David Shipley: Investigating The Darkest Corners Of Digital Evidence

David Shipley, Instructor at Anglia Ruskin University, joins the Forensic Focus Podcast to talk about the human cost of online safeguarding work and his fight to close a gap in UK law. Drawing on 16 years investigating abusive imagery and online child sexual offending, David reflects on what the work actually involves — from the scale of the problem and the relentless build-up of warrants and digital forensic backlogs, to the difficult triage decisions investigators must make when no team can examine every device. He's candid about what "safeguarding" really means in practice, and about the mental toll the role takes on the people who do it. The conversation then turns to David's final year in policing, when his work on the David Fuller case led him to discover that much of the sexual abuse of corpses he was cataloguing was not actually illegal. David explains how he took that discovery from a Ministry of Justice rejection through a lost bill and a change of government to eventual Royal Assent — a four-year campaign that introduced a new offence and raised the maximum sentence for sexual penetration of a corpse from two to seven years. He closes with frank advice for the next generation of investigators on protecting their own well-being and holding onto an investigative mindset. #OnlineSafeguarding #InvestigatorWellbeing #LawReform #Policing #MentalHealth #DigitalForensics #DFIR 00:00 Introducing David Shipley 01:20 An Unusual Route Into Safeguarding 03:23 The Scale Of The Problem 06:55 Warrants, Workload And Backlogs 08:40 Triage: You Can't Examine Everything 11:52 What Safeguarding Really Means 14:46 The Hidden Mental Toll 18:21 How Welfare Support Evolved 22:27 Questionnaires And Team Culture 24:58 The Session That Changed My Mind 26:15 The David Fuller Case 29:27 Retiring, Then Returning To Finish The Job 31:51 Continuity And Limiting Exposure 33:50 Discovering The Gap In The Law 36:38 Shock, Duty And Dignity In Death 38:24 Launching The Campaign 41:11 The Ministry Of Justice Says No 44:05 Setbacks, A Lost Bill And A Second Chance 47:00 Royal Assent And Mixed Emotions 50:31 What The New Law Actually Changes 55:32 Advice For The Next Generation 58:08 Closing Reflections 👉 Visit Forensic Focus: https://www.forensicfocus.com 🎧 Video/Transcript: https://www.forensicfocus.com/podcast/david-shipley-investigating-the-darkest-corners-of-digital-evidence/ 👉 Follow Forensic Focus RSS | https://www.forensicfocus.com/feed YouTube | https://youtube.com/@ForensicFocus Podcast | https://forensicfocus.com/podcast LinkedIn Page | https://linkedin.com/company/forensicfocus LinkedIn Group | https://linkedin.com/groups/693917 X (Twitter) | https://x.com/ForensicFocus Facebook | https://facebook.com/forensicfocus Bluesky | https://bsky.app/profile/forensicfocus.bsky.social Instagram | https://instagram.com/forensicfocus TikTok | https://tiktok.com/@forensicfocus Mastodon | https://dfir.social/@forensicfocus