In the dead of night as people sleep that is when the spirits creep as the bell tells three dark things take power we like to call it the supernatural hour we are started welcome to the supernatural hour I'm your host Braden this is doc chat here I'm rogue and we are super excited to be podcasting to get us I don't know why we I mean we put out a new podcast every two weeks but it feels like it's been forever since we've podcasted last night I understand why it hasn't been any different than every other two week time so much I missed you I'm glad you're all here oh even though we're missing one today and we have to excuse Klaus he's just got some stuff going on that he needs to take care of but he will be back love you putty and the studio is getting a little bit larger so I kind of think it feels a little different in here this time we didn't be expanded I like it we went out and got more sound blankets I like it and we've increased the attic of despair size by what 30% maybe yeah I'd say 30% but third do you notice something's missing we took down our tapestries we have a supernatural hour tapestry and we have our advanced for normal tapestry but we took them down because I'm getting there to use them in our booth that we had at the Cedar Hills family fun festival F now it's probably not what they call it we should triple it I'm gonna be the triple F I'm gonna be the triple F so we had a F cubed maybe you want to pull in the nerds you go F cubed just you know what your audience right so we had a float in the parade and I wouldn't call it a float we had an entry in the parade look look conjures little colored poofs that you glued it flowers and stuff and it wasn't that no we had a truck and we had our name we've got our name and our logo on magnets great you look great big car baguettes we had a reapers in the back so what are our reapers they're reapers there's three floaty skeletal reapers if you want to say it you're gonna have to head on over to Facebook that's right because you went Facebook live for that you didn't you yes and I need to we did a Facebook live and then I wonder I wonder if that short enough to put on TikTok I don't I don't know I'll have to see if I can put that up on TikTok but it was pretty fun and the interesting thing that we didn't put together we had a booth later in the park after the parade but we had a lot of people come to our booth because they saw us in the parade yeah nothing screams fun like reapers in the back of the truck right exactly and we threw out candy with a headstone on the front of the truck yeah we threw up we threw out candy for about the first fourth of the parade but there was a hell of a lot of candy for that fourth we had a lot of candy we had some youngsters that were very excited to throw out candy and they they very enthusiastically threw out the candy in the first quarter of the parade double fistfuls there's like nobody even lined up and they just the first quarter of the parade there weren't very many people and that's where all the candy got done so if you were at the Cedar Hills parade and you were the first quarter of the parade you made candy bank that's right probably a bit like better than a Halloween haul I think like three times a ton of candy we don't go skimpy on our candy folks if we're in the parade if you're in the first quarter you're gonna get a lot of candy but it was good times I my kids were there they were the ones throwing out fistfuls of candy mine too and they said it they thought that was a lot of fun I don't think they've ever been in a parade before and I thought you know what the last three quarters of the parade didn't get candy but the kids throwing the candy had a ton of fun and the last recorders of the parade didn't know that they didn't know they just held up like tombstones and waved that's what the kids ended up doing for the other three force of the parade and hey people wait back the kids loved it and then they have Ghostbusters playing that whole time we played thriller for about the first half because I was driving and trying not to run over children so I couldn't troubleshoot the sand in the back so it was like thriller on a loop for the first half and then somebody changed the song and it went to Ghostbusters for the second half pretty cool the kids asked if we were gonna do this again probably not sure when I wear but I think we'll definitely do it again it was a pro next year here at least next year here if not somewhere else all right that is a thing about us back so we also had our wisps member Denise was able to come and Denise and some of the older kids passed out some of the flyers along the route so all in all it was a it was a good time sure up to our subscriber numbers on YouTube yeah bump it up to we're 94 or six more folks if we can get six more we are golden we can have a calling we can get a real YouTube channel me yep six more people I'm sure y'all got like don't you have six kids about a stage where you can't just read your kids man it'll be fine good YouTube kids subscribe to get smart normal why not yes exactly it's a cute little ghost looks friendly it's got headphones on yes okay for the business the barbery coast investigation is coming up on June 19th it'll go it's a witchy hour investigation goes from 1 30 a.m. until 4 so if you like me and you need to have this spelled out for you because like my brain runs on unicorns most of the time it's like late late late late Friday night early early Saturday morning one o'clock in the morning 1 30 and at the time of the podcast that we're recording this there are only 10 tickets left so you want to jump on that go out I hope you'll be there if you want to come it's gonna be an exciting time we're gonna have some good food and we're gonna have a good investigation it's it's an active venue and it's it's gonna be a lot of fun we're also working on an investigation for July for Wheeler Farm we don't have all the details on that but that's our plans we'll be doing something in July okay and we're having a patron insider question and answer zoom meeting on June 18th at 7 p.m. we'll have a chance to talk with our patrons about the different things we want to do so if you want to be part of that zoom meeting become a patron that would be great so you just go out to patron.com supernatural hour and become a patron if you want to be part of that yeah it's gonna be and what day are we doing that that's gonna be June 18th at 7 p.m. that's Friday Rome's over here putting in that we're gonna do that that's the same day that is that not the day that we're gonna worry yeah but that's that's one in the morning so there will be a big big time difference you'll go for like from seven to eight and then okay so what do you got for residential okay had to put the calendar down all right we had a couple of fun residential we had a residential in Utah County and at this residential we found a child carrier underneath the crawl space and with thermal imaging we were able to see a baby a figure of a baby in this carrier that's been in a crawl space it's phenomenal check it out on tiktok we've got the pictures out there and they didn't know they had a baby carrier in their crawl space they didn't know where the carrier came from they had seen it there but they didn't know where it come from yeah they didn't have children they lived with their father who was elderly and I mean not elderly elderly but not have a car seat around they didn't have much younger siblings they weren't aware of and then about this crawl space they had to go get a hammer to take the nails out because they had the door nailed shut so it's not like someone could just go hey we need to dump this car seat let's go stick it in here and it was all I mean it was dirt there was mud and slush like it's just it's not a place to come out it was gross it was gross there a bunch of other stuff in there or just kind of the car seat just kind of the car seat their heater their furnace was down there so that's why anybody would go down there so you could see you go right to the furnace yeah just a typical crawl space I mean there might have been a bucket with some electrical wires in it so I'm imagining they haven't changed their furnace filters very often they've done it the damn nails nailed shut yeah jeez we do this every couple of months right right and we had a couple of new people join our team that were on that investigation and they have some equipment that we were able to use and without equipment is where we were able to see the heat the baby in that baby carrier and it's amazing right and that car seat shows up as just bright bright red and if you're familiar with the thermal you know the red obviously is hot the blue is cold there is no reason that car seat should have been any warmer than the rest of the surroundings there was no ducting or events or anything that were was blowing on it but it was just you can really like the figure of the baby's foot like it's pretty obvious there's something functioning in that yeah and then you can see the head you can see hair you can see eyes nose mouth well eyes and mouth nose was a little hard to see but yeah I don't know if when being online you can see it that detail because we're looking at the thermal camera with you taking a video of me holding the thermal camera right it was much more clear and right when we were there now the interesting thing I do want to point out about this is the baby that we saw it wasn't the spirit of the baby right it was a different spirit in the house it was trying to tell us the baby story and so it manifested as a baby and we also have a picture out of you can see the spirit coming into the carrier right so on tiktok if you go we've got two pictures up and I still have yet need to put up no I still need to put up the thermal imaging I did kind of a part one part two okay so sort of a thing so part one and two are up in fact I will put up part three today so what happened to the baby carrier so what ended up happening is a baby died in that house accidental accidental death sitting in the car seat at one point before the people that called us lived there some other people lived there and I don't know who but if they ran a daycare and it was a baby that just died I don't know if it was said so I don't know if it was you know if you leave the field of babies listening to car seat sometimes they can suffocate but it was it was accidental as what we were told right so the owners took the car seat so after he had already sealed up the basement he went out and took it off again went out the car seat and they they got rid of it while we were standing outside yeah they were carrying it waving to us okay okay yeah so that was a that was an interesting and then she she was quite sensitive and they ended up having a portal under her bed and through the course of the investigation it was determined that we shouldn't close the portal because it was necessary for it was a positive portal but that it was not to be closed because they needed it for transportation that was a hump helps to describe it so we just told her to set the intention and let them know that you can come through the portal but you got to go out under the sides of the bed you can't come up through the bed and go through her all the time it kind of gave me the heebies and getting answers to that we did that with the dowsing rods with Raven and we have a picture of that now did that go out on TikTok of your spirit guide working with you the doesn't so I don't remember what it's called but it's the tool that again unicorn ring that uses the Kinex technology and it shows a little stick figures then there's actually it shows the stick figure of Charles moving my dowsing rods it's the craziest thing such a great picture it's awesome it really is so I'll try to see if that's up I don't remember what I've put up and what I have so well I've been showing those pictures off but I'm not sure where I look at them because I have to go to one for Instagram one for Facebook and I don't know what you're putting on TikTok yeah so we'll make sure that's up so outside of that event or event that residential we went to one in Salt Lake County so who and that one we were able to have some of that same equipment so with that equipment we kind of mushed together for me so that one is the one where we thought we saw a spirit peeking out at us through a hole in the bathroom because there was some movement and it was they were seeing it with the infrared camera right and I wasn't in there I just heard kind of this not screaming but squealing like oh my gosh look at that I said oh someone going to see what's going on in there but after you know looking and rogue you got up there with a flashlight and determined it was a piece of paper right there was a piece of paper and we also did some thermal imaging of that and it was a water line so I think it was giving a false reading right so but we did find a type 3 that was guarding just a little golf ball size portal and somebody who may have salted this type 3 into a corner with a window that didn't open yeah so sometimes we need to make sure that the window opens before we start salting so yeah that was awesome I was like oh you're pretty serious what I just do so but we were able to get that type 3 to go into the portal and then we just close the portal yeah and so we had a new member with us on that residential and he could feel the porthole he could feel it that was pretty amazing so yeah that was awesome yeah we've got some new members with us that joined us so let's shout out to our new members thank you we love you yes we do yes we do so we recently had a question posted to us about our names and understandably it can be a little confusing so I'm going to explain it very briefly Castle and I started Wisps in 2012 and he and I if you didn't know we are siblings and he and I have always been interested in the paranormal and we went on a ghost investigation together and long story short we started Wisps and Wisps is short for Wasatch investigative Society of Paranormal Studies it's a long name which is why we call it Wisps but we thought Wisps was cool it's a cool it's a cool little an acronym of a big long name so it's Wisps and Wisps was invented for us to go ghost hunting we wanted to be able to go out and go set and have a fun time with it and we started doing residential so you know meaning going into people's homes people who thought they had something going on didn't know how to take care of it so called us and because oftentimes if there's something in the home that needs to be gotten rid of sometimes that cleansing process involves a religious blessing or a religious ritual of some sort and we never felt good about charging money for doing religious services we also didn't feel good about charging money for people to feel safe in their own homes because this is kind of a different thing than you know buying you know again to protect yourself or an alarm system you know the supernatural the paranormal that's that's different and we never felt good about that so so we've never charged in Wisps we've never charged for Wisps Wisps is our residential only group now the problem is we wanted to have a website and we wanted to have cool banners and we wanted to have all these things that cost money and a podcast but you need to be able to buy stuff to do this and when you don't charge money that has to come out of your own pocket and that gets expensive and so we thought how can we you know raise some money and get some money that's not a pocket to be able to pay for some of these things and so we decided to start another group which we named advanced paranormal services and we have to keep these separate because of tax purposes and you have the nonprofit Wisps and the for-profit advanced paranormal services and the money that we make from advanced paranormal services when we charge money for the tickets goes to help pay for the venue it goes to help pay for banners it pays for I mean we just talked about being in the parade all the equipment and being in the you know putting up a booth in the park it costs money to set up the booth in the park so all that money and any patreon money we get goes back into making this a better product for you so that when you come on public authentication with us you get the best quality product that we can provide with the money that we get so that's why there are two different names because of you know taxes as far as calling it the supernatural hour and that is the name of the podcast and our YouTube channel is advanced paranormal but we have the supernatural hour podcast but we will probably have other podcasts and other media that will be out there under the advanced paranormal channel that aren't necessarily supernatural hour podcast correct related so originally we were Wisps and then we had the Wisps show but because we wanted to have a nonprofit organization and a for-profit organization that's why we've got the two different names so that they can be differentiated makes it easier come tax time Uncle Sam makes things messy so that's why we have three names and now you're not confused anymore and along that you did mention the patrons and I just want to shout out the patrons thank you very much it really really helps that's one of the areas along with the funds that come in from our public investigations that pays for the equipment for the hosting for the hosting of the advanced paranormal.com and Wisps.org and it really makes a big difference but we're grateful for all of your support in both the public investigations and your patrons so main topic for today is really broad I'm just gonna throw that out there it's really broad if we just really got in depth on everything this would not be this would be like the supernatural 24-hour show so what we're gonna do is we're just gonna give you kind of a taste we're gonna dip our toe into this topic and it's actually quite an interesting topic so we're gonna revisit some of these things separately later and do a whole podcast on it but I'm super excited about this so basically it's divination and under divination there are just a ton of things we're gonna talk about two of them specifically not Ouija boards not Ouija boards so basically divination in a nutshell is an art or practice where you are trying to foresee or for till future events maybe discover some hidden knowledge and usually you're gonna do this by way of interpreting omens or using some sort of supernatural aid so let me just real look speaking is hard throw out some of the ways and I'm not saying this is all inclusive someone that's listening it's gonna be I forgot I forgot that yes I'll probably for you or not have some things but just to give you a rough idea tarot cards Celtic Ocom I have no idea if I'm pronouncing that right they look kind like sticks with low markings on Norse runes reading tea leaves pendulum divination another one where I'm not gonna pronounce it right osteomancy which is reading bones Lithomancy which is divination with stones full moon water scrying numerology automatic writing and even just intuition they're kind of lumping in and palmistry and so tonight we're just gonna kind of touch bases not too briefly but we're gonna talk a little bit about tarot cards and palmistry and I'm going to have Rogue talk a little bit about tarot cards first where you were talking about the different types of divination a couple of the other ones on here were pyromancy, eromancy, hydromancy, geo-mancy using the elements right earth, fire, wind, water and using that to try to and I thought that was interesting because that marked in with your symbolism right the four when I was reading into that the earth or you know the four elements that are really focused on for sure in Renaissance magic since we're talking about palmistry and tarot and all of that they also these are the ones that were considered the seven four-bit in arts.
I would assume by whom I would assume by the church but you know who else during the Renaissance era but the church right but it's palmistry necromancy, geo-mancy, arrow-mancy, pyromancy, hydromancy, spatula-mancy scapula-mancy not using spatulas it's divining using scapulis using shoulder blades. Oh I've actually heard of that. I'm just gonna know how to fancy name. Yeah spatula-mancy so you go down your kitchen and not do that.
Okay, all right so tarot tarot has been a part of my world for a long time however I find tarot to kind of be like your magic 8-ball so for me tarot is not an important part of my everyday life however it's always intrigued me so I do have tarot cards I have done tarot readings in the past I find that being an empath tarot was kind of intriguing for me because it was how the pictures make me feel how the illustrator has illustrated photos in comparison as to how I felt so for me reading tarot was a pretty personal thing so for me I don't like reading somebody else's tarot because I don't want to be the person that has anything to say to you I don't want to tell you good news I don't want to tell you bad news nothing. Last time I did a reading for someone was about 15 years ago and I just won't do it again however well before you get into that one thing I thought was interesting is if you read a little bit into the history of the tarot cards it started out as just kind of a game like bridge and it later turned into what it is now what we know what I was now the fortune teller type of the look I took the class Wow that was I didn't even open up my book to even realize that I took the class so I kind of thought it'd be fun so when I was watching tarot when I was doing some research with podcast today I was watching like the new tarot and I mean everybody's still how you got your deck get a deck somebody hands you a deck I used to know somebody that read a deck of cards so I think your deck could be personal or non-personal because I think that's like a regular that's a regular deck to play cards yeah so I really I think your deck is a pretty personal thing to you however it's gonna feel and aren't there numbers of different decks and sometimes people even make their own decks yeah absolutely I mean that's kind of what so I was gonna take a couple pictures I try to illustrate for YouTube a little bit but I mean I have one here that's just dogs so it's just people illustrating and coming up with their own terminologies yeah I think the one as I was doing research the one that's the most common is called the tarot of Marseille it's the one that you kind of typically see yeah is that the same as the writer the writer tarot deck are you familiar with that one because I've heard some stuff about that that's a very popular I don't know I don't know deck I'm gonna say that because other one has kind of the medieval kind of painting looking pictures yeah like if you imagine tarot cards or if you google tarot cards it's probably the one that you're gonna see kind of the famous famous Renaissance right right so mine just show I have mine is this is a Shakespeare and my Shakespeare cards are they were ones that were gifted to me they're just different oh that's a pretty little pictures of these up on the website on on tiktokos to ground there maybe some different things to show you but I have to say that I like my dog ones when you dog ones they're pretty freaking cute okay I have to tell you so I'm talking to Rogue earlier on the phone you know prep and some stuff because it might not sound like it sometimes but we do prepare and she must tell me about her dog tarot cards and when she first said that I thought it was like tarot cards to give dogs readings and I thought I never heard of them before that's awesome today on Sparky I was determined your future I see a spade someone's getting spade yeah but once you got here we she's like no there's people tarot cards that they just are not themed are these not the cutest they're very cute so oh there's a new booth right so anyways I enjoy tarot again it's a magic table so the tarot decks they've got generally 78 cards I understand and I have a major arcana and a minor arcana with different information and kind of the major ones are a lot of the big picture cards we see like death and the fool the fool and those kinds of things and then the miners more and and the major or more from what the description was there more of the overall kinds of things of influence in your life and that kind of thing and then the minor arcana kind of influences your everyday life or I don't know if it's influences the right word but reflects yeah your everyday life and the things that are happening kind of more day-to-day. I based on symbolism again really is what it all comes down to is the cards are just based on symbolism so when we're gonna we're still gonna talk about it for a little bit but at some point in this podcast rogue is going to let us each pick our own card and then she'll tell us a little bit about the card that we pick. Now there's there's like four suits I guess you'd call it the swords the ones the cups and the I wrote it poorly what's the other one?
I didn't rogue just say she wasn't gonna read these things. Well I mean she's gonna tell us what it means I think I've got something I don't know what it means. Anyway there's one other one I can't read my own scribbling. Really?
You can't? That's hilarious I love that. I can't read my own handwriting. One more time over the floor?
I can give you three of them the swords the ones cups and no idea. The interesting thing about tarot for me is I've never really gotten into tarot it's just not my thing and I don't mind people that it is their thing it just never really spoke to me and so if you had asked me how old tarot was I don't know I probably would have told you a couple hundred years but they have found these I would have said a couple hundred but yeah they found these thousands of years ago in China they found them in Egypt and one of the one of the thing yeah it was really big in ancient Greece and what I never really put together is on jumping ahead nevermind we're still in tarot for a second what I didn't put in the pentacles was the pentacles see other when you're missing. Now it's worth it does I can kind of get pentacles out of it. Pentacles, or a rantacle or a okay so last time we podcast I actually wrote my notes out like gonna read half of them I have to type them out because I got the crappy handwriting.
I bet mine's worse but hey this is gonna be fun to edit today I don't have cute girly handwriting I have I have doctor handwriting. I will say it's interesting where you mentioned you know the cups swords pentacles and we'll see other ones. When you look at the deck of traditional point cards now you've got that same kind of reference you've got hearts spades diamonds and clubs clubs is like the longs heart is like the cups and then the spades like the sword and then you've got diamonds as well which is like the pentacles coins discs or rings. We'll see yeah and one reason why the tarot of Marseilles is the real kind of popular one that you see the most often kind of the quintessential tarot cards is because you know it waned and ebbed and you know it was a you know it was a thing back in the ancient days and then it became a card game and then you know the church crushed it well it really started getting popular and this this is where you know if you'd ask me before I researched this when tarot came around it got very popular in the 1780s in Paris by two fellows by the name of Anton Court and maybe it's Anton Coor if you're French and Jean Baptiste Aliette in Paris and this I mean they really just kind of made it take off and then Alistair Crowley we actually talked about him a little bit on a podcast he has this very own podcast on the supernatural hour he actually devised a orthodec with the help of Lady Frida Harris and he said of tarot the origin of this pack of cards is very obscure and I believe he's talking about his deck some authorities seek to put it back as far as ancient Egyptian mysteries others tried to bring it forward to his latest the 15th or even the 16th century but the only theory of ultimate interest about the tarot is that it is an admirable symbolic picture of the universe based on the deity of the whole based on the data of the holy kabala so that's a quote from Alistair Crowley interesting tie of kabala to tarot and you know people that don't know much about tarot you know think that it's just very very you know has stayed the same but the meaning of the cards has actually changed over time you know depending on the area the area and the culture that you're in which is one reason why sometimes the decks can be really confusing to people that aren't really into it you know because they might have one person read it this way and then go to another person who reads it another way a lot of it comes down to people's own interpretation and so there isn't a standard deal there's from what I understand you know some guidelines and those kinds of things about certain things with different books that have been written but from what I heard in the research and that I did is it's very personal and things are very you know how you feel about them and it's more of a personal thing rather than a here's the rules and the ways that it has to be done perscriptively right you can hand a deck of you can have the same deck of cards to five different tarot readers and you might get five different readings and it's not because you know just what we've talked about you know they're gonna interpret read the cards a little different but even interpretation of we were talking about the major okay and like I'm gonna go back to the full because that was one that had been referenced recently in a book I was reading and they talked about how you know people can interpret the full as somebody who's callable somebody who's stupid whatever you want to say but the other meaning of the full is somebody who's open-minded and willing to change and adopt things and instead of being so rigid instructing their own constructs they're able to grow and they're able to adapt and able to learn so even though it says fool and everybody interprets that as something negative there's also a positive connotation with that in interpretation of the cards as well.
Going back to Jean Baptiste when he first made tarot popular it wasn't a divination method it was a card game you know like we talked about but he claimed that the tarot cards originated from a legendary book of Thoth you know the same as Alistair Crowley talked about and this book of Thoth I've never heard of it before but it supposedly belonged to the Egyptian god of wisdom and according to Jean Baptiste they refer to him as his last name which I'm not even going to attempt that this book was engraved by Thoth's priest not a golden place and it provided the imagery for the first set of tarot cards. Interesting with just Thoth in general you think about God as the mind and trying to understand God you're trying to divine right that's what divination is is trying to you know gain knowledge from divinity that's what divining is. Thoth some people claim that the word thought originates from the ancient Egyptian god Thoth which is the mind right we associate kind of what God is with the mind is connecting with the universe with you know the mind of God essentially so using tarot to try to understand God makes some sense. Right it's interesting that says the word tarot and German tarot both derive from the Italian word tarotchi the origin of this word is uncertain but tarot was used as a synonym for foolishness in the late 15th and 16th centuries now you know was they use this word because it's not so much foolishness is in stupid but we're just playing a dumb game and it doesn't really mean anything you know because it started out as a card game I just said a well a budget tarot card aficionados it's not I just mean going it was a bridge game but then during the 16th century this new game played with the standard deck but sharing a similar name called words triophna was quickly becoming popular so you're thinking about it back in these days there are you know they don't have the internet they don't have you know TV and Hulu Netflix and all the stuff so you know they're coming up with games they're coming up with things to do so all these all these things are coming out in modern Italian this is called tarotko and tarotko as a noun refers to the blood orange blood orange I have no idea what this means in the big scheme of things but if you use it as a verb it also indicates that something is fake or forged now I am not saying that tarot reading is fake or forged I'm just telling you that that's what it means but it could go back to the idea of it's a game and you know you're just playing a game you know you mentioned that you know this may originated as a game and that kind of the modern derivative that we see constantly is face cards I guess you could call them the standard playing deck you process a lot of people who are church going individuals have been told that face cards are bad and a lot of people to understand why it's not because you can play bad games with them like blackjack and poker it's because of this or it's right the symbolism the origin and the fact that people can use them for tarot so there's 52 playing cards which represent each of the weeks of a year just your standard playing cards yeah not tarot in a standard playing deck right back playing cards you've got 52 cards there are some you could call them major arcane if you want with the face cards your jacks queens kings you're even the joker you fool but uh you know and then you've got your your senior for suits we were talking about this before that there's a relationship between cups and hearts spades and swords clubs and wands and then pentacles and diamonds so those kind of overlay as well and then there's some numbers and plays into this too but each of those four suits represents the four seasons also represents the four elements so there's a lot of there's a lot of deeper meaning to that standard deck of playing cards really interesting yeah one of the things that as I was going through they said with the tarot there's generally kind of two different types of readings and one's a reading that when you come with a question and they can help determine things based upon the thing but the other than is just a general reading where you just come to find out stuff right you're not sometimes that will lead to the end of question reading you're not coming with a question but they're just gonna tell you stuff yeah one thing I thought was interesting was when this first really took off in the Renaissance in Italy if you are a very wealthy patron of the arts they would actually go to artists and commission sets of tarot cards to be made specifically for them and this was back when it was still bridge quite the keepsake yeah so imagine if you could find a set of those somewhere probably worth a small fortune that'd be pretty cool that'd be awesome I trust I did hear in some other research that I was doing there's some question whether you should buy your own tarot card or whether it should be gifted to you there's kind of both schools of thought there that it's okay to get your own but I think there's a lore around having gifted to you and having someone give you a tarot deck so I'm gonna ask Rogue you have one of each I do what what are your thoughts on that I'm with you like it's it is that my the ones with the dogs were the ones that called to me my first deck was given to me so and I have given other people decks so have you used them both you feel a difference when you use them because of the different ways you attain them there well my dog deck I haven't you seen me open it up almost as much as I've opened it up I haven't used it so maybe not because it I've had them I've had that deck for a couple of years and I haven't used it so well they're cute but the tarot doesn't really call to me anymore you know I have other things now interesting so kind of one of the other things we're gonna talk about tonight besides the tarot card oh you know actually I want to just when I was dowsing routes and that's a big one for you and well and I'm trying I'm working on it but dowsing rods is fits into this category in terms of divination yes I mean I could hear designing things so I thought that was pretty cool that was cool I never thought about it came out it was one of the ones on my list awesome you get a long list there I know what else have you got on that we didn't talk about I don't know between the two of you I was trying to check market and I have one that's the study of your eyes I don't know if we talked about that the one studying of your dreams studying of crystals did anyone do this what is the thing we study the bumps on your head for anology how do I know that off the top of my head pun expect you to know that that's not an actual science it could be a pseudoscience it is a pseudoscience for sure excellent the pendulum was also one of the ones I don't know if you mentioned I think that's what I did mention but I find that interesting yeah I was gonna bring my pendulum just yes no maybe it's good for yes no maybe's yeah in a big way it's kind of like the dowsy rods because that's the only way you can talk about things in the dowsing rods is yes no questions unless you're like me and have a moment and ask two questions at once right and then the person using the dowsing rods is like yeah pick one lady right where yes what's your favorite color I haven't done that you know we've been using the dowsing rods and then we also have like the K2 or the ghost pro and we get answers and get lights going on and things happening and everything correlating it's pretty cool and if you think about it to me the word divining is really just gaining knowledge and there's lots of ways to gain knowledge in some ways you might not be into some ways you might be into for example I think numerology is interesting I'm gonna study that one a little bit and I find it fascinating you know I don't put my faith into it per se but I find it very very intriguing I like number symbolism a lot I don't know I think there's something about numbers that's that really kind of speaks to me yeah I don't know that I've tried to apply things for me numerological standpoint but I do with numbers in particular you see them lots of places and a lot of times I do have deep kind of subconscious meetings well I've got a book on numerology actually and there's and I don't remember the terms because it's been a while but if you add up you know the numbers in your name and you find out what number of a person you are and then you look up the numbers and it describes you you know kind of like a horoscope but with numbers and it's a little scary right on yeah goes back to kind of that coupleistic approach of taking Hebrew letters and adding them together throughout the scriptures for kind of the deeper meaning of things sometimes you'll you know you'll take a sentence and I'll add I'll assign a number to each of the Hebrew letters and then I'll kind of compile them together and decipher what kind of a deeper meaning of that scripture is so I've backed here kind of pointed out using your name for that same thing you know the name Yawah or Jehovah the four-letter name or the Tetragramaton and see sometimes no one is that same idea where they're able to add those numbers up and references, godhood basically interesting.
Aside from tarot the other divination that we'll talk about in this podcast is palmistry it's also known as Chiromancy or Chirosophae and if I'm mispronouncing that it's chiromancy you know that sounds better CH I'm just gonna say shit that's chiromancy oh chirob okay yeah it's bones and actually I think it means double check up a movie I got in today let me double check I have my moments that's where chirom practice comes from so well he's check in on that that it can actually be, this can also be traced back thousands and thousands of years. And I mean, to the point where if you go back to the Stone Age, there are a lot of significance of the Stone Age paintings and things that they found on cables, a lot of things to do with hands. It's thought that some modern day practices of the art originates from India. And if you look at Indian art, you see a lot of hands and there's the gods and goddesses that have lots of arms with what lots of hands attached.
Cairo does mean hand. Awesome. Which would make sense? Cairo Mansey.
And the Cairo practice, they manipulate with their hands to restore health. Let's see, they said that, again, the signs of the hand you can find across all cultures, across all nations. They said even, you know, 300 or 3000 BC, even Chinese emperors would seal things with a thumbprint, which I found was interesting. And it alters a little bit depending on your culture, depending on your religious interpretations.
And an example that is given is gypsies when they arrived in Europe in the 1300s. And they mixed palm reading that they had learned from India with their own blend of psychic abilities. Because gypsies are pretty well known for having a lot of psychic abilities and being empaths and being able to see things and reading crystal balls and all that sort of thing. So they kind of combined the two into their own special little flair.
I guess it makes sense to me because people would think, why hands? Right. These are the tools that we use to connect us to the world. We manipulate reality through our hands.
We build things that would make things. And so I think from a symbolic standpoint, the hand has a lot of importance because it's the way that we connect our will with reality. We're able to take our will and create a reality through our hands. Yeah.
I was going to say one of the things that one of the videos I watch talked about is that your hands have the most nerve connections to your brain. That's the very sensitive. Your fingers and your hands are the most sensitive part of the body with the most direct, the most high count of connections directly to the brain. It's the tool that our mind or spirit uses to interact with the physical with reality.
One thing I find is interesting. There's a music teacher. People learn three ways and not just with music, but with anything. You either are a visual learner, which in music is the easiest.
There's an auditory learner. And in my opinion, auditory learners are really, really hard to teach music too because you have to be able to sit down a piece of sheet music and have the people look at it and read it. Teaching by ear is a lot harder. I mean, that's got its good qualities.
But the third way of learning is tactile, which is your hands. And one thing I've noticed with me because I've played musical instruments since I was five and that was a very, I'm not going to tell you how long I brought that was, but it was a very long time ago. And something about, see, I'm a visual learner, so you see it, but then you enforce it with that tactile and plane it and it just enforces it to the point where now, you know, Chad will sit down and watch a YouTube video, which is auditory. I could listen to something for hours and it's just going to sing, go right away.
I'm going to do that again. Sing. But if I can see it, you know, read it and then do something with my hands, you know, write it down or type it, then it sticks. And so there's something about hands, but it's one of the learning processes.
So it's an important part of life. Right. So I think that's why there has been kind of a focus on the hand, right, in terms of being able to read your future palmistry. So some very interesting people are interested in palmistry and I don't want to say that I will not, but practice it, you know, looked into it, tried to figure out what it was about.
And it was very popular among the academics in ancient Greece and, you know, physicians using it in their practice. Aristotle wrote about it. In the fourth century BC, Aristotle has thought to have said his student Alexander the Great to India to try to figure this out, see it was to learn about it, you know, see what the big deal was because it was quite popular there. Some experts dispute it a little bit, but that's, it said to be a thing.
They said it was used in the Roman times by Julius Caesar and it's believed that he, or he believed that if you could read men's palms, he could judge their intentions and be able to figure out who the imposters were as opposed to his genuine followers. And on one occasion, it was said that he read a man's palm and decided that he was an imposter and had him executed. But historians dispute this and they said they prefer astrology to palmistry. Well, dang, you don't have the wrong kind of hands.
No kidding. You know, I know a lot of people with palm reading, you know, everyone knows about, oh, your lifeline or your love line. Those are kind of the classic ones I think that most everybody has heard of. I found what seven of them.
I don't know if you guys saw these as well, but there's a lifeline, a headline, a heart line, the girl of Venus, the sun line, the mercury line and the fake line. Yeah. And then not only were there lines, but there was little areas. I don't remember what they were called.
The mounds. Little, yeah, little mounds. The Mount of Venus, the mountain. Yeah, there was a number of those go up with your fingers.
So mercury is your pinky, Apollo, Saturn, Jupiter and then Venus being your thumb. And then there's the mount of, so right below it. So the Mount of Mercury is the right below your pinky. The pad there.
Yeah. And then I was looking that one of the common classifications, not only the lines or the mounds on the hand, but even the shape of the palm has been classified by elemental symbolism. That there are earth hands, which are broad and square. And there are air hands, which are more rectangular with long fingers.
People have water hands are long and oval shaped and flexible. And then fire hands are square rectangular, flushed or pink, which were. I think I have a water hand. Maybe a water hand.
I got to be like an earth or a fire hand. I don't know. I'm like water. Water is my element.
So I'm going with the water hand, but it looks kind of oval, don't you think? Yeah, you look ovaly. Look ovaly. Look wrinkly.
But I didn't even realize that they used elemental symbolism for classifying what kind of palm you have, even before going into what the nuances of each line and mount represent. So this will probably shock everybody. So you ready? You ready for this shocker?
The practice of palmistry was actually forced underground by the Catholic Church because they considered a form of devil worshiping. Anyone that was found to have an interest in it was murdered. And it says quickly murdered, not just like normal murder. I was going to route this out.
Quickly murdered. I'd rather be quickly murdered. I kind of went to the slow drawn out. Yeah, that doesn't sound good.
So at what point was out of what? Renaissance. Oh, I guess, yeah, kind of probably 1314. We were just looking for any reason to kill you.
When the church, you know, wanted to control everything. But then as they started to kind of lose its influence, the individual rulers of countries got more powerful in the church, then it was able to kind of creep back in because they didn't have that power. Right. So now, I mean, this is taking pretty serious like in science and they're really, really proving, I guess, that this really is real.
Well, the interesting thing is I can, I am almost sure that there's people out there and I'm not digging at you because everyone's got their own opinion. But I'm sure there's people out there that go, oh, palm reading. I'm not into palm reading. I'm not into the science on hand and that's cute and people can believe it, but whatever.
But really, you do. And I'll give you an example. And you're like, no, I don't. No, I don't.
Hear me out. I'm over here giving her like slanty eyes. Like, where is this going? I'm like, look, a side look.
A side eye? A side eye? Okay. I better get to it.
In 1901, Scotland Yard adopted the technique of fingerprinting and criminal investigations. You know, identification, right? You get fingerprinted. Okay.
Medical researchers studied skin patterns and they've discovered a correspondence between genetic abnormalities and unusual markings in the hand. Yeah. There's some called a semi-increase that you see in people with Down syndrome, for example, on palm. Yep.
And research has confirmed a link between specific fingerprint patterns and heart disease. So there are things that you can read in people's skin that have a medical base to it or a practical base, like, you know, fingerprinting. So in a way, you do believe in polystyrene. People with congenital heart defects can sometimes end up with more bulbous fingertips.
So yeah. There you go. You know, in a weird way. Maybe I do believe in polystyrene.
And then our fingerprints, I learned form when we're 14 to 16 weeks forming in the womb. I mean, that's the very beginning. And your fingerprints don't change, but your hands do. Your creases and your hands change.
And I never really thought about that because I always thought about the creases in your hands forming like when you're a little baby and you're in the womb. But, you know, I guess that's just your fingerprints. Okay, this is just going to be silly. But when I've thought about polystyrene before and you know how the creases in your hands are, I just imagined, you know, you're there in the womb, your hands are just floating.
And that first time you shut it. That's what you get. That's it. You're folded it over.
It ain't going back. It's like a piece of paper. You can't, I got it. You got it.
That's the crease you get. You can't, you can't look at it. I don't like that lifeline. I'm a start over.
You're not exactly. But when I was doing some of this research and there's girls, there was a girl online, she did an interactive palm reading. And I did that with her and it was freaky accurate, like some of what you were talking about. And she would talk about how your lines would only go part way to halfway to three quarters of the way and it was pretty spot on.
Well, as I'm watching, you know, just some on YouTube, just some basic, you know, palm reading things, they're like, okay, you've got this line in this line and if they intersect, it means this. And I'm like, well, I'm like, well, the one line is like, you didn't intersect, but then it breaks and it takes off. I'm like, what does that mean? So now I've got to like find a palm reader and have an, I need to know what that means.
I was finding like, if you have an M or a V or an X and I was looking at my hand going, why haven't you? I'm seeing it. I'm seeing it. I'm seeing it.
I'm seeing it. I'm seeing it. So those are supposed to be rare. It said you were going to be rich.
That's the known side guy. This is X means you're going to be rich. All right. Hear that?
All right. I like that. I've had my palm read a grant of one time at an amusement park during Halloween season by I'm pretty sure it was like a high school senior or something. So I'm going to say I didn't put much credence into said palm reading.
But, you know, so it was an interesting experience, but I'm not so sure they knew what they were doing. I will say with a high degree of certainty, they did not know what they were doing. So when it comes to palmistry, I don't want to nay say it. I find it interesting.
It's not where I put my faith. But if I'm in an area and there's a palm reader, I got to get my hand. Give it a go. I think it's interesting.
And I think, you know, you find it in so many cultures, part of me says there's got to be something to it. Yeah, it is pretty pervasive. We talked about, I mean, in India and Egypt and China and Europe and it's like China Tibet, Persia, Mesopotamia, Egypt, ancient Greece, medieval. I mean, it's all over the place.
Somebody found some value in this at some point. Oh, here's one more little tidbit. It said medieval palmistry was pressed into service by the witch hunters who interpreted pigmentation spots as a sign of a pact with a devil. Isn't that a weird twist of fate?
Don't read palms because it's evil. Hey, we're rich palm. You're evil. And now you're going to die.
That seems really weird that they would use the means by which they told people they were you know, conspiring with the devil to find people that they were conspiring with the devil. Yeah, kind of weird, but you know, whatever. So we're going to move on to the tarot cards. Yes, so pull out your tarot cards.
I want to see what cartoeple and then she's not going to read for me. She's just going to tell me what the cartoeple is. Do you want to pick what she took? You want to pull it from?
Yeah, I think I want the Shakespeare text. She's kind of a Shakespeare girl. I want to do it. Shakespeare away.
I worked for the Shakespearean Festival when I was in college. That sounds like really cool. I was a janitor. Didn't you tell us some story about couch?
Yeah, that's right. You find a lot of money in those couches when you're a four-starving college student, five bucks in a couch. That's like half your grocery budget for the week. Do I need to shuffle in or something?
Yeah, because you want to put your intent into the cards. Okay, and so ask your question and put your intent into the cards. I'm glad somebody knows what I'm doing here. Thanks, Rogue.
Have you ever seen me shuffle cards? This is not going to be a very precise. I will never ever be hired in Vegas to be like a card anything. That's okay.
Seriously, this is my third job. You are not doing well. I'm not. I told you.
It sounded smooth. They just didn't go together. Do I though? Nailed it.
Did I? I also heard there's some ways that you can do decks in a certain way with the put them in three piles and movement directions that... Okay, that's probably as good as I'm going to do. Kind of randomizes them, but with intent.
Hey, I'm fanning over here. Sorry. I'm fanning. I'm fanning and then I just pick one out.
I'm feeling over here. Okay, you ready? Drum roll. We need to go soundboards so we can have fun stuff.
We can do whistles. That's what we're going to sound like rain. Okay, so I have the nine of crowns and it says at the bottom a kingdom for a stage, princes to act. Henry V.
And it shows a picture of actors on the stage. Let's see. And so when you pulled the card, is it upright or was it upside down? I think it was upright.
Okay, because when it's upside down, it will give it a different meaning. And a lot of times, so with this one, if it was reversed, there's a chance you might fall off of the ladder of success. And earlier, we just said that you were going to be rich because you have an X in your hands. I don't want to fall off the ladder.
So we don't want you to fall off the ladder. I'm pretty sure it was right. I thought I remember having to turn it around. Let's see.
This card signifies that the old theater favorite, the happy ending. Here are your three wishes coming home to roost. Your heart's desire is on its way and you can stop worrying if you have still to make it to the top. It is within your grasp.
I mean, you're going to be successful. Awesome. So what kind of intent and question did you throw into the into the cards? I don't know.
I don't even know what you asked. I was trying to shuffle them. Yeah, her question was, can I shuffle these cards? I'm all right.
I was no. You will be successful. You didn't need a deck of tarot cards to tell you that or maybe you did. Right.
That you would want, but it's not that you're going to get my screen. Hey, doc, you ate all your stuff. Got one. Doc, what do you got?
Pulling out and see what happens. The six of swords. I was up to the two of swords. To get you to get you some reference.
I got a dude laying in a coffin on the ocean with a storm and lightning bolts going. So it doesn't sound good. Was it right? It was upright.
It was upright. It was a picture. Yeah, there's literally a dead bird. It looks like a mummy and a coffin on a coffin.
It says, forgive my little took with the casket floating on the sea. It actually says that. Oh my goodness. It does.
It says, in my own defense, this was the only way in which I could bring in both the meaning of the card and the six of swords by which it is symbolized. So does that mean if he goes on a cruise, he has to go on a little coffin cruise? Did you see the picture? Did you see the card?
Yeah, it's pretty honest looking. It is pretty honest. Okay, so you can go on a cruise, but you can't have very much room. Duck it in the lower deck.
It's got to be lowered deck. No window. I'm real small. But you know what?
The only thing is that I don't get to travel to Canada in a few weeks. They are locked down tight of the ship. Those maple syrup, 11 bastards. I'm just kidding.
All right, Chad. We love your Canadian people. I pull mine. I'm part of it.
What do you got? I've got an upside down six of swords. And it says the wind will not lie until the ship be cleared of the dead. Well yours, since it was reversed, this card warns you of delay, especially when you're traveling and disappointment.
So cash in your ticket and stay home. Okay, so otherwise you and Trevor. We cannot be travel partners. Otherwise, you're not going anywhere together.
That's hilarious. I'm hanging out with Dot just to find out. He's going places. And I'm staying places apparently.
It's going to be grand, but you can come. What's the road not going to do? Terracard? Okay.
Did you want to do a Terracard? I don't need to do a Terracard. I was the reader. Okay.
That's true. You were the one that were writing the information. I was thinking this summer we should investigate some ghost towns on some long weekends. Like P.O.S.H.
That's our first stop. Yeah. Yeah. P.O.S.
So he's going to cruise us. We're going to P.O.S. Nevada. That'll go to the Bahamas.
Sounds fine. I'm not going to do a podcast whatsoever, but there's this big thing on, I've seen a hundred YouTube that I swear that it's pronounced Nevada, not Nevada. Yes. Oh, yes.
But you're listening to not saying Nevada, that pisses off the Nevada. But we know that because we live anytime we're neighbors. Oh. I never even knew that was a thing.
I know my version. The good neighbor I am. I don't say Nevada. So we're ready for the bucket list?
Yeah, I had to pull out my notes because I forgot what we were doing. Okay. So has anybody heard of Sai and Peru? No.
Was that English? No, it wasn't Irish. One more time. Okay.
That makes sense. I forgot how to speak. I know I'm not going to do that. You're having a stroke?
Do we need to take you to the hospital? I was like, I know I'm having a bad day today, but it's not bad. Okay. You're ready for the English translation?
Yes. Yes. New Grange. Any of you heard of New Grange?
No. It sounds vaguely familiar, but I couldn't tell you. I have no idea. Okay.
Now, just for reference, New Grange is in reference to the fields where this is located. There was the Old Grange. And now there's the New Grange. So I still need to know what a Grange is.
It's like how there's York in New York. It's kind of. But this isn't the same area. I'm not going to talk about the New Grange.
The New Grange is not new. And the name has nothing to do with the monument. Okay. So my bucket list is New Grange.
It's a monument. It's a prehistoric monument in County Meth in Ireland. It's located about eight, about five miles west of Nohegra on the north side of the river boi. It's an exceptionally grand passage tomb built during the Neolithic period, about 3,200 BC.
It's older than Stonehitch and older than the Pyramids. Wow. So did you know that? I don't know.
That in Ireland, there's a monument that's there. The site consists of a large circular mound with an inner stone passageway and chambers, human bones and possible grave goods where votive offerings were found in these chambers. The mound was retaining well. It has a retaining well in the front.
It's made mostly white quartz and cobblestones and it's ringed by engraved curb stones. Many of the larger stones of the New Grange are covered with metal-lithic art and the mound is also ringed by stone circles. Some other material that makes the monument came from as far away as the Morn's Mountain and the Wicklow Mountain. So the stones were brought in from a pretty good distance.
Like the blue stones at Stonehitch kind of idea. But this is even older than Stonehitch. That's older. Yeah.
It's entrance is aligned with the rising sun on the winter stoltsis and the sunlight shines through a roof box located above the passage entrance on the floors in the inner chamber. Do you have a picture of it? There are. Yeah.
It's really cool. I don't have one piece of paper. I don't have one piece of paper. But we will put a picture of it on the YouTube podcast so that you can see what it looks like.
It's really very cool. There are many smaller archaeological sites such as hinges and mounds and standing stones situated within about a half mile of New Grange and the boin. It consists of approximately 200,000 tons of rock and other materials. It's 279 feet wide at its widest point.
So it's big. It's a big monument. Yeah. I just pulled up a picture of it.
It's a little more obscure or maybe primitive. It's a big ass circle with a whole bunch of stones and there is artwork that has been carved into the outside of the stones as well. Wow. New Grange, one word, any WGRNG.
Yeah. It's a popular tourist site and it's regarded as one of the great national monuments of Ireland and it's also one of the most important myth, megalithic structures in Europe. So that's one of the places I'd like to go. Besides, I'd like to go to Ireland again.
Well, here's the deal. I think Trevor's going to get. I think Doc's going to get there before you do it. I'm going to do a terrible thing.
That's right. And I was supposed to go to Ireland last year. So when you reschedule it, I'm going to do Grange. I'm going to do Grange.
That'd be awesome. Now, it's very cool. There's been some controversy about the restoration when it was originally found, you know, and they realized what it was. They've done some cleanup and things of the area.
I mean, much like the Mayan pyramids and things. You have to clean them up and make them. And there's some people that are saying, oh, it shouldn't be done quite like this or it shouldn't be done quite like that. But who knows?
It was, you know, 3,000. Right. I mean, you can try to read some minds from that longer. But that's, I'd love to go see that.
I think that's really neat. I've been older than the pyramids and older than Stonehenge and very cool place. That's really cool. Ireland is on my just my coast to go to because it's Ireland.
It's where my family's from. I'm quite. Looks like it's about 37 minutes away from Dublin by car. I've been to Dublin.
I've spent a week in Ireland and I did a lot of tours going outside of Dublin. And I can't believe that I didn't go to that. 37 minutes by car. That's crazy.
Right. How come they're not promoting this thing? Maybe they are and we just don't know a bit. Right.
I find it fascinating. You see all of this information about Stonehenge. You see all this information about the pyramids. And it's like, here's something that's older than all of them.
And it's awesome. Really cool. And again, the Irish, you know, travel of your own needs to do a better job. That's right.
Maybe they just don't market to Utah. Maybe. We are a little ways away. Okay.
All right. You ready for our junctor? So I actually have two things for our junctor. I couldn't decide between them.
And one, we actually touched on just a little bit years and years and years ago. So I don't mind revisiting it. But I just I couldn't decide that you're getting them both. So first one, Tracy and Kiryan Fry have marriage problems.
They got marriage problems. This is the gal that's married to the pirate ghost, right? Oh, no. That was that was weird.
No, I don't mind redoing those things every now and then, but that was too soon. But it was worth the reminder. It was. You know, there's some that you just need to revisit.
And that was one we needed. Marrying dead pirate ghost is fine. Yeah. And the next one is too good to not revisit.
So but these marriage problems, they're not like their normal domestic disturbance kind of problems. Okay. Probably got there. So according to the fries, there's an evil seriously pissed off poltergeist that's plaguing their marriage in their home.
Okay. So they've been dealing with this entity and it beats Mrs. Fry, at least Marx, and the attacks get more and more intense and they decided to call in a professional slayer of demons to stop his wife, Tracy from getting beaten. Now, if your wife is getting beaten by demons, of course you want it to get that to stop, right?
Right. This is worse than like the doorknob or baseball excuse. I'm just saying. How do you drive you a slayer?
And as emergency room doctor, you've. Right. Beaten my poltergeist, you say. So but you know what?
You have to give them credit. Demon slayer. He's getting the demon slayer. They called in the professionals.
Okay. So I'll just read a quote. We are being molested by demons. My wife goes to bed fine.
Does that feel anything in the night? But when she wakes up, she's an agony. I wake up the next day and I say, I didn't do that. I would never beat my wife.
It's getting worse and worse and there's nothing we can do. So in the name of love, carry on sought out the help of Robert Amor, Robert Amor, Mr. Love, who beats the crap out of demons for a living. I'm reading that verbatim.
I don't make that up. Robert Amor who beats the crap out of demons for a living. So our more enter the home, he determined it wasn't just one demon but a group of demons. And again, I'm just going to read this verbatim because it's too good.
In a battle where love and marriage were at stake, our more says he slayed two of the evil spirits. Wow. He didn't just put him in the refrigerator and tie rope around it. No.
Okay. That's so demoony. He slayed two demons. I wanted to make a tool he used to slay.
So he says, as soon as I arrived in the home, I could sense there was negative energy. The incubus was brought via a Ouija board. They're absolute danger and can bring through anything, meaning the Ouija boards. This particular one was reluctant to go.
I always speak to the residents first about exactly what they can see. I listen and deal a bit from there. I can normally see the demon straight away. Then I focus on it and move in, move it onto a heavenly state.
I don't send it back to where it came from. It takes a while for things to calm down as you have to allow the negative energy to return to positive energy. So he says there were three demons and he single-handedly laid waste to two of them using nothing more than a Bible in a crucifix. I was going to say, this sounds like the weakest form of slaying I've ever heard of.
Hi, evil demon. Can you be good now? Here I got my crucifix. Let me in and we're going to make it positive.
Go ahead and pie. It just seemed like slaying. That sounds more like... It's more like therapy for the demon, basically.
Unfortunately, more was unable to clean out the third, most powerful demon, probably because of his passage. He had an exhaustive battle with the lesser two and he wishes the fries well in the future. So that's always reassuring to hear from a professional demon slayer. Left on an analysis, you are all.
He got a 66% success rate, so that's pretty good. Anyway, so if you need a demon slayer, he will talk them to death for life. I know a guy. It's kind of sweet.
Okay, so it says currently the fries are still dealing with an evil nightmare demon from hell. Imagine that. And now they are only armed with love. Oh.
More. They might need our phone number. Alright, you ready for the next one? If you've been listening to the supernatural hour, if you remember when it was the Wisps show, I think we talked about this one.
It was the Wisps show. And the amazing Creskin, do you remember him? We talked about him in an episode not too far back. He was kind of the nemesis of Yuri Geller.
Oh, okay. That was the amazing Randy. Also, Creskin was also, he was a mentalist. Or I think he's still as a mentalist.
He was more in the Silvia Brown. I think we talked about him still. So he opened a supernatural dating site. Oh.
A supernatural dating site. And this is from Friday, March 27th of 2015. So I don't know how it's going currently. So he decided he would open up this new dating site.
A site for enthusiasts of the paranormal, they would explain this to the impossible. We're pretty sure the guy to girl ratio will probably be a lot like a magic club. Is that you or is that them? That's them.
So meaning lots and lots of guys and only a few girls? Probably. I have a feeling that it's going to take on a dimension. I never realized that's a direct quote.
Knowing this, we're still going to do it, huh? I think the guys all probably play Dungeons and Dragons. That's what I'm visualizing in my head. Magic be gathering.
Yeah. So whoever wrote this article does not have a whole lot of faith in his online graphic design because it says that it kind of lures a niche market of older folks. Older folks who have seen captured or smelled a big foot or been inducted by time traveling Atlanteans who just need some love like the rest of us. And if you can see Doc's face right now.
We're going to connect these people together. It sounds like a recipe for disaster. I needed a picture of that face. So that's meld a big foot.
And everyone's like, but aliens inducted me. Let's hook up. Oh my gosh. So that brings on the next question, right?
What kind of people are looking for love out there? Will they be human? Are they going to be other things? Are there going to be vampires and werewolves?
Are there off world species? Is this how the lady met up her ghost pirate? I was on the dating site. We just don't know.
So I'm not intending to promote this site. Man, morbid curiosity is getting to me here. When this goes live, can you let me know? Well, other creatures find that someone special without having to brave daylight, pitch works and torches.
You can just hop on the internet. Wow. What was the name of the site again? I'm on the internet.
Actually, this article doesn't say, still a work in progress, I think, guys. Since 2015. Well, I mean, they already admitted defeat by saying, this is going to be like a magic club. Yeah.
So anyway, like I said, this article is six years old. So I don't know how the dating website has been. It's probably worth a Google. I'm going to take a look.
So if you see Doc on the dating website. Only supernatural. Oh my goodness. That was an amazing bucket list.
You kind of got a two for there because I could not decide which. So I thought, eh, they're short. We'll do them both. All right.
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I didn't say this time. I'll let you say it. I beat you to the punch. I have to share the tapestry love.
I do like my supernatural hour mug. I never bring it here, but I use it at home a lot. Awesome. I should bring it.
I keep saying that. Sometimes we're even live. All right. And then absolute last, but not least, is just some of the friends of supernatural hour in advance, paranormal.
And we just really appreciate these folks for the help that they give us. The Barbra coast, of course, where we're going to be going on the 19th. There's Dalton's and Oteo's wonderful food. Awesome food if you haven't had a chance to go down there.
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Not only does he do nature, but he now does portraits. I actually think he changed the name. I think it might just be Castle Studio. I need to hit him up and see what he's calling it nowadays, but he's doing some portraits.
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I think that's a wrap for tonight. Stay spooky, my own defense. Have a good one. Have a good one.
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