DEEP DIVE: Who's really pulling the strings in parliament?

Does there need to be more transparency around lobbying? A Four Corners investigation has revealed dozens of former defence officials, including ministers, high-ranking officers and senior staffers, have jumped from government roles into lucrative lobbying firms or the defence sector.So, do we need to see tougher rules around lobbying? In this week's Deep Dive, we hear from someone who has been researching exactly how corporations influence politics. Guests: Jennifer Lacy-Nichols, senior research fellow, University of MelbourneKonrad Benjamin, Punters PoliticsGet the whole story from hack:Follow us on Instagram and TikTokSubscribe to the hack podcastListen on the triple j app or on your radio live every weeknight at 5:30pm