Data, ROI, and credentials of value

from Today's Students, Tomorrow's Talent · host Dakota Pawlicki

Earlier this year, Lumina Foundation released an updated Stronger Nation report with a new Credentials of Value tool. On this month's episode, Dakota talks with Courtney Brown and Chris Mullen, going behind the scenes on the creation of the tool, digging into data availability, and ultimately, how we can connect data to strategy. Tom Harnisch of SHEEO also joins the show to highlight states that have made tremendous progress in postsecondary attainment, and share how current state leaders are contending with ROI and changes to the social safety net.

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