EPISODE · Jun 6, 2025 · 37 MIN
Disease and Death: Elon Musk's Real DOGE Legacy W/ Fmr. USAID Dep. Admin. Jim Kunder (Replay interview)
from Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes · host Grant Hermes
As Elon Musk exits the White House and has a very public falling out with Donald Trump, the consequences of his time there won't be fully realized for a while. But, there is one place to start where, when history looks back, may be the most talked about thing—the death toll from diseases spread around the world by Musk ending USAID. Grant breaks down what we know about the cost of shutting the agency and revisits an interview with former Deputy Administrator of USAID Jim Kunder, whose interview from Feb. 8 is just as, if not more, relevant today. LINKS:Jim Kunder work Rapid Response Fund International Rescue CommitteeIodine Global Network Support the showFollow along on social media SaySo: @GrantHermes X: @GrantHermesInsta: @Grant__HermesTiktok: Grant_Hermes
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As Elon Musk exits the White House and has a very public falling out with Donald Trump, the consequences of his time there won't be fully realized for a while. But, there is one place to start where, when history looks back, may be the most talked about thing—the death toll from diseases spread around the world by Musk ending USAID. Grant breaks down what we know about the cost of shutting the agency and revisits an interview with former Deputy Administrator of USAID Jim...
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Disease and Death: Elon Musk's Real DOGE Legacy W/ Fmr. USAID Dep. Admin. Jim Kunder (Replay interview)
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