EPISODE · Aug 7, 2026 · 38 MIN
Data as a Product | CDO Matters REPLAY
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Most CDOs talk about data products. Very few approach them the way a product manager would starting with customer need, validating demand, and building only what people will actually use.📌 In this episode:Why scalability without proven demand is a bridge to nowhere and how CDOs fall into that trap constantlyWhat "outside-in" product management looks like in a data function and why it changes everything about how you prioritizeHow Jonathan Reeve's team at BetaNext links financial data assets to create insights clients didn't know they neededWhy influence and storytelling aren't soft skills for data leaders they're the job💬 The takeaway: "You hold the keys to the kingdom. If you're managing data better, you've got the power to influence innovation, product direction, and where investment goes." — Jonathan ReeveAbout the host and guestMalcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Jonathan Reeve is Chief Product Officer at BetaNext, a financial services data company.🔗 Watch + full transcript: profisee.com/podcast/data-as-a-product-summer-replaySubscribe to CDO Matters Monthly → https://profisee.com/cdo-matters-community/#join-communityFollow Malcolm on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/malhawker/Guest → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-reeve-5a62271/
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Most CDOs are building dashboards nobody asked for and calling it a data product. Jonathan Reeve, Chief Product Officer at BetaNext, thinks that's the wrong starting point and the fix isn't more governance, it's product management. Malcolm Hawker sits down with Reeve to work through what it actually means to treat data as a product, why scalability without demand is a bridge to nowhere, and what CDOs can steal from the CPO playbook to become more relevant inside their organizations. Originally released August 2025.
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