon Barrett has gone on to say like oh I left it up to interpretation but like it really is 200 years after the rapture and he walks back all this shit and I'm like this guy has gotten to make all these movies he's written and no one is calling him on this and it is the biggest mind fuck for me because I'm like writers should have nothing like your story has nothing if you build the world and then don't play by own rules and you can if you were to build rules and then break them it has to be some sort of discussion of breaking the rules like scream did that where they set the rules and break them it's like but then those are tropes that they're breaking and they do those in like urban legend and maybe it was a little bit of that conversation came up I don't know but in any case I'm very frustrating watch beautifully shot so it's a beautiful movie so props to someone we've been for acting props to the to the cinematography but Simon Barrett you don't get any props boy you did a real bad job so I had to get that out there I love that I love that I love some Scott Smackdown everyone's a while we need I have a beautiful review for you well that's the thing you kind of give one in the next week it's a compliment but everyone's a while Scott needs to bring the smackdown on someone I got to pound up I love it Simon Simon you were in his crosshairs today I think it's time of Barrett you better watch out he'll be shooting grenade launchers at you from a helicopter pretty dark man anyway next week we'll be back talking about yet another film anniversary and one that it's kind of shocking it's post 500 episodes for us to get to so stay tuned for more harm of the night your summer travels deserve an upgrade with select Chevrolet Buick GMC and Cadillac vehicles connected by OnStar you can stream game and more on the go whether you're headed to a music festival or a cottage getaway you can access hundreds of apps on Google Play right from your center display explore OnStar Tech Today at OnStar.ca and discover how to take your summer to the next level on star better never stops meanwhile in New Jersey so Marissa what talking points do you want to hit on in this week's episode well Jackie let's talk about how the film addresses the patriarchy oh and representation of marginalized people oh and even philosophical ramifications of good verses evil and hard we can point out the triangle boobs talk about the blood splatter and oh the practical effects and also the male gaze my gaze at the males hi oh from feminism to fan girling the Jersey Ghouls cover all the bases apart from a woman's perspective new episodes are uploaded every other Sunday just search Jersey Ghouls to find us on social media and your favorite podcasting up you're listening to the keepscape network