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EPISODE · Dec 3, 2025 · 51 MIN

“Dishonorable and Inhumane”

from Main Justice · host Mary McCord, Andrew Weissmann, Todd Huntley

“What was said, when was it said, and who was observing the operation as it was ongoing?” These questions are top of mind this week for Todd Huntley, Director of Georgetown’s National Security Law Program and a former active-duty Judge Advocate for the Navy. He joins Mary and Andrew to lend his unique expertise to what the Washington Post reported as a “kill them all” order from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. This order reportedly led to a second strike, killing two remaining survivors and, in Huntley’s view, violating the laws of naval warfare and international law, which “give a protected status to shipwrecked personnel.” Mary and Andrew then take a moment to reflect on the tragic shooting of two National Guard members last week and an appellate court ruling affirming a lower court finding that Alina Habba’s appointment as acting US Attorney in New Jersey was unlawful.Further reading: Todd Huntley’s interview in The New Yorker: The Legal Consequences of Pete Hegseth’s “Kill Them All” Order. A former military judge on the Trump Administration’s contradictory—and likely unlawful—justifications for its Caribbean bombing campaign.Here is the original reporting on the 2nd strike by the Washington Post: Hegseth order on first Caribbean boat strike, officials say: Kill them all.  Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads. You'll also get exclusive bonus content from this and other shows. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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What does the law say about the military killing boat strike survivors? Plus: Appeals court affirms Alina Habba’s appointment as acting US attorney was unlawful.

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