Tonight on 360, late night Jimmy Kimmel is going back on the air while we're learning about what went into that decision, what his shows revival means in the President's running battle with late night mockery. Also tonight, fallout from the stunning report that Tom Homan, the administration's deportation czar, was caught on tape, literally holding the bag, a fast food bag with $50,000 in FBI sting money in it. And later, the President rolls out new recommendations on Tylenol, vaccines, and autism, but should pregnant women with fevers just tough it out, as the President suggested. We'll be joined by a vaccine researcher who daughter lived with autism.
Good evening, thanks for joining us. We begin tonight with Jimmy Kimmel's return to the air. Tomorrow night, it's going to happen after six days off. What ABC had said was indefinite suspension over comments he made Monday night in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder.
We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and what everything they can to score political points from it. Well, that was last Monday night by Wednesday, under pressure, as you know, from two large affiliate groups and criticism from FCC Chairman Brendan Carr, ABC pulled a plug on Kimmel. Today, however, this afternoon, Disney announced Kimmel was coming back without much in the way of elaboration. This is their statement.
Last Wednesday, we made the decision to suspend production on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country. It is a decision we made because we felt some of the comments were ill timed and thus insensitive. We've spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy and after those conversations, we reached the decision to return the show on Tuesday. The statement leaves much on set.
What kind of conversations for one? Also, how does Jimmy Kimmel intend to address his critics, if at all? We learned just minutes ago that one of those two big affiliate groups, Sinclair, will pre-emphashow. The other next star is not said what they will do.
Next, as you know, is pursuing a big merger right now that actually needs FCC approval, something likely not lost on Chairman Carr. This was him just hours before. Next star dropped Kimmel and ABC suspended him. We can do this the easy way or the hard way.
These companies can find ways to change conduct, to take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead. Well, it turned out no ex-work was needed. Protests followed from people demonstrating outside Disney properties across the country. So, liberties and writers' groups weighed in more than 400 actors, musicians and film directors signed an open letter organized by the ACLU.
People said there were canceling Disney plus subscriptions, including Howard Stern, who's an estrangement at Controversy and Pressure. When the government begins to interfere, when the government says, I'm not pleased with you, so we're going to orchestrate a way to silence you. It's the wrong direction for our country. Now, it might sound stupid, but the thing I did this morning, I'm canceling my Disney Plus.
I'm trying to say with the pocketbook that I do not support what they're doing with Jim. Whether or not cancel subscriptions factored into Disney, ABC's decision, we don't know. Nor do we know what the president makes of it. He's not waiting yet, either on camera or online.
What we do know is that the president has now made it play in several times over the last few days that he has no qualms about threatening the media over what late-night comics say. And what he is really concerned about and angry about is what they say about him. And ask Brendan Carr to weigh in on other late-night posts that you have asked to potentially be on the air. Hi, host, it's on Network Television.
There is a licensing. I'll give you an example. I read some of these networks where 97% against me, I get 97% against me. And yet I won easily, what all seven speak states, I'm going to win everything.
And then 97% against. They give me holy bad with whiskey. I'm impressed. I mean, if they're getting a license, I would think maybe their license should be taken away.
It'll be up to Brendan Carr. We go first night to see an entertainment course monolith with WIPE, my story in Los Angeles. Elizabeth, you have a new reporting about Kimmall's show Tomorrow in the Sinclair affiliate group. Yes, I understand.
So I just heard from a source that Jimmy Kimmel will indeed address this entire situation, this entire controversy in his monologue tomorrow night. I have another source who tells me that everybody at the show and at Disney and ABC, they know that Jimmy Kimmel is who he is. He is going to say what he wants to say and they are not going to attempt to censor him. Now, our Brian Stelter also reports that Sinclair, one of the station groups which carries Jimmy Kimmel live, is refusing to air the show tomorrow night.
I know that Brian is going to speak more about that, but I have a source who tells me that even before Disney made the ultimate decision and announcement today, Anderson, to say that we are bringing back the show that they were ready to stand behind Jimmy with or without next-star in Sinclair. So they are standing behind him. They are ready to air the show, even if it's not available in the entire country as it normally is. Well, this is my question.
Thanks very much. A lot to discussion on now, but in your time, it's important to call on this, James Lee Stewart. He's also the author of Unscripted, the Epic Battle for Media, Empire, and the Redstone family legacy. Also with us, Cine and Chief Media analyst Brian Stelter, Harvard Law Professor, Becker Tushnet, and Los Angeles Times TV, Meteor reporter Steven Nataclio.
James, let me start off with you. Did it surprise you to hear that he's coming back? It did a little bit that it was so fast, but the pressure was clearly mounting on Disney. The revolt from the creative community in California and elsewhere, no doubt an incipient revolt among Disney employees.
These are issues they carry, they care strongly about. You think of like that for hundreds of creative people in Hollywood writing a letter, signing a letter, that matters to Disney? I think it does matter, but I think even more their own employees matter, their creative community, who in the past have been very vocal about expressing their views on controversial topics. They hadn't stated anything yet, but I'm sure they were gearing up and there was going to be a big problem on Igers hands.
And that seems like that would have made this decision Bob Auger. Absolutely, and Bob, quite frankly, is concerned about legacy. Does he want to be known as the guy who caved in to Donald Trump and took one of his critics off the air? Because Bob really had a great record on this matter.
When he was first coming up in the 1990s, as an entertainment executive at ABC, it was a show called NYPD Blue, which stretched the boundaries of New Canadian language. And 30% of the ABC affiliates were not your program. A lot of people told Bob to cave then. He didn't.
He stood for it. Correct. That's right. That's right.
And so, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Bob thought a little bit about that before making this decision. Brian, the Sinclair affiliate group had previously demanded that Kim will apologize, make a personal donation to the Kirk family and turning point USA. Is that still the case tonight for them? Do you know?
Yeah, I just hung up with the Sinclair spokesperson. The company will not officially say if it's still demanding that apology and so once that donation, the company does say, quote, discussions with ABC are ongoing as we evaluate the show's potential return. Now, Sinclair has 30 ABC affiliate stations across the country. That is a significant chunk, although there are many, many other ABC stations owned by other companies.
And we don't yet know what Next Door is going to do. Of course, Next Door, as was mentioned, is the other big station group that publicly complained about Kim will last week. It is no secret that Sinclair's owners are conservative Trump supporters. The stations have had a right-wing bent.
Some of the news cast have as well. So this is a statement by Sinclair and more broadly, this may be an example of the unsmooling of broadcast TV. You know, the word broad is in the name, but broadcast TV has been shrinking for years and Maggots of orders have long complained about late night shows being too liberal to anti-Trump. Tonight, many Trump voters believe Kim was lying and trying to hurt conservatives.
And that narrative is still very much out there and alive and well. So I think in some ways, this controversy is only getting bigger because so many Trump fans are now going to be furious with ABC. And this is a moment where Disney CEO Bob Iger is standing up taking a position and I think he's probably aware of what the consequences will be. I think one thing we should point out regarding Sinclair, there are affiliate agreements and contractually.
You can only preempt so many hours of programming in certain periods. They could find themselves in breach and lose their affiliation altogether. In fact, I would say if ABC had NFL football, this probably wouldn't even happen. Why?
Because they wouldn't care? Because it's a giant money maker for local stations. No, you would not risk something like this. But clearly, next star is taking their time talking about us too because I'm sure the lawyers are reading the fine print saying if they can really keep the show off the air definitely.
What other levers does Brandon Carr at the FCC or the Trump administration at that matter have to pull here? Because essentially the FCC hadn't actually done anything. They had just, Brandon Carr had talked about it, sent a signal to affiliates that they should do something and these affiliates did. Yeah, so the levers are this threatened license review for not following the public interest.
And I want to make clear that is cartoonishly unconstitutional in this situation. It doesn't mean they're not going to threaten it. And of course, lots of lawyers will send their kids to private school based on those threats. And in addition, the other thing that's on the table is potential mergers.
We used to have rules against consolidated media ownership. They've been relaxed and there are people who want them relaxed more, but that would require federal permission. James, you would use the example, I was asking about, do you really think it's pressure from the creative community that moved Bob Iger? Use the example back of years ago when there was a so-called don't-say-gay bill in Florida.
Bob Iger was out in front of that. Well, that's a good example because there was pressure on Disney didn't want to take a stand on the gay issue in Florida. They're unemployed, revolted. And that was in part fanned by the fact that Iger, who was not the CEO.
He stepped down from being CEO. He retweeted a statement which called for taking a moral stand on important issues like this. So I think that's a precedent that shows the Disney creative community ultimately prevailed. Disney backed down.
They did oppose the... They got into a big battle with Florida. I think another important point is that in Disney's statement today, they did not say the statement was inaccurate or false. They said it was ill time.
Cars' whole argument for this was that it's not in the public interest if there's a false statement. This was on the face of it, not a false statement. And when you talk about the public interest to reference something that Professor just said, the public interest is to allow broadcasters the full freedom of the First Amendment. And that has traditionally been the standard by which public interest is measured.
And it was not in this case. Do you think Kim will apologize for something? People who know him tell me that he's a stubborn guy. So I would be hesitant to predict that.
I could certainly see a clarification. And I think he'll try to do it in a humorous way. Brian, even if ABC did the math and decided it makes financial sense to put Kim will back on the air without fully backing. Will the network still have a branding problem of dozens or more TV stations?
Don't resume airing the show? I mean, I would say short answer, yes. And in a longer answer, it's another example of America fracturing along Red vs Blue, Pro-Trump vs Anti-Trump lines. It is the unspooling of broadcast TV.
I think some coverage and commentary about Trump loses sight of the fact that he is and always has been an unpopular president. You know, Trump is very savvy about peeking, about looking bigger and more popular than he is, but his approval rating usually hovers around 40%. So if you're Disney, you might make a rational business decision that it's better to appeal to the six out of ten Americans versus the four out of ten Americans. But that four out of ten, that 40% is going to feel even more alienated, even more turned off as there's all this decision.
And Sinclair or other station owners that meet those Trump voters where they are might be able to win more audience. So once again, we see a situation where people are not able to agree or share the same content, the same cultural values, situation that only seems to fracture further. Many of those next art stations are in conservative areas, very strong Trump supporting areas, Panama City, Florida, and a number of other places where you could see the community being a little annoyed. We'll see.
Thank you. Appreciate it. Everyone, thanks. Just had the White House explains reporting that its borders are $50,000 in cash in a paper bag.
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Effective immediately, the FDA will be notifying physicians at the use of a set of, well, let's see how we say that. As said, I'm a men of fin, acetaminophen. Is that okay? Which is basically commonly known as Tylenol during pregnancy can be associated with a very increased risk of autism.
So taking Tylenol is not good. The president also saying this about pregnant women who are suffering from fever. But if you can't tough it out, if you can't do it, that's what you're going to have to do. You'll take a Tylenol, but it'll be very sparingly.
I understand it's maybe 10% of the women that are pregnant are, you know, perhaps before she used it. And that would mean you just can't tough it out. Other than a mother will have to, as I say, tough it out a little bit. There's no downside to doing this.
He also made a connection between autism and childhood vaccinations, despite reams of evidence showing there is no such link and suggested that breaking up childhood vaccinations based, not it seems on some new science, but his own feelings. The MMR I think should be taken separately. This is based on what I feel the mumps, measles, and the three should be taken separately. Well, reaction from some of the medical community with Swift, Arthur Kaplan of the Division of Medical Ethics at NYU's Grossman School of Medicine released a statement that says, in part, the announcement on autism was the saddest display of a lack of evidence, rumors, recycling old myths, lousy advice, outright lies, and dangerous advice I've ever witnessed by anyone in authority in the world claiming to know anything about science.
I want to talk about more of San Diego Medical Correspondent, Dr. Santu Gupta and Dr. Peter Hotez, Co-Director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children's Hospital. He's co-author of the New Book Science Under Siege.
Santu is with the President and Secretary Kennedy said about autism backed up by scientific data? No, Anderson. First of all, there was no new data that was presented here. So, I mean, this is a potential relationship, I will call it between time and all or a seat in autism.
It's something that we've been reporting on for a long time. And there have been various studies over the years which maybe showed associations between time and all use and autism, but not direct cause and effect, which was very much what was suggested today. Dr. Hotez, I want to read the rest of the statement from the medical ethicist, Art Kaplan.
He said of today's White House announcement, what was said was not only unsupported and wrong, but flat out malpractice and managing pregnancy and protecting fetal life. I know this is personal for you. You've spoken about your daughter who lives with autism. What do you believe will be the real world impact of what was said today by President Trump and Secretary Kennedy?
Well, the real world impact is that parents are now where people are going to think that Tylenol causes autism, and as Dr. Gupta points out, it's not supported by the science. So, the right answer would be if they were going to convene a press conference they're saying, look, we are concerned about autism. We know it affects a lot of families.
We want to do a deeper dive into the potential causes of autism. So, we're going to convene the best neuroscientists, the best environmental health experts together to look at potential associations to see if there's any interventions. That'd be a very reasonable thing to do. Because the truth is, there are some chemical exposures that are much clearly, much better associated with the autism phenotype.
That's not what I want to play another clip from what President Trump said today. This is what he suggested several times that pregnant women do instead of taking Tylenol for a fever. But if you can't tough it out, if you can't do it, that's what you're going to have to do. You'll take eight Tylenol, but it'll be very sparingly.
I understand it's maybe 10% of the women that are pregnant would perhaps be forced to use it. And that would mean you just can't tough it out. Other than a mother will have to, as I say, tough it out a little bit, there's no downside to doing this. Is there a downside to toughing it out?
If you're pregnant, do you have a fever? Yeah, there is. It's so bizarre. I watched that when it happened and just sort of watched it again.
The way that people are getting medical advice and probably getting very confused, there is a problem with having fevers when you're pregnant, something that I think has been talked about a lot, but potential problems with birth defects, with early labor, with miscarriage, with neurodevelopmental problems, because of the fever. My point being that treating the fever was probably very beneficial for those folks. So, yeah, it's probably not a good idea to minimize, especially during the first trimester. And women don't really have many alternatives when it comes to treating fever during pregnancy.
So, Dr. Houtes, when people ask why, according to the CDC, there are so many more autism diagnoses in recent years, what do you say? Well, I think a big part of this is because we've dramatically changed our diagnostic criteria for what is autism. First of all, we don't call it autism anymore.
We call it the autism spectrum disorders because it is just that. It's a huge spectrum of different neurodevelopmental conditions and is a consequence. That's a big reason why the numbers have gone up. So, I think a huge component is shifting diagnostic criteria, but it doesn't mean that there's no environmental exposure component.
And we've identified the scientific communities identified about half a dozen chemical exposures. And some to the administration has also done the FDA recommend something called phyllinic acid as a treatment for autism. Would it, does that make sense to me? So, yeah, so the idea there, so talking about B vitamins, women may have heard of folate as part of their prenatal vitamins, something that people have talked about for a long time.
There's this idea that folate may not be getting absorbed as well into the babies who subsequently are diagnosed with autism. So, giving a type of B vitamin that is what's called reduced, meaning it can cross, in this case, crossover into the blood-brain barrier more easily, is something that people have been looking at now for some time. And for children who do have this difficulty with folate, perhaps getting this is something that could be helpful, but it needs to be studied. Dr.
Peter Hootes, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, thank you. Thank you. Up next, President Trump's Justice Department shutting down an investigation to his boarders are Tom Homan, who allegedly accepted a bag of cash from undercover FBI agents during a sting operation last year.
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Like any second now, okay, Twizzlers, time to keep the fun going. It's not often you see a headline like this, and days later, the subject of a high-profile public servant appears to be facing no consequences. Take a look from the New York Times of the weekend Trump Justice Department closed investigations to Tom Homan for accepting bag of cash. It continues Mr.
Homan came under scrutiny after he was sent to be recorded last year, taking $50,000 in cash from undercover FBI agents. Mr. Homan is, of course, the president's high-profile borders are, and according to the Times, citing people familiar with the case, this happened in September of last year and was recorded on audio tape. Quoting the story now, the cash payment, which was made inside a bag from the food chain, Kava, grew out of a long-running counterintelligence investigation that had not been targeting Mr.
Homan, according to people who spoke on condition of anonymity, to describe the case. The Times report goes on to say that on the tape of that meeting, Mr. Homan seemed to agree to help secure contracts from the next administration if the president won. Homan denies the allegations that the Justice Department of Statement says the department's resources must remain focused on real threats to the American people, not baseless investigations as a result the investigation has been closed.
Today, the White House also weighed in. She's suggesting that the Times report is not a phenomenal job in helping the president shut down the border. It's never happened before in American history. When you look at Richard Nixon's enemies list, which is maybe the closest parallel, he didn't make it public.
It came out much later in investigations because he knew how wrong it was. Nixon knew that it was wrong to target enemies and to use the power of the government to attack people simply because they're your enemies. This is that kind of misconduct in public from the president. As a former prosecutor who has a lot of respect for how the Justice Department works, the idea that a president is directing the indictment and firing people.
He fired the U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia because he wouldn't go after Tish James. This is a real perversion of how the Justice Department is supposed to work. And we'll see if he gets what he wants and these people are actually charged.
Brad, do you see this as a perversion of how the Justice Department is supposed to work? We're not giving the rest of the context here later on in the next interview after this. President Trump said maybe they're not guilty of anything. If they're not guilty of anything, we need to be able to say that and move on.
Let me play what he said on Saturday. We have to act fast. One way or the other. One way or the other.
They're guilty. They're not guilty. We have to act fast. If they're not guilty, that's fine.
If they are guilty or if they should be charged, they should be charged. And we have to do it now. So is that what he said to the Attorney General? Well, that's what she presumably she watches the news and heard his sound by there.
She at the end doesn't bring charges. She would have to present evidence to a grand jury. The grand jury of citizens would have to bring charges against someone. So that's how the system works.
It's how it has worked. And that's how this would follow through if the Justice Department never decided there was anything of merit against one of those individuals. So, Karri, if this is all well and good, why do you think it was taken down in the post? First of all, this is not all well and good.
And what we're saying is, I mean, to my good friend, Brad Point, what he's saying is that these individuals are guilty until proven innocent. That's just not the way the American Justice system works. I think Jeffrey Tubin knows this extremely well from being on the opposite side of where I sit, being a prosecutor. The fact is Donald Trump has ruined the foundations of our criminal justice system in this country.
And I actually blame Merrick Garland. This is a stretch for most people tonight. But Merrick Garland should have done his job and should have followed through when the many charges that Donald Trump faced and we would not be in this situation today. The fact is, Donald Trump right now is perverting the justice system using it to go out there as political opponents.
And we've never seen anything like this before. We've never seen someone who has not qualified as Pam Bondi actually go after their political opponents. And ethics, when the Trump administration came in office the second time, were completely thrown out the window. And we see this by Tom Holman, who literally is taking bags of cash, otherwise like Kava, he's taking bags of cash to have someone get government contracts.
This is the very, very fundamental element of the Trump administration, which is that ethics have no place in government. And I think people, their American public are turning their stomach against that. Brad, I want you to be able to respond. Well, Baccaria, I wish I was as eloquent as my friend, Baccaria, but to say that there's never been a president that weaponized the Department of Justice's prosecutions against their political opponent means that Baccaria has forgotten what happened in the last couple of years.
You had Merrick Garland and the Biden administration sending their career prosecutors on a novel prosecution, something that had never been seen before in New York, a cooked up charge. That's exactly what happened. The Biden administration willfully helped prosecute their political opponent. And that was not so long ago.
Speaking of unprecedented, we had a president try to overturn the results of an election. That was unprecedented, and that led to criminal charges. The same president had classified information in his house in Florida that he had been asked repeatedly to return. That was the behavior that was unprecedented, not the prosecution.
Let me just ask about Tom Holman. Just from a legal standpoint, is it actually illegal if you are not in a position to give somebody a sweetheart dealer or contract to take money? The answer is no. It is not illegal to do it if you have no ability to deliver what's going to be.
That's where it gets a little subtle. That's why it seems like you should have more of an investigation. If you're about to be named to a position that you know and he knows, the bribe-giver knows you are going to get, then it might be illegal. It certainly seems to call for more investigation, and certainly the circumstances passing a bag of cash add to the suspiciousness.
If that's actually what happened. In general, if somebody offers you a bag of cash, would you take it? Generally good or not? As a journalist?
No, I try to avoid that. If it were a different form of a cop bag, maybe. That's all the time we have, thank you, Bercari, Bretat as well. Tell me I've never before seen video from inside Rob Ellen Mentor School shows how a teacher who was falsely blamed for leaving a door open was actually trying to save her students' lives.
I want the whole world to see that I did not run straight to my room to hide. It's been more than three years since a teenage shooter entered Rob Ellen Mentor School in Uvaldy, Texas and massacred 19 children and two teachers. For that grieving community, there's still not full accountability for the tragedy and the law enforcement failures that prolonged it. One teacher who survived was wronging the accused of propping open the door that gave the shooter access to the school.
Surveillance video for actions that day has been caught up in a years-long effort by officials to keep records related to the shooting and the law enforcement failure to confront the gunman out of public view. While St. Inshima Prokipaz and his team obtained the full video that authorities are refusing to make public through his sources. Here's his story.
Life is just never the same after you're blamed for a national tragedy. It's like frozen in time because three years, I mean no justice, three years. It was in the days after a gunman stormed through a door that was supposed to be locked and murdered 19 children and two teachers at Rob Ellen Mentor in Uvaldy, Texas, when a waking nightmare became a living hell for Amy Marin Franco. My name is Steve McCraw, the record of Texas Public Safety.
The exterior door where we knew the shooter entered was propped open by a teacher. It was just lie after lie after lie after lie. All I was saying was I closed the door, I closed the door. I kicked the rock and I closed the door.
They thought they were going to get away with it. What's been the hardest the last few years? Even though I know the truth, feeling the separation because of the blame, people are still believing that. You think so?
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I see it every day, every day. You can feel the division.
You know, you can feel the people that are left the door open. How do you convince people? I am looking for a specific video. They've shown bits and pieces, but they've not shown the entire video.
The head of the Texas DPS, he eventually apologized for the mistake, but to this day, the department, they're blocking the release of the video Amy is so desperate for people to see. Have you seen this angle? No. It shows Amy running outside with her cell phone after she wins the gunman crash a truck behind the school.
I'm calling 911. I'm running to the scene. You gotta come in at one. Yes, there was nothing right here behind Rob's school.
She is among the first to alert police a shooter is headed toward the building. Oh my God, they're running. I don't know why. She rushes back inside, kicks away the rock that held the door open and pulls a shut.
But from inside that building, there was no way to know if it is locked. CNN recently uncovered maintenance records that showed there were problems with the lock on that door a month before the shooting. You think the door is closed too? No.
That door is locked. Because it's always supposed to be locked. Amy immediately begins warning others and yells for kids to get into their classroom. Get out of the way!
Get out of the way! Okay, get out of the way! After three minutes, she walks into her own room, turns off the lights and shuts her classroom door. Just a few seconds later, the gunman easily opens the same outside door and makes his way into the fourth grade classroom.
Police swung open the door three minutes after the gunman. By then, it was too late. The shooter would remain inside the room for 77 minutes. The way he just walks in, like...
When you see this and you see yourself given the warnings, is there some reassurance or how do you feel? I want the whole world to see that I did not run straight to my room to hide. I was warning everybody that there was a shooter on campus. I did not stand around like all those 376 officers did.
I was warning everybody to get in their rooms. Certainly the teacher that went back for herself and prompted open again, so that was an access point that the subject used you. How do you feel when you see him? Total failure.
I don't care that man's face. If you want to believe that, then go ahead and believe it, but I have the proof right here. Your fight now, because this is about getting this video released. What can you do?
I will continue to speak up. I will continue to fight. When the files were released, I knew what I was going to look for. And I didn't see it there.
So I started asking, where's the video? Evidence is still being withheld. I call the regular meeting of the U Valley Consulate Independent School District Board of Trustees to order. My name is Amy Frankam.
I'm a survivor of the Rob Elementary Match shooting. You say you stand for transparency, but you have withheld the very footage that will clear my name. Amy hoped the footage would finally be released after the district lost the court fight to keep it secret. The district does not have any hallway video to release because we are not in possession of any of it.
We know what it means to the families. We know what it means to you, Amy. I'm sorry, Amy. You were a totally different person before I was.
I was a different person, but she died that day. I'm a new version now, and I'm learning who I am. I know I'm a fighter now. I have to stand up to all these people that did me wrong.
I mean, this is incredible. This is incredible. That woman was pilloried. She was, and in some way she still is, by people in that community, and that's why she wants this video to come out.
Can you imagine what she has dealt with for three years in that community with the police saying there was a rock in the door and she left the door? That's incredible. She was, like, the police ran in three minutes after the gun man, and then they sat around for... 77.
I mean, she was running around yelling. She was running around. This is the part that's never been seen before. Her running through that hallway telling people to get inside.
This is the part that she wants out there because she wants the community to see that she did everything. She's not working. She can't go back to work. She has no money.
She lives a lot. Amy Martin is her name. She's an incredible woman. She tried so hard to warn people what was happening.
And what is their argument for not releasing this video? The Texas Department of Public Safety took custody of this video. It's not their video. It belongs to the school.
The school says we want it back because we do want to release it. And they say, well, no, we're not giving it back. They told us tonight that the reason is because there's a criminal prosecution. Remember, there's the police chief, the former police chief of the school district and another officer that are facing charges.
But what does this specific piece of this video have to do with that prosecution? It's unclear. That's why the community is saying we want this release to school board, which is now on her side. There are new school board members that are now on the side of this community and they are saying we want this information out there.
All of this sort of got reignited and just quickly is because we, along with other media organizations, sued to get information released. And when the school district lost that battle and finally had to release information, we found that they still weren't releasing everything. The lawyers still weren't releasing everything. It's incredible how you've stayed on the story.
I'm so appreciative of it. Amy Martin, I hope somebody apologizes to her. Just an update on our breaking news from the top of the broadcast. Stephen Colbert just spoke about Jimmy Kimmel's reinstatement.
We'll bring back to you. Also, tragedy in Oklahoma. Tiger Handler, Fadley Mall, that his family runs zoo and the constant Disney of taking Jimmy Kimmel off the air. I'll bring back.
An Oklahoma tiger trainer who reportedly had one spot some tigers from Joe Exotic of Tiger King fame was mauled to death over the weekend by one of his cats. In a statement, Growler Pines, Tiger Preserve said the Ryan easily was attacked and killed during a performance with a tiger at their facility. They said the tragedy is a painful reminder of both the beauty and unpredictability of the natural world. Ryan understood those risks, not out of recklessness, but out of love.
Joe Exotic has offered his condolences. As we reported at the top of the program, Jimmy Kimmel showed me back on the Eric Snivelum's go to the late show with Stephen Colbert released this clip from their broadcast tonight. News. Well, just a few hours before we take this broadcast, we got word that our long, national, late nightmare is over.
Because Disney announced that Jimmy Kimmel Live will return to air. The decision to suspend Jimmy Kimmel came across in industry for data analyst Harry Antone is here with more. How popular was the idea of canceling Disney plus since Kimmel went on fire? Yeah, I mean, that's what became such a headache for Disney, right?
Look at the Google searches for Boycon Disney, canceling Disney plus, up like a rock on both of those. We're talking the highest level ever for both of those. And of course, Google searches go back since 2004. We're talking about rises of upwards of 1,500% and over 10,000%.
When it came to Boycon Disney. What about Disney stock? Yeah, okay. So we're talking about the bottom line, right?
And take a look at the Disney stock, what has happened since, of course, they decided to put Kimmel aside for a few days. We saw that the Disney stock dropped. And what's so important to note here is that in fact, the S&P 500 went up during the same period of time. So clearly there was some market force that was acting against Disney, which obviously was the potential of not just the consumer anger, but also just the general, that I think was just surrounding this entire situation.
Now, let me just point out one of the last thing, which is the ratings for Jimmy Kimmel are obviously down over the past few years as obviously folks have been leaving the broadcast television aside. I think the real question is, can all this controversy actually build up? And get Kimmel to get saying north of say 2.4 million, which was his average audience back in 2015? I would be surprised by three or four million.
Hey, cancellation or the threat of cancellation can be pretty good for business. I'm sure a lot of people tune in. Yeah. He's on tomorrow.
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