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May 17, 2026 48 min

Can the Tarot Assist with Decolonization? | with Christopher Marmolejo Author of The Red Tarot

from Belief, Being, & BEYOND! Hosted by Granddaughter Crow

Text or VM the Show Tarot isn’t just a mirror for your personal life. It can also be a language for breaking the spell of colonized thinking. We sit down with Christopher Marmolejo, author of The Red Tarot, to talk about divination as a “literacy of liberation” and what it looks like to read the cards through a queer, trans, decolonial lens. We get honest about how colonization trains us to treat certain kinds of knowledge as “real” and dismiss spirit, ancestors, ritual, and psychic experience as irrational. We also connect this to the Missing Witches Reparations Fundraiser and why reparations are about repair, not charity. From there, we make it practical. We explore what “colonized” interpretations can sound like in tarot, especially around gender, relationships, and the pressure to predict one correct future. Christopher reframes the Twos in the minor arcana, showing how the Two of Cups can hold fluid identity and two-spirit resonance, how the Two of Swords can reveal dissociation and silence born from trauma, and how the Two of Pentacles can invite you to learn by experience instead of following a rigid map. We close with a grounding reminder: we don’t know what we don’t know, and staying curious keeps the spirit from getting exhausted. If this conversation helps you spot a blind spot or name a block, share it with a friend, subscribe, and leave a review so more listeners can find Belief Being and Beyond. Thank you for supporting Belief, Being, & BEYOND! Your generosity helps sustain a woman-owned small business and an independent podcast dedicated to bringing authentic voices and meaningful conversations into the world. As a Navajo woman, I’m honored to share my perspective and create space for deeper connection, curiosity, and exploration. Your support truly makes a difference. ❤️ Support the show Granddaughter Crow - www.granddaughtercrow.com Become a Member and Support the Podcast: Check Out My Patreon https://www.patreon.com/GranddaughterCrow Check Out My Substack https://substack.com/@granddaughtercrow Social Media: @GranddaughterCrow YouTube Channel: @GranddaughterCrow Jenny C Bell - https://www.jennycbell.com/ Jenny’s Our Coven Community https://our-coven.mn.co/landing For more from Jenny: https://linktr.ee/Jennyc.bell?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=ba12a9e9-bd17-4699-9e70-68c74fb3c96f

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Text or VM the Show Tarot isn’t just a mirror for your personal life. It can also be a language for breaking the spell of colonized thinking. We sit down with Christopher Marmolejo, author of The Red Tarot, to talk about divination as a “literacy of liberation” and what it looks like to read the cards through a queer, trans, decolonial lens. We get honest about how colonization trains us to treat certain kinds of knowledge as “real” and dismiss spirit, ancestors, ritual, and psychic experien...

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Can the Tarot Assist with Decolonization? | with Christopher Marmolejo Author of The Red Tarot

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  1. 0:00 Welcome Back And Reparations Fundraiser
  2. 2:12 Who Christopher Is And Why It Matters
  3. 6:39 Colonization As A Way Of Knowing
  4. 14:23 Decolonizing Classrooms And Literacy
  5. 19:33 Spotting Colonized Thinking In Ourselves
  6. 23:01 Reading The Twos Beyond The Binary
  7. 26:06 Modern Decks And Indigenous Created Tarot
  8. 36:04 Wise Child Energy And Processing Pain
  9. 43:06 Where To Find Christopher And Learn More
  10. 45:21 What Lies Beyond And Closing Notes

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