Democracy 2025: Does it Pass the Smell Test?

In this episode, Joe sits down with former Senator Jon Tester—author, co-host of the podcast Grounded, and a working Montana farmer—to take stock of the Rule of Law today. They examine how Congress is failing both the nation and the law, and flag troubling shifts in U.S. alliances. Together they ask: Where are we now? The conversation explores why transparency and accountability must be strengthened to protect the future of democracy. Tester also weighs in on America’s misunderstanding of tariffs and policy, and the empty promises and blatant lies coming from the current administration. Listen to Jon Tester on the Grounded Podcast.