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Dead End Sports Reacts to Colorado Buffaloes Beating the Baylor Rams in OT Thriller

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This is the place where sports, being a lot of dentists, sports, I mean, it's going to be in astronomy. We got Shelton and Nick. What's going on? What's up?

What's up, man? I look like it. Well, I know we a lot better than Baylor fans right now after they found a way, as Kyle say bad things, found a way to lose. This scene found so many ways to lose this game.

Like we were recording with all this respect. Make sure you guys, if you guys want to hear that, Nick, Spike and I, that'll be on a, it's the mic, slow Patreon account. And the first one was, of course, well, let me set the tape. Let me set the tape.

Colorado Buffalo went in OT 3831 off of a force fumble by Travis Hunter in the end zone, which resulted in a touch back, clear walk on, walk in touchdown that they could have had after Shador worked some magic with a hell of a pass to send a game into OT to hit Webster for the, the, the game time touchdown, which were all great place that Colorado made because Baylor allowed them to make them. Baylor is an awful, awful team. They are absolutely terrible. They first lost the season.

Give us their second loss of the season. I'll say. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Colorado made all the plays. I'm not going to take anything away from that for all intents and purposes. That was a lost game. But number one, going back to the first half, go up 2014 and I saw a receiver drop the wide open touchdown.

And then, and then I saw another touchdown that Baylor gave up when the DB on the, when it looked like he was down, they were like two Baylor defenders standing at watching. Didn't even try to go tackle them. They just assumed he was down. So that resulted in touchdown.

Third quarter, you know, was pretty much a push. And then the fourth quarter went all the excitement happened. So you get us. Oh, and that's not even including all of the missed tackles credit to Shador for escaping those sacks, because he did a good job of getting out of that, but they, they, they didn't tackle him a couple of times, but in the fourth quarter, they turned around and filed a way to, to get him down on the ground.

Um, um, for a punt, you didn't feel go range and got very, very conservative with the terrible calls that they made. Mr. Field go left the opening for Shador and Shador had a great scramble on third and 20 second and 24th to cut it down to 37, made a couple more plays and then it was two seconds left. And this is where Baylor filed a way to lose the game.

They called the timeout. I don't understand why teams play prevent defense. They got in pressure with four defenders that drive, you line up three to the left, Shador and his great play tonight rolled to the right, but you cut the field in half, the safety in sitting there, instead of drifting over to Shador, just that there and then Shador made a hell of a play to tie the game. And it was just, it was just great play by Colorado and Shador overcoming, which I thought was a bad coach about dealing late because I think he almost got in the game with his misuse of timeouts.

Um, but Baylor blew this game in every single way that I just detailed and Colorado did what they should have done and they won the game. Terrible, bro. Um, I thought I wasn't on the last recap that y'all did, um, because that Colorado game was interesting as well. But this one is the first game that I'd probably say this is probably a top two if not for me number one, Shador Sander's game.

Um, he was getting hit all night. He was down and out. This could have been easy or blow up like you said, but he got this team back in the game and obviously got to give credit to Travis Hunter for being Travis Hunter. But also, like you said, can't Western remember the nickname is elder, you know what I'm saying?

Like, cause he got up. I ain't trying to be, I ain't trying to be, I ain't trying to be, I ain't trying to be too this way. We got a crazy first name, but he was balling. He was balling this game.

He showed up clutch. Um, they may put number 14 in the transfer for who dropped that easy walk in touchdown. Um, that was, that was just egregious, especially for like, they could have went for two right then and then the game sooner than they go into OT, which I think, I think someone was predicted in check. But now this is a short time.

This is a grade A, like, cause I've been calling for him and I've been asking, like, I started off this season. I was like, bro, I don't know how we can judge the door. If he doesn't will this team to win as a top QB coming into the upcoming NFL draft, but he bought out like a first round grade this year. Like he was getting hit all night.

His offensive line is shit ball. I don't even know. They must get paid on the table or something. I swear.

I swear to the ball got hiked. To it was right. I'm just running for his life. I don't know if they didn't time to snap count that well, but damn.

Um, but now I got to get pretty weird. It's great to do it. He did his thing, bro, like, and he just kept getting back up and just trying to make a play. Like he went down literally seconds in the fourth quarter.

Like he was holding on the one thing that you like and this like about him is how much he holds on the ball. Cause sometimes that's probably could he just throw the ball away. You don't have to take that ugly sack, but other times he made plays and it's because he tries to hold onto the ball long enough to get somebody open or to see what's how it develops. But I just came with very impressed by him.

This was a much needed window by Colorado cause if they lost this game the way it was going, bro, we definitely talking about Dion differently. You know what I'm saying? Cause my grade for them this season that they got to give at least five games. They have to improve upon what they did last season.

I think it's six and I'm saying, and I bring that up again because like, I showed nothing. We all went through the game. They're scared. Like we like these next three games, bro.

Like these, these are the vocal where you supposed to win your games so that anything on top of this is icing on the cake. Like it's your guarantee for wins here. Cause they should win next week to, I believe. And then after that, that's when they see and get started because we saw, we saw you talk Oklahoma State game and eight, they, if they was, if the, if Baylor's getting behind this line, if Nebraska was getting behind this line that quick, they got some shit coming up for them when they get deep into the big, big, big 12.

But I'm going to get credit where they did, did they think? Yeah, they did. And it was a big win for the program. They needed like, like we did cover earlier, you need all these early wins.

You got to talk about wins early because it is going to get much greater later. It's going to get a lot harder going forward. And the same, we see a lot of the same issues out of the Colorado team that we've seen for the past couple of years. There's no protection.

We talked about that. The defense has stepped up and showed some life at times. So there's times when, when they make plays, when need to be made, there's still a lot of deficiencies, but they do step up at times. And it's going to be interesting to see Central Florida next week.

I think it's going to be a tougher game than we expect. But if she knew plays like he plays tonight, then they'll be all right. But he, he showed, he showed you why he should be the top quarterback on the board in my opinion. I just think on that far, yeah.

I can go that far because he's doing what he's supposed to do. He can't do it himself. And you know, basically if you look at it, he's making plays where there's no, that's why he holds the boss so long because he doesn't make a play. They don't have a play.

They're running game. You know, I would say I would be a little harder on a dead, a little bit of running game, a little bit of passing protection scheme. I would be a little hard on him, but to do what he does with, with no protection and no run support, you got to get it managed. Oh, it's my birthday to you, man.

Happy birthday to me. Yeah, I just realized. Yeah. Okay.

I have a version for real. Why were you impressed by this game? It was more so, it was corn is awful. This has nothing to do with Baylor.

This is more so about like what does Shadora do when his back is against the wall? That's what I feel like he's going to have to do most of this season. But it's not that before though. I don't know if this is a good measure.

Yeah, this schedule, this season is harder than it was last season. And like, oh, yeah, he got to it. Yeah, never mind. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is what he's going to have to go through this season based off these games right now. To me, it's like I judge a quarterback is like, if you're good enough, you can get us the shitty wins. Like, as far as like the shitty teams, you should be able to to, what the hell celebrate.

But I feel like if you're a good quarterback, like Heisman went in, play off, play off-camera. You should be able to be the shitty teams. We judge you based off how you play the good to great teams. And I'm not saying Baylor is good to great, but I'm saying like, these are the shitty wins that he should get.

You know what I'm saying? UCF, even though Sheldon trying to gas them up, I'm not worried about them. Now, right now, Kansas State is down against BYU, but it's the halftime. We don't know.

It's like 6 to 17. So it looks like it's a defensive game. If they end up losing that, they may drop down their ranking, but right now, Kansas State's right 13. That's the test that I'm waiting on to see what they look like.

You know what I'm saying? I'm anticipating seeing what Shadora looks like under those team. But for now, he's got to win these games. However, he does it good, bad, ugly.

And he showed me a lot in these ugly games that he can still be good. He can wield his team for win. Yeah, I'm still seeing struggles. And what I will give the uncredited for tonight is he stayed committed to the run game.

And I think that helped out a lot. I just don't think Baylor is that impressive and important. And let me tell you two of the wins they had, Nick, came against Air Force. They won 31 to 3.

And then Tarleton State. Okay. So that's how he got to 2-in-1. You know what it was, Ken, for me, is seeing how bad that offensive line is.

Now I kind of understand why he called him out. Because the reason why I'm saying this now is because I'm already predicting. As the season gets harder, that pass rush is going to get way more difficult. And he needs to be able to overcome a bad offensive line, which he had to this game.

Like, don't care what you want to say about Baylor. They were in his face. He got what he was like, he got sacked at least four times. He got hit a lot.

He got hit like, so he's tough. I didn't know how tough he was until this game. I may be late on that, but this was a tough dude game. And I'm still get the dub.

I'm still throwing a perfect spiral to the spot that it needs to be like. Yeah, that was a great pass. Yeah, look, I applauded and gave Colorado all of the praise that they deserve. But I also saw that they were gifted this win.

They were. A lot of goofy shit had to happen, but Ken, I win. You want to try to get the five? Yeah, I mean, there was one pass he threw where he got destroyed.

He stood in there and he threw it and it was a great pass. And I committed for that, the whole line is terrible. And that helped that impact some a lot. It's just, I'm just not impressed when this was a game that they should have lost.

And again, I'm seeing you whoop, whoop, whoop. I want to say this to Tuscany. He's aware every husband winner any kind of college football. I mean, we looked at Michigan versus USC.

You know what I'm saying? Those are the games that we judge teams off of, but mostly stats based off like these Michigan league programs. They give them all shitball teams. They all the Alabama when they're undefeated.

Three or four of those wins against it like who the fuck a university? Yeah, but they beat the fuck out of them, right? They do. There's like, there's no doubt against those teams.

Like, so it's either Colorado's playing down to the level of competition or this is Colorado media at their level of competition. And Jamar Moore and DJ of 80 says, yeah, I am a math that they won the game because this is a game that they should not have won. Like what I want to see, I hate when I'm like this, I prefer to see dominance. And I don't, I think there's credit to the resilience of this team, to the mental toughness of this team, to what you're saying is the mental fortitude to find a way to win a game.

There's a lot of value in that. And that could become critical down the stretch. But and also somebody said, JB talking about because he liked channels like us because no matter what y'all still in the talk, trash, we get proof roll. What the fuck would we prove roll last year?

Huh? Well, we're, because let's not forget that this is the same way they started like last year. And we saw that ended. All right.

That's, that's, that's the whole point of my expectations going into this season, because you was asking like, what am I seeing differently this season in the last season? I'm like, we have legit expectations now. Before last year, we didn't know what to expect from Colorado. They surprised us with TCU.

And then all of a sudden we just jumped on that bandwagon, not knowing that this is a rebuild project. So now that, so now that I know what this is, I'm looking at it from that standpoint of like, yeah, like Shador, you shouldn't, you should at least win five games this season. If you not win a five games this season, what the fuck is we talking about? You ain't your daddy.

You know what I'm saying? And Shador, you need to look good, like a first round top five QB in that process because that's what people telling me is. If those two things don't happen and they have to happen for all this to make sense, then I will, I will reclaim all the shit that I'm saying about them right now. But until I see that, I have my, I got my doubts, but I'm going to be critiquing it along the way.

And if you look good, it look good. And he looked really good. He looked great this game. I think he always looked good at his teams like this though.

And that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know if this, look, he's going to be top one or two QB anyway, like the talent is there. Like I don't know about that game. I'm almost there, Nick.

I'm there with Travis. I don't need to see anything else. I hate when people do that because we already said that's obvious. Travis is the best player in college football right now.

I don't think anybody's really quick. I was slow to get on Travis though. No, no, no, no. Travis was just cooking.

When I first heard that Travis plays offense and defense and last season, last season proved it with Travis for me. The shit he did last season, he's like the TJ of this team where it's like, you know, you know the quarterback is the most important position because that's literally how you're probably going to win in those games. However, you're talking about impact player on like who's the most valuable player on this team. It's this guy.

It's our defensive offensive guy because his defense creates offense, but for Travis, he is literally playing offense too. So it's like, and then the reason why I like this game for Shador is that he didn't have to go to just Travis this game. He created another weapon in number 10. Everybody keep on talking about these wide receivers and then being grade one wide receivers, you know, that could be NFL wide receivers.

I was like, I've been waiting to really see it. And number 10 has been showing out because I think he showed that last game too. Like, number 10 has really showed out and like to me, we found out like this is now the trio offense. I like Shador Webster.

Is that the one who dropped that pass? That's the one you thought that pass. Don't talk about this game here. I like Western or Ailda, but how he says his name, Shador and Travis, those are the three offensive stars of this of this, that's going to propel them to wins.

And obviously Travis is the defense. The star in general, but Shador and Western, like they're going to, they're going to make things interesting because he catches everything and he's like a good round runner. So Travis makes plays on both sides of the ball every game. He does something on both sides every game.

That's what makes him so great on defense. He shuts down the side of the field and on offense, you get in the ball and magic happens every time he's going to get you a hundred yards. No matter what, you can, you can book that. That's going to happen.

So Travis is like you said, he is the best player in college football by far. You just hope he don't get burned out and get hurt. What should do it brings to the table is that he can make all the throws. He's usually a heady player.

I think Shador, he shows that he has the middle four to two to get it done. You know he got toughness because he gets hit almost every play. He's getting hit every play and a lot of players can't stand in the pocket and take that. So the fact that he does, he has the middle four to two to get that done.

That speaks volumes for me. That's why I'm so high on Shador as a player. Because like I said, there's a lot of guys we know that get praised for a lot less. So you know, for me, it's not just the wins and losses.

Like I said, he can't play defense too. He got to be able to do what he needs to do to keep them in games, which is score points. You give, you score 38 points. You score over 30 points a game.

You should be in those games and winning those games. At some point, defense has to step up and take some accountability for this as well. So you can't play both. You don't play both sides.

So they losing these games in this 40, 45 to 38. We're not going to fall to him for that. First of all, what I do fall to four is like, why do you look like you're about to stitch on the mob boss? You fix the fixer lighter than that day.

You look like you're like the last thing I'm about to see before I go to the other side. I would have liked some of my life. I had to move because my computer was dying. You got behind behind you.

Somebody said you didn't do these winning. I was going to acknowledge that. I was going to acknowledge that. But I got to Christian.

Yeah. Don't give me that name. TJ, I'll go back. I'll fix it later.

Look, look, because somebody asked, is there anybody on the schedule that they beat that I would be impressed by? And, you know, and I'm going to remain visually. But I would like to point out for all the people that think I'm hating on Colorado, I'm actually one of the few on the panel that they think are going to do. They're going to be like, I'm actually the biggest.

I'm the one that was like, I think they got. I think I said they can get to six wins. I actually think they're going to be a lot over before and what people actually talk about this team. We always got to pull up the schedule.

We got to ask somebody, all right, which wins we talk about? All right. So they beat Baylor. Okay.

They play UCF next Saturday. That's before one. I don't think they're famous. They're favorite.

I don't think so. If they can't be UCF. The UCF is three and Obra. The UCF is favored 84% on the match up.

They're going to be UCF. So I'm getting their favorite to lose that game, which I'll ask three. Who was favorite tonight? I'm sorry, Nick.

Baylor was tonight. It was about it was about one and a half. So it was a toss up. Yeah.

That's a game is not a toss up. The UCF game is a 10 and a half in favor of UCF. So they say it's by more than the touchdown. They say it's a two score game regardless.

So I'll say this. I still expect them to be UCF says that's a game that you need to win because if they, because right now they, I feel like their goal is we got to get to a bowl game. So I mean, you got to at least get to six to eight wins. They say six to seven, but I'll say six to eight.

Um, six to eight wins. So they got two right now, but I got three right now. Um, so they need three more. So they play UCF next on the road.

That's a win for me. No, so that's, okay. So that's for they play Kansas state at home. They're going to be either ranked 13th where they are now still or get dropped down.

They probably get dropped down to the bottom 20, but I still think they'll be ranking as they lose tonight against Baylor. I mean, BYU, um, either way, I'm saying I don't think they be Kansas state. After that they go on the road to Arizona. So that's five.

I agree with that. Obviously I'm biased, but they did my boys did whip up on Houston tonight or today. They play Cincinnati at home. Their favorite to beat Cincinnati.

This is the only one that gave for sure. But I'll be willing to say, yeah, they gave win that game against Cincinnati. So that's six. So then so now they're technically in the bowl game range, but one more win was to let them in it.

Then they play the last four games against their on the road at Texas Tech that at home against Utah, which Utah definitely will be a top 10 team by then based on how they playing. They're on the road against Kansas. And then their last game is at home against Oklahoma state and Oklahoma state barely lost. So yeah, they're only favorite against Cincinnati for the rest of the season.

That's the only game in the world. That's what they last for. They last for us tough. The worst is UCF.

They expect you to see up the dominating. So they win that should overshoot me a lot. You know what I'm saying to me, like if it should door can get a winning record out of this season, bro, he's definitely the top five QB in my mind. I think I think they'll get to six or seven, bro.

If they get to seven, he's a top five QB. If they get to six, he's top 10. If they get to six, he's top five with this schedule. And then too, like I said, you, you, y'all keep not looking at it as the team.

This is a team sport. He can beat this man can come out and go for 400 yards a game and give you four touchdowns. And they're still going to lose some of these games because they're not playing defense. You got to look at it from both sides.

It's not just gift for when to win or lose. It's how you win or lose. Don't talk about it. Unless you explain it from sports, 70 points a game.

You may lose a game. Like I said, you can lose a game 3845. It's just, it's a thing now. To me is this show.

I do agree with you. They let this work. This is what I mean. They had to run around.

He was a toddler. Trying to avoid taking the bad. That's how he was running around that guy. My thing is this though, the defense to me is like, we understand certain teams going to play good defense and certain teams not.

I gave up on Colorado defense a long time ago. So door to me, this is about Shador's drive stop. I don't really give a damn about the season. I'm only saying the wins would translate to how well he is going to have to perform to get them in bold contention, which means that to me, he's going to show why he's a top five top 10 QB coming into this drive.

To me, like, like to Ken's point, if he gets to six, he's top 10. This roster without offensive line with this schedule, winning six games has got to be impressive. He got to do some impressive shit like he did tonight. Winning seven to eight, which proves that he will be a top five.

Like he is that dude. Any organization who's looking for a QB should have high on their list. You know what I'm saying? If he wins seven to eight, anything more than that, like getting into the college football play off the shit.

Oh shit. We talk about it. It's him and Travis one and two. I guess I just look at it for the whole totality of it.

You know, we've had quarterbacks drafted super high. That ain't one shit. You look at Drake May last year with the North Carolina win with Drake May. Nothing.

I'm talking about is one of the greatest quarterbacks out there, which is crazy that they were even having him ranked number one on a lot of this for quarterbacks. They didn't win anything with him. You look at K. Williams.

They didn't win anything and he was the number one draft. So I can't say that this team has to win for Shadur to be the number one quarterback in this draft or the number two or top five for that matter is how he performs when he's on the his feet on the field. On the side of the team is on his side of the ball is out there. How they look with him at the captain of the ship is what matters the most his throws is he's making all the throws.

Is he staying in the game regardless of score? They don't matter whether they win or not. It's what they do. Marty said those guys you name one more than Shadur.

I'm not going through the wreck archives to look as I don't really care that much. I just thought I was going to say that. But I don't know man. These things are hit amiss.

Shadur can play in a position. But we thought Bryce young can play in a position. A lot of these guys we think can play in the position. You don't have to dim another man's like to have another man shine bro.

You're not doing that. Bryce is in franchise. Bryce is in franchise Hill right now. Bryce is in franchise Hill.

But no I think you'll be a fool not to take Shadur one or two. I think that's a given. I don't even know if that's even much of a conversation but I understand what you're saying Nick. But yeah I still looking at this guy as well.

I think it's seven. You over here. I remember they lose all I know is that they lose it since that he showed me coming here having a conversation. We got it.

We got it. That's at home too. That was another thing too. I'm looking at these home games as well.

I'm looking at home actually means a lot to me more than especially with college football. I feel like other people kind of really keep you know there's a reason why there's certain places like going to the face of Michigan on the road or going to like you know what I'm saying you see like the atmosphere does play a factor into it and then how will you play. You know it just enhances that. So I do think that Colorado also won this off the strength of their fan base like they that was that was a mean ass crowd that they have and I know it helped them with some play calling and stuff like that.

So the one bit of credit I do give them is they look like they're playing a lot harder. They don't look like like before we would have seen this team fold when things ain't going right and it kind of hung in there and that was that was impressive for me. I'm used to that like I'm using them laying down you know when it gets smacked in the mouth that's usually it for them but they hung in there. So that's a good sign.

That's a good sign and I saw the coaches fired up on the sidelines as well. That's that's that's that's that's speaks by. Well I bet they're probably saying they know where in the hill which we lose to this. Sorry that's white boy.

Throw the ball. If they were if they want to lost this game like to me that's that's the thing is like if they were to lost this game we have a whole different conversation. So I'm not this nice. You know I'm saying if you win you win especially the way that they want.

Yeah because I was about to be like but we have a conversation about Deanna's a coach. But you know what because he does he out there walking like the penguin but he ain't coming up with no scheme. He's like waddling up and down the sideline like bro what's going on bro. You know your time situation is trash.

But I just you know I just I just be looking at Travis I don't know what we talked about but Travis is is is crazy man. I pray that this man can stay healthy because I would love to see that I can't wait to see this in the league and how it's going to translate to the NFL. But that dude is just amazing like every game is something where there's a big interception because of fun with the night to win this game. Just it's something every single time.

It's not like you know you can count on you can book you look at every game and say that's Travis play. They go Travis you know Travis did this. That's why I said what I said on this like it's a no brainer. He's the number one pick if you have the number one pick unless no need.

I don't even know who else you would pick beside Travis like just just offer just the strength like you could have the best you could be the the Jets who got the best secondary you would say I was like the Jets who else like anything anything you know anything as a person you still picking them. Yeah you definitely do because regardless like I said he wants to play both sides and. I don't know what Travis ain't doing this shit in the NFL. He picking once he's picking one.

I don't think your place. He's going to be he's not playing the whole game because but he'll be a part of he's gonna be pumped return and he's gonna be a corner that's what he's gonna be as a rookie he's going with offensive rookie here. You know what he's gonna be an offensive rookie here and he's gonna be a defensive rookie here. Hey Nick is that quarterback in Michigan winning an offense rookie to you if he makes it.

Wait a minute. I'm gonna say I was starting to use my spy blue voice to say that's a running back. You like a orgy. I don't care.

Oh man. I just I just. Man I just. Okay that's not the orgy I like.

Oh that's right. Right. What you. That's the wrong one.

Run. That's the Diddy or G. That's what I was thinking. I was thinking I was gonna say.

Hey Nick it kind of looked like that because all I saw was I run into the back of a bunch of two. Oh man. You know the call. I love getting the time.

Bro as much as we talk about how Bayley Chalk is getting away bro. You see got to be sick. You see that. We get Riley Brown.

Yeah. That shit was so goof ballish. They didn't they didn't they just forgot how to tackle. No they didn't run.

They just thought. Yeah. It was like football. It was like a matting game like a matting glitch.

He was like. That didn't boil on him too because they just like. Well shit. Speaking of guy that can't coach around more almost gave it up.

You know this motherfucker can't throw and on top of that you haven't been calling plastic passes to get him in a throw rhythm and you jump into a pistol to try to do a throw to the back. What are they going like? There's a miracle they go. He'll cost him a game.

He'll cost him. You know what it's going to be. Can is they and they say even if with entity or just like a mistake or they go for it. It's ass is he going to be done after that.

But that Ohio State game they got coming up. He may get embarrassed. What was that? Wait.

No, who's that starting quarterback or just not starting quarterback. He didn't win that job. Is it it was it was a white but the white guy he can throw but he can throw. It's some guy named David Gerard.

It's something like that. I'm saying that this office play common is basic as hell and they got two basic ass quarterbacks. You're not going to go on the Ohio State. I think it's going to be I think it's going to be at Ohio State right this season.

I have a check but you can go on a road with that going to the horseshoe thing that you're going to come out there with a victory with that kind of offense because it wasn't basically like you would see like you mentioned Kevin to show you a C card on to the office. Wait, then if it wasn't for the pick six this game is not as close as we look at it. You know what I'm saying? I pick six was ugly and that was a great read by the corner.

We don't know if we did score offense and so it's literally the last 30 seconds of the game. Like they got shut out. We would definitely start the bar so I mean to make them people would force if I was close against them. I would force them to try to throw the ball.

It's not happening. It's not happening. It's not. Yeah, yeah, which is what they weren't able to do is you know and shit that Miller said no, Moss whatever name is the quarter of your seat.

He did his thing. He had a couple of throws he was putting in the bread basket. I ain't going to hold you. Now he took a lot of sacks that he may or may not have needed to take but he tried to win this game for his team just his defense has let it down.

Yeah, they have to go to Ohio State or getting to light him up Ohio State going to light him up. You have to play Illinois like this. These these these new niggas coming to this conference that they didn't like being in the big 10 because they these this ain't for the flashy. I realize that the only the most flashes team in the big 10 I would say is Ohio State and even then they still have a run game and a good defense.

Yeah. And Michigan does play Ohio State out on in Columbus. Yeah, it's grounded out football and you ain't ready for that. And it's cold.

So he's cool. Yeah, that's that's a totally different type of football and speak but some warm football. I'm proud of Cam Moore. Cam Moore that 400 yards a day pre-tune.

I don't know. Cam's I mean, I know he's not playing against the greatest competition in the world but he's consistent with the stats and I just don't I don't see I don't know what I didn't even look at the highs and highs but I don't see how you can take it from him if he continues to play. Well, to me that's that's the QB I'm looking at show is as far as like if you ask him be like who else are you considering outside of Shador? I'm looking at him.

I got to look at the schedule but he definitely bought out today. And he's playing better competition is that yes or no? I don't know. He's playing he's playing decent to mediocre competition.

He's had a couple games in there the way you know against some good teams played Florida with Florida struggled early but still you know part of that was playing Miami but he's looking good against everybody he's ever in a schedule is easy from here on out. So all he has to do is continue to play like he's playing he's he's a hard run right now. He's followed by Jackson Dart who balling out at Ole Miss to Jackson Dart is nice. I'll sleep on.

I mean we'll see how this is. He's playing nobody broke. He's easy as scheduled especially with Louisville only one that you really got to worry about. That's something I'm the saddest more so look at his stats and how you throw the football that's why I would probably pick up.

Yeah, he's putting up big stats. He may stay in and going to the league he may stay in the same city because the ball is definitely drafting somebody with this whole two of situations. Yeah, he might but yeah. He's up there in that running for that top guy.

I still think Travis to be honest, you know, we'll see how the rest of the season plays out but Travis should be mentioned in the top three. If nothing else he should be, you know, he should be up there but he's not right now. You're talking about husband? Yeah, husband.

Oh, he's going to get credit for it. No, he's not going to happen. And honestly I don't think Cam Wars get all that much credit with some of the guys he plans. I'm just going to as a prospect can because wins and losses and everything but for certain people they are.

He's putting up wins and he's putting up stats and that's what's going to be the separating factor that and once again he's looking good doing it. So I'll be more impressed if he goes undefeated and how and how dominant they look through that process. That's what I'm trying to say. He can go undefeated unlike Shadoor.

No, and I've only watched like one game of his tomorrow. So but I like what I saw but I do take into account the level of competition because the NFL players are just fucking, look at Caleb Williams, y'all. The NFL is fucking different. Y'all like this shit fucking matters.

Who they play again? I can say look at Josh Allen and he coming from Wyoming like what was his main competition? He wasn't, he was up. He had to develop to get to where he was.

That's what I'm saying. A lot of it depends on where you end up and the system you're in and the coaching you receive. You got to have the right things. You got to be in the right situation.

I was seeing what Nick Saban was talking about, Bryce and he was saying, you know, you got to surround him with the right people. He has to have the right people around him to be successful. And that's all these guys to be honest. We talked about Josh Allen in the beginning.

He was not that at first and he got in a situation you brought those guys in from Carolina but the new coaching staff, the new GM, they put people in place to make his job easier. And now we see Josh Allen doing Josh Allen things. So it really just depends on where you land and the support system around. Yeah, but Josh Allen could have easily been a bust.

Like he was close to being a bust. He just he just got fortunate that they brought in some some QB coach that came in. And look, it could operate in reverse. I mean, I had to bring him back up again, but Bryce Young was planning his league competition and look, he gets an NFL and now we don't know if he can play or not, you know, to a lot of people.

Wow. You know how you can tell Ken because I'm so excited to tell me, please because two things. One, you can't go back and watch this college. Two, you can see the amount of people in the interest he's drawing from other teams.

Everybody trying to get them to get him for a first round of tomorrow. But and for first round, people, teams are interested. They want to take a flyer on him because he gets rave reviews from certain coaches. It's a huge up in the most shitty situation you could ever be in.

I don't think that means much of anything. I think that they think that their program is better than their Panthers program, which is probably more than likely a fan. But that don't mean that he can still play. I mean, he's just in the shittiest position.

That's what it is. It's just like he's not in a program to where we can rightfully judge if he can play or not. That's what I hear everybody saying. Right.

I just from what I've seen, I don't know if that'll help much. It will, man. Because like I said, it means the world. Man, if you're confident in what you have and what you're going out there in your game playing, everything is lined up.

It's easy to do your job. Some people can't they can't work in those conditions. And he's one of the ones where he like I said, he means help. He does.

We just said it. Josh Allen, if Josh Allen had been in the situation like that, we would not have the Josh Allen we have today. If they did not put him in a system network for him, if they did not put the time into him, if they didn't surround him with a couple of good players, he wouldn't be the guy that we see leading this team today. Same thing for a lot of these guys.

That's what I'm saying. Same thing. A lot of them, they had to get to the right position. Yeah.

That press got to play in when he was at Mississippi State. He elevated that program. Yeah. Yeah.

That goes underrated. And people don't, people speaking of the college stage showing you look at back at that Bryce Young here is like, he didn't also, he didn't have some of the stack rosters with that to a, and Jay Lenherse head. But I do think that in Bryce Young was in a system like the Dolphins with Mike McDaniel, like he knows how to work with that. He'd be already like, and you got the weapons, like everything would be better for Bryce.

And you get a, you probably get a further round pit. Maybe if you want to do a second, because you trying to win now. So you're really worried about drafting nobody to add. I just think that he just needs to get the fuck about it.

Carolina, because they don't, they don't literally kill his career. They are. And like I said earlier, the best thing that ever could have happened to him, believe it not, they're talking about his confidence. The best thing that ever could have happened to him was to be benched.

Because right now you get the one A, you get to sit back and learn a little bit. He, all the pressures off you, now it's on the organization. Now they're looking at them like they should be anyway. And see if he's lucky enough, he'll get moved.

But it's not, it's not always on these guys, man. They gotta, they gotta get, they gotta get the help and the support of the coach. Because it's not over. You don't, you don't get to the league and that's, that's just it.

You are who you are. It's development that happens. That's where it's always been. That's where it's always been.

Like I said, we were fooled. We were spoiled by the Joe Burrows and a couple of these young guys like the CJ Straus and people like that. That's not the norm. That is the, that was the- I heard you shit on quarterbacks that came to the league and now you try the copper- I should don't burrow.

I should don't burrow. But like I said- Zach Wilson, all these other guys that proved that they couldn't play. No, no, no. See, if you go back with Zach, I talked about Zach before he got to the league.

I know that's what I'm saying. In college, like he showed me in college that he was not worth what they were building him up to be. Same thing with some of these other guys. I saw a boss, which I, I'm not, you know, these guys know more than me.

But they see it too. I know they saw Zach, all they saw Zach do was a couple of fans of the girls. But I was like, that's not it. Same thing with Josh Rose.

That wasn't it. I did not have it. They never had it coming in. It's different when you see it.

Like, with Bryce Young, you saw things in college. You saw him flash a little bit. So that was a difference. So you know, when they get to the league, they should have leased that flash.

We both talk about flashing all the time. You should have leased that flash a little bit in college to get there. But once you're there, that's when they develop. Well, Bryce Young and even been a freaking light bulb.

What did they say? But- Bryce Young and my house right now. You flashing with a ear. I'm not sure.

But look, look, look. I will say this. The situation is bad. I don't know how we got here.

But I'm willing to see that if he goes to a better situation, if he can actually play. I don't know. I don't know. But- Yeah.

It's hard, Ken, when you ain't got nobody open. Ain't nobody open and then that pocket closing quick. That's when I'm there. I don't know.

So when we look at these guys like Shadoura and Ken, what happens when these guys get in there and these guys are not open like that? You know, so I don't know, man. That's why I like to see certain things when it comes to these guys. So in the level of competition, they play everybody running wide open in college.

You know, so, so they like to feel. We'll see. I'm just saying we all Shadoura watch the rest of this season, Ken. That's all out of the week.

We pick the games. We scheduled them. Next, you do a cool little fan. You got to give them that credit book.

I gave them credit this whole episode. We get 14 in the chest. I'd have been crying for, I'd have been done for, now I wouldn't have done for you. That was, that was, to me, that showed a lot of composure during the, in a high intense situation when you easily could have won the game just off of that or at least tie.

Right. And then it come right back to the next play and make a play like that's, and that's my number 10, so that's a great catch too. Oh, right. You don't get that play without the catch.

So we'll see next week. They play, like you said, the juggernaut, what are you, what is UCF? See, that's right. Trying to hype up UCF.

I see what y'all trying to do. Y'all trying to hype up UCF. So that way when they beat them, y'all can see here and come on and brag about it. No, I'm not sold.

I think all these, I'm not sold, bro. I'm not sold. Marty, I'm just, look Marty, somebody got to be the lead runner in the room. And that's just going to be me.

That's all I'm saying. So, you know, but yeah, anyway, great win by Dion, great throw by Shadoura to tie the game. Great play by Travis Hunter to seal the game. Those guys stood up and made plays.

Everybody did a step beyond because he almost blew it with his time of hopes at the end of the game. But they all managed to overcome his mediocre coaching and a three and one and they're halfway there. That's home. I'll shout out one last thing.

Shout out to that dude that Anthony Josh was asking tonight to unbox. Y'all missed it. All right. Well, that'll do it first, man.

We'll catch you guys next time. We off, peace. Peace.

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