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Lou and Adele will be on the couches, my guests. I'd not rather be talking to Adele exclusively between you and me. But this week, Lou has, he has news. He did something of note.
He's just returned from a trip to Pacific Northwest where he played some very special shows with Dinosaur Junior to commemorate a 30-year anniversary of the very popular record, Where You Been? It wasn't there. It wasn't on that one. The most popular record of Dinosaur Junior's could.
Anyway, but there were some very, very special guests that the shows weren't there, Lou? Yes. Lou, what? There were some very special guests on the shows.
There were, there were four track men indeed. You know, having seen that album played? I'm going to ask you a series of questions, and you're going to have some time. What do you saying?
I'm going to have some time. Questions? Questions? Okay.
Adele, please, please, please, please feel free to interject at any time. At any time. If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know. All right.
Get ready. I feel like I'm at the starting line. I'm like, ready and waiting for the guns. Like, phew, go, run.
So what's the questions? I don't know. Where are they? Where'd he go?
Fort track man? Hello. I thought he was cropping us for some questions. Yeah, well, I would like to say that, that album is really good.
Where you been? Well, I got to hear it when you guys did the show in Amherst. Oh. Yeah, when we played it live.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was like, I love playing those songs. Yeah.
I think it sounds great. I like how it introduces a dynamic. I think it's almost experimental, Dinosaur Jr. Like, as far as Jay, like, he did really experimental stuff with his voice and with instruments on that.
That's true. It's like a big, it's like a big budget LP that he made, and it's pretty dynamic. There's a lot of those. Yeah, yeah.
That beautiful quiet song, not the same. Yes. That song live, he did a really good job with that. Yeah, he seems like a really good.
And then there's these other ones that are kind of more country-hung flavored, but the way that Murph and I play them is we put that momentum behind it. Didn't Murph actually play on that album? I think he might have. I think he did.
I think he did. Yeah. Let's just say yes. Yes, okay.
I don't want to consult any devices. Well, so this is kind of like a recap of your shows in Portland and Seattle then, would you say? Yeah, I mean, I talked to Fortrach Man about it, and I thought, you know, we don't usually do this. We don't usually go down point by point.
One of the guests was Peter Holster, who's known for his work with the Dendy World House. I never thought you'd be a junkie, because heroin was so pass-ay. That's a great tune. Now Peter was a member of the Sun Adams who opened the shows.
Tell me about it, Lou. Tell me about it. It was cool. Peter?
Okay. Peter from the Dandy Warhols. And Peter wears a really cool hat, this really cool black hat that sort of hangs over his brow. Is he a guitar player?
He is. Is he like an original member of the Dandy Warhols? I couldn't tell you. Yeah.
The way he dressed, he should be. All he know is that boy. What's that album? Was it 13 Tails from Urban Bohemia?
Am I mixing albums or is that correct? Is that the name of it? Something about something Tails from Urban Bohemia? I'm not a Dandy Warhols expert.
Oh, okay. Well, all I know is that album. I love it. I love it.
I love it from start to finish. I thought he was good. He was great. I thought he was a snowy night that first night in Portland, and snow makes Portland freak the fuck out.
Not a good reason. Not a lot of people went, but you know who came. Lou, tell us about the second guest that night. Who was it again?
Well, Portland only has like two snow plows. They don't use salt on the road. It also gets extremely windy there. It was legitimately a crisis.
People couldn't come to the show. Sorry to those folks. Anyway, Stephen Mountless. Stephen Mountless.
He and his daughter and his wife ventured out. They were able to make it to the show. We weren't able to do a sound check. We played this on cracked.
What's that from? You're living all over me. Classic, Darnissar, Jr. and he played it like he'd heard it a million times.
Probably has. I think he has. He told Jay that there was one part of the song before a lead kicks in and is one of the greatest moments in music. Stephen and I had a, we talked for a while, I talked to his daughter who works at KSPC, the college radio.
She's a college freshman at Pomona College, college, college. She's the same age as my oldest. Anyway, talked to his wife. Great conversation about raising kids.
She's an artist. She's an artist. She's kind of a badass artist. She's been at Mass Mocha.
All kinds of places. Amazing. But super down there. We tried to do this favorite, right?
So good. What a band. They really captured the spirit of the time back then. They would really, the band that was in everyone's lips.
I said they weren't quite that popular, were they? All right. Oh no. What's the thing?
Moving on. Oh my god. Oh, okay. Portland Night 2.
What happened? What happened? Did you play with Brian from the show? Yes.
You did. I did. I just adore that band. I do.
You love that band. I do. Complex arrangements and infectious compositions that they have. It must be something that you aspire to.
You've never quite done anything quite like that. It's true. I haven't. I'm a track man's piece.
You know the best thing? I mean Brian, he learned the song Sledge Feast which actually comes right after cracked on the album. You're living all over me. He did a fantastic job.
It's like a really good, really good, really good job. You're like, oh, is that the Bartlett band? Yeah, that's where they're from. They call it Stoner Metal.
Okay. But I just call it good. Good Black Sabbath influenced music. Really?
They're really, really good. I love that. I watched them play like 25 times last year and I loved every fucking show. Brian brought me a quarter-right coat.
He saw my Instagram that said that like, oops, I only brought one coat to Portland. It was really cold. It was cold. It was cold.
It was cold. I was like, oh, I'm not going to be a kid. I'm not going to be a kid. I'm not going to be a kid.
I'm not going to be a kid. I'm not going to be a kid. I'm not going to be a kid. I'm not going to be a kid.
You're probably just kind of like, oh, you're like a kid and now you're talking about organically with art. And I'm going to beICTingMoreover plus graduate. Mathematics. below and it was raining at the same time.
It made it was kind of chaotic. So I again... I was bummed because I have two really good friends from when I lived in LA who both lived out in Portland and neither of them could come. They have no power.
Sarah and Joby. No power. No power. No power.
I know Sarah is texting me like I think my phone's gonna run out of it. It could almost like hear her battery dying in her text and she's like and I just saw it evergreen follow my neighbor's car. I'm like okay. A lot of people saw trees just falling on the other side of the river on the foot of the hill which lies on the west side of Portland.
Portland was kind of bisected by this river. But that river and so it's like part of it could move around part of the city right in the other half. This one I will say you you had played with this guest before I believe in New York City in Brooklyn. The borough of Brooklyn one of the five boroughs of New York City Brooklyn you played at the music hall of Williamsburg with Isaac Brock and Isaac made a hometown one return blessed the stage for you guys with his creativity his unpredictability the amenable Isaac Brock.
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Every time he's played the song with us he played Watch the Corners. Oh wow I didn't know that. So he kind of went deep. What a fun surprise.
I didn't know that. There's been a few people that have really great song live. They find they find it really cool like almost I mean a new a newer guy. I know.
He played the three times he played he played something different each time and it was like what I mean because he has this pedal like this scrambler pedal that just scrambles his notes and he kind of he's really I got to go to his studio the second night we were in Portland and he said you want to come to the studio and much to his surprise I said yes and it was like because it was like 1230 in the morning and I was with my with my 18 year old daughter and we all went and you're not my nephew my daughter and we all gotten to be piled into Isaac's car and we drove to his studio on the west side of Portland downtown. We went into his fantastic labyrinth of a studio slash workspace the guy works on he had a big like woodworking thing he had a fucking bandsaw already called those things. He's like building bunk beds right now. It's amazing.
He's building pine bunk heads like in the middle he has one floor where like his kids can run around and there's like this big space and then below that he's got this incredible studio and it's all just a cool shit everywhere the biggest pedal collection I've ever seen bigger than the one at Wilco Loft. Really? Yes. That was quite a pedal collection.
Wow. Huh. Was it ever? Is it ever?
Uh huh. But yeah Isaac that was fun. I bet Jay would have liked to see his pedal collection huh. Jay would have loved to see those pedals.
First night Seattle on the very special run of shows for Dinosaurs Junior. Oh the first night in Seattle was quite a star stud at night. It began with who? Matt Cameron.
Oh. Drummer of sound garden and now the drummer for Pearl Jam to enormously popular band. What was that like? I hear I hear that Matt shows his own tune.
His own sort of dinosaur junior deep cut to play on drums. That's true. Yeah. He played a song called Yeah We Know Off the Bug record which has always been kind of one of my favorites.
It's kind of a it's a really heavy chordal dirge that Jay would stop start. It's kind of this it's a it's a very emotional song for me because it was on the last record that I was on and I was like oh my god there's like there's a line on it that's like about to crack with no hope of coming back. How do we ever get it together? I'm like.
But Matt wanted to play that song. It's got this great like tribal kind of drum and tune like Tom's like. So I got to like just stand next to Matt Cameron and watch him play drums. It was cool.
And then afterwards had a you know brief conversation about kids and being an aging rocker. Yeah. He lives outside of Seattle. Nice.
And he seemed very nice. And as anyone sort of peripheral to the Pearl Jam thing they all seem like there's a good vibe going on with those guys. That's so cool. Well we we've personally had dinner with Jeff and it.
We did it. That was lovely. Lovely. This one is heavy.
Dave Matthews you. Lou shared the stage with Dave Matthews. You. I never thought I'd see the fucking day.
Well congratulations. Tell us all about it. What was it like to share the stage with the great Dave Matthews? It was cool.
He was really nice. And I liked his version of Cortez the killer. Because it was Dave. It was like he did the things that he does that we know him for like he did a lot of vocalizations like he's like kind of thing that he does.
And he played acoustic guitar. So we actually meant that we did come down in volume as to not overwhelm Dave. We did suggest he thought that he shouldn't wear earplugs. We're doing the sound check.
He's like I don't think I'm gonna wear earplugs. And I said I I suggest you wear earplugs. I said we can we can modulate and come down for your volume but it's still going to be incredibly loud. Yeah.
So we he put in earplugs as we suggested. He was like whoa this was interesting. This feels you know what with that. This is a strange sensation.
So then you don't think he doesn't wear earplugs with Dave Matthews band? He probably wears any ear monitors. Oh okay. But just putting things to block all of every every frequency from your to protect yourself as if you are a working on a construction site.
That's a whole other level of hearing protection. And that's the level that dinosaur we're doing our sound check and we're wearing like all of us. We know all three of us have these big you know the muffs the construction muffs on. So we have those in these people walk out on stage with us like okay.
Oh dear. But Dave put in his earplugs and he did a really fun long version of Cortez night. That's nice. His playing really brought out things in my plan.
I liked it. This one was tasty. I heard about this and I thought that's perfect. Wow.
You must have met Mark Armstrong somewhere during the years. Mod Honeen Sabador were concurrent concurrently touring through the United States and Europe and you often saw their name everywhere. Almost actually everywhere. People were very interested in this band.
Probably a little bit more than your band. It's truly dull. Not Mark Armstrong, the lead singer of Mod Honeen, sang with dinosaur junior. Tell me more.
Well we played two studious songs. Studious is a very seminal. I love them when I say the word seminal. You love to educate me on these seminal bands.
Very influential band especially. I mean they really did influence the grunge thing. Mod Honeen, dinosaur junior at the same time were pretty much the same age. When we first came to Seattle, I found this out.
I confirmed with Mark Armstrong that they were all there at our very first show. They weren't very many people there. But Mark had roped all of his friends including the guy who ran sub-pop records, Bruce Pavitt. They were all going to go to a party.
But instead Mark I'll convince them all to go to the dinosaur show. And this is what I remember is a bunch of guys with long hair gathered around Jay's pedal boards. Because at that point no one was using these vintage pedals that Jay was using but they were as well. And they named their first EP, Superfuzz Big Muff which was like something that Jay used.
That's so cool. So it was like this we made this kind of like transcontinental connection. I never met them because I was afraid to talk to anybody and I never did. I mean I just didn't really talk to a lot of my fellow musicians or I felt I did not talk to them and I had never met Mark Armstrong until the show the other night.
What? Yeah. Nice check. Oh that's a total shock.
I didn't know that. The theatre, the solo, is playing the bass, the bass with dinosaur juniors. Now he wasn't a member of the band when the album that's being celebrated, the most popular album of the band's career. Lou was not a part of that album.
But yes they too show night too. Not in charity. The head and the heart. What?
What? Yeah. Ed and the heart. These young couple I say young they've got two kids.
They've got a three month old and I'm like a three year old. I'm approximating that but they are very popular. They like played Red Rocks and stuff. And they came out and sang on one of our favorite songs to play which is called Bend There All The Time.
It's from and they came out and they sang double harmony vocals with the whole song without fucking rehearsing. Wow. They came out and they added this like depth of harmonies to it and we were able to play it at full force because at first I was like okay we're gonna kill them. We're gonna hurt them if they stand in the heart.
They were one of these two people these people like standing in front of them known for acoustic based music I think. And I was like oh god this is, do they know what they're stepping into and yes they did. And they handled it beautifully and they sang perfectly. It was so cool and I mean a long conversation about raising kids on tour and really nuts.
That's so sweet. Last guess was it blue? Who was it? Jessica Dobson.
Jessica Dobson was not familiar with her work but apparently she's worked with a lot of bands that I love and a lot of things that I like and like a lot of you know a big name really cool indie artist like the shins. She plays guitar and she sings. She got up and she did feel the pain with us. Sang every word of the song matched Jay solo for solo.
I mean she was like and then she soloed in parts of the song that don't have solos which people I think a lot of times guitar players that we do play with are a little intimidated and they won't but she seemed so like just again like head and heart they hadn't had the heart they were like she just seemed comfortable there for it knew what it was and really she just and there's some complicated parts of that song. Some of the parts of that song took me I mean months months to learn. They're a little unpredictable. Jay's chords and stuff are not predictable a lot of the but she had she knew it cold and played a sweet solo on it and sang beautifully to it and looked totally confident and like without but in a very down to earth way.
That was the thing with both of those. That last night though because I was not totally familiar I'm not familiar with either of them to be honest like and I know the names that hadn't heart for sure but I didn't know and I was just really really it was like when we played with that guy from TV on the radio Kip Kip and Malone. I mean I knew TV on the radio a little bit but boy he just blew me away. And now down yeah I was just really impressed so impressed so impressed and it sounds like it was really fun.
Another episode of Fry and Prash. I've been your host sport track man asking local questions getting deep and digging deep and cutting out. I'm in the pool but I don't have to bet. I can take it.
I can take it. Yeah you know. You got your time this new. You got your time this new.
You got your time this new. What is that? You got your time this new. It sounded like you got your time this.
You got your time this time Lou. Oh we talked about you. Yeah lose lose episode. This is a little bit of a yeah.
It's all right. It was. Honey. Is that okay?
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