EPISODE · Mar 7, 2026 · 2H 7M

Deep Secret

from Eight Days of Diana Wynne Jones · host Rebecca Fraimow and Emily Tesh

I thought of Uncle Ted's wobbly windows, and I began to think he must really, truly never look through them or anything else. Can't anyone look out there and see that you need not to think of everything in terms of what works or what they ought to do?Game dev and narrative expert Ariella Bouskila joins us for a discussion of bad colleagues, sick empires, beautiful boys, katabasis ducks, and the magic that can be found all around us if you have the eyes to see but can perhaps especially be found at a 1990s science fiction convention. NB: As much as we would like not to, this one inevitably contains some conversation about Neil Gaiman. Transcript available here, and we'll be wrapping up our season in two weeks with Dark Lord of Derkholm!

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I thought of Uncle Ted's wobbly windows, and I began to think he must really, truly never look through them or anything else. Can't anyone look out there and see that you need not to think of everything in terms of what works or what they ought to do? Game dev and narrative expert Ariella Bouskila joins us for a discussion of bad colleagues, sick empires, beautiful boys, katabasis ducks, and the magic that can be found all around us if you have the eyes to see but can perhaps especially be found at a 1990s science fiction convention. NB: As much as we would like not to, this one inevitably contains some conversation about Neil Gaiman. Transcript available here [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wyv9xbelK_z0thRyk0Z6Yz4VvOf05mJd/view?usp=sharing], and we'll be wrapping up our season in two weeks with Dark Lord of Derkholm!

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