Designing Learning for Behavior Change w/ Julie Dirksen

Julie Dirksen is the author of the books Design For How People Learn and Talk to the Elephant: Design Learning for Behavior Change. She is a learning strategy consultant with a focus on incorporating behavioral science into learning interventions. She’s been an adjunct faculty member at the Minneapolis College of Art and Design and is a Learning Guild Guildmaster. Mentioned on the Show:Talk to the Elephant: Design Learning for Behavior Change (book): https://a.co/d/hYJTByTDesign For How People Learn (Voices that Matter) (book): https://a.co/d/9BoCfdXAugmented and Virtual Reality for Behavior Change (white paper): https://www.learningguild.com/insights/237/augmented-and-virtual-reality-for-behavior-change/Connect with Julie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliedirksenJulie's website: https://usablelearning.com/________________________Connect with O’Brien McMahon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/obrienmcmahon/Learn more about O’Brien: https://obrienmcmahon.com/O’Brien’s new book—How You Become You—is available now: https://a.co/d/22kZ0sVTimestamps:(2:04) - Welcoming Julie(3:58) - Do adults and kids learn differently?(8:00) - Can you explain the title of your book ‘Talk to the Elephant’?(18:34) - How does delayed gratification play into corporate training?(26:53) - How do you feel about the concept of experiential learning?(31:18) - How do you see people using augmented reality and virtual reality in the workplace?(41:29) - Can you talk about what is extrinsic vs. intrinsic motivation?(49:49) - Can you talk about what is the difference between individual and group behavior change?(1:03:20) - Where can people find you if they want to learn more about this?(1:04:16) - What suggestions would you give people to start implementing instructional design?