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Director Kevin Curran on Brian Binnie's UAP encounter, birth of private spaceflight | Reality Check
from Reality Check with Ross Coulthart · host Ross Coulthart
In this episode of "Reality Check," Ross Coulthart sits down with Kevin Curran, the cinematographer and director behind "Beyond Blue Sky: The Untold Story of the First Private Astronauts." It's a documentary about the small Mojave Desert team that built SpaceShipOne and won the $10 million Ansari X Prize in 2004. Curran takes us inside the trials and tribulations of that race, the engineering long shots, the near-fatal test flights and the redemption arc of pilot Brian Binnie after a hard-landing crash that nearly ended the program. The conversation then turns to the encounter that may have changed history, Binnie's account of seeing roughly a dozen unidentified objects in his backyard six days after SpaceShipOne's first powered flight test in December 2003. Curran tells Ross why he found Binnie credible, how the encounter fits inside the larger arc of one of the most consequential pilots in private spaceflight history, and what he hopes audiences take from a story that begins with rocket science and ends somewhere stranger.Go to http://vanman.shop/ross and use code ROSS for 15% off your first order.#BeyondBlueSky #AnsariX #SpaceShipOneCREDITSHost: Ross CoulthartExecutive Producer: Andy GipsonEditorial Producer: Meagan MedickSegment Producer: Christine JenkinsonAssociate Producer: Will TomasiResearch Producer: Rob JonesEditor: Anthony DiasioOn "Reality Check," NewsNation Special Correspondent Ross Coulthart takes a fact-based approach to tackle everything from unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) to mysteries often missing from the headlines. More Reality Check: https://www.newsnationnow.com/podcasts-newsnation/reality-check-with-ross-coulthart/ Email your questions to [email protected] NewsNation is your source for fact-based, unbiased news for all Americans. More from NewsNation: https://www.newsnationnow.com/ Get our app: https://trib.al/TBXgYpp Find us on your screen: https://www.joinnn.com/CHAPTERS:00 Intro3:38 Meet Kevin Curran6:36 The Race for the X Prize, and Brian Binnie12:12 Burt Rutan and the Origins of Private Spaceflight16:00 Strapped to a Rocket with Wings23:48 Trial, Error, and Near Disaster30:00 Brian's Backyard Encounter36:35 Did Private Spaceflight Draw UAP Attention?40:25 Other Pilots, Other Encounters42:30 The Final Sprint, and the Risk-Takers Who Won It46:33 Risking your Friends to Win it All51:09 Mike Melvill's 29 Spins to Space53:18 Brian's Second Chance, and the Flight of His Life57:25 Private Aerospace and is the USA hiding technology?1:01:04 Has This Changed What Kevin Believes?1:02:10 Final Thoughts
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In this episode of "Reality Check," Ross Coulthart sits down with Kevin Curran, the cinematographer and director behind "Beyond Blue Sky: The Untold Story of the First Private Astronauts." It's a documentary about the small Mojave Desert team that built SpaceShipOne and won the $10 million Ansari X Prize in 2004. Curran takes us inside the trials and tribulations of that race, the engineering long shots, the near-fatal test flights and the redemption arc of pilot Brian Binnie after a hard-landing crash that nearly ended the program. The conversation then turns to the encounter that may have changed history, Binnie's account of seeing roughly a dozen unidentified objects in his backyard six days after SpaceShipOne's first powered flight test in December 2003. Curran tells Ross why he found Binnie credible, how the encounter fits inside the larger arc of one of the most consequential pilots in private spaceflight history, and what he hopes audiences take from a story that begins with rocket science and ends somewhere stranger.Go to http://vanman.shop/ross and use code ROSS for 15% off your first order.#BeyondBlueSky #AnsariX #SpaceShipOneCREDITSHost: Ross CoulthartExecutive Producer: Andy GipsonEditorial Producer: Meagan MedickSegment Producer: Christine JenkinsonAssociate Producer: Will TomasiResearch Producer: Rob JonesEditor: Anthony DiasioOn "Reality Check," NewsNation Special Correspondent Ross Coulthart takes a fact-based approach to tackle everything from unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) to mysteries often missing from the headlines. More Reality Check: https://www.newsnationnow.com/podcasts-newsnation/reality-check-with-ross-coulthart/ Email your questions to [email protected] NewsNation is your source for fact-based, unbiased news for all Americans. More from NewsNation: https://www.newsnationnow.com/ Get our app: https://trib.al/TBXgYpp Find us on your screen: https://www.joinnn.com/CHAPTERS:00 Intro3:38 Meet Kevin Curran6:36 The Race for the X Prize, and Brian Binnie12:12 Burt Rutan and the Origins of Private Spaceflight16:00 Strapped to a Rocket with Wings23:48 Trial, Error, and Near Disaster30:00 Brian's Backyard Encounter36:35 Did Private Spaceflight Draw UAP Attention?40:25 Other Pilots, Other Encounters42:30 The Final Sprint, and the Risk-Takers Who Won It46:33 Risking your Friends to Win it All51:09 Mike Melvill's 29 Spins to Space53:18 Brian's Second Chance, and the Flight of His Life57:25 Private Aerospace and is the USA hiding technology?1:01:04 Has This Changed What Kevin Believes?1:02:10 Final Thoughts
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