Dev Life S5 E13 | The Future of Craftsmanship: Dave Thomas on Being A Pragmatic Agent

What does it mean to be a "Pragmatic Programmer" when AI can write the code for you? This week, Brooke & Matt welcome the legendary Dave Thomas, co-author of the "developer's bible" (aka - The Pragmatic Programmer) and a pioneer of the Agile Manifesto, to discuss the state of our craft in 2026. Dave challenges us to rethink our relationship with AI "coworkers," explains his "Orient-Step-Learn" framework for staying sharp, and even reveals which piece of his classic advice he’d delete in this new era of automation. Whether you’re a junior dev looking for "scar tissue" or a veteran engineer navigating AI-generated complexity, this is a must-watch conversation with a true industry provocateur!CONNECT WITH US:https://pragdave.me/https://www.linkedin.com/in/jedibravery/https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewbchristiansen/Follow us onX: @DevLifePodcastX: @AngularShowBluesky: @theangularplusshow.bsky.socialThe Angular Plus Show and The DevLIfe Podcast are a part of ng-conf. ng-conf is a multi-day Angular conference focused on delivering the highest quality training in the Angular JavaScript framework. Developers from across the globe converge  every year to attend talks and workshops by the Angular team and community experts.JoinAttendXBluesky        ReadWatchStock media provided by JUQBOXMUSIC/ Pond5