EPISODE · Jun 12, 2026 · 1H 4M
Deep State vs. Trump: The EPA Climate Fight Headed to the Supreme Court │ Steve Milloy
from The Jenny Beth Show · host Jenny Beth Martin, Steven Milloy
Steve Milloy is an attorney and senior fellow at the Energy and Environmental Legal Institute. A veteran of more than three decades of environmental and energy policy work, including time in the coal industry, he writes widely on climate regulation, the EPA, and the administrative state. Key topics covered: The EPA endangerment finding rollback and what it means for energy policy West Virginia v. EPA and why the agency lacked authority to regulate greenhouse gases The Department of Justice’s contradictory Suncor Trust v. Boulder County brief Data centers, energy demand, foreign money, and eminent domain The collapse of coal and rising electricity prices Wind, solar, and the real costs of the green agenda Refrigerant rules, the American Innovation and Manufacturing Act of 2020, and the Kigali Amendment What an incoming El Niño actually means Timestamps: 00:18 — Welcome and the episode’s focus on energy and the administrative state 00:46 — How the deep state is undermining the EPA at the Justice Department 01:12 — The endangerment finding rescinded in February 01:54 — The Supreme Court line: Massachusetts v. EPA to West Virginia v. EPA 03:48 — Suncor Trust v. Boulder County and federal preemption 05:57 — The contradictory DOJ brief that could backfire 09:45 — Should the brief be pulled, and should the attorneys be held accountable 11:38 — Why no one is overseeing the deep state lawyers 13:00 — The endangerment finding as the centerpiece of Trump’s energy agenda 15:38 — Data centers, Elon Musk, and the energy crunch 20:50 — Foreign money funding green activist groups 22:31 — Eminent domain and a Georgia family’s property fight 25:47 — The water fight over data centers 29:39 — States moving to ban data centers 36:09 — Reviving coal and what killed it 39:23 — Burning coal, exporting gas, and LNG terminals 40:46 — Wind, solar, and where NIMBY actually makes sense 43:10 — How conservatives ceded the environmental issue 46:09 — Clean air, clean water, and China’s record 49:01 — National parks, Agenda 21, and Alaska 52:55 — Refrigerant rules and why your soda is warm 55:48 — The AIM Act, the Kigali Amendment, and the ozone debate 1:00:16 — El Niño and what to actually worry about Links: teapartypatriots.org │ jennybethshow.com
What this episode covers
The EPA endangerment finding rollback is the centerpiece of President Trump’s energy agenda, and Jenny Beth Martin’s guest says the deep state is quietly working to undermine it from inside the Justice Department. In this episode of The Jenny Beth Show, Jenny Beth sits down with Steve Milloy, attorney and senior fellow at the Energy and Environmental Legal Institute, for a deep dive into the legal fight that could decide the future of American energy. Milloy walks through how the Trump EPA rescinded the 2009 endangerment finding, the regulation he calls the mother of all climate rules, and why the Supreme Court’s West Virginia v. EPA decision means the agency never had authority to regulate greenhouse gases. Then he reveals the problem: a Department of Justice brief in Suncor Trust v. Boulder County that contradicts the administration’s own position and could be weaponized by the left in ongoing litigation. Jenny Beth and Steve also break down the data center energy crunch, the collapse of coal and your rising electric bill, foreign money flowing to green activist groups, the refrigerant rules driving up the cost of air conditioning, and what an incoming El Niño actually means. It’s a constitutional, taxpayer-focused look at energy policy and the administrative state, in plain language you can act on. Learn more at teapartypatriots.org and jennybethshow.com.
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