Do Phishing Simulations Really Work?
from MSP 1337 | Cybersecurity Education and Security Guidance Hosted by Chris Johnson | Cybersecurity Education & Security Guidance
Phishing simulations are one of the most debated tools in cybersecurity awareness, but do they actually work? In today’s episode, we’re joined by David Shipley, former soldier turned cybersecurity researcher and founder of Beauceron Security, to unpack what the data really says about phishing simulations, human behavior, and why zero clicks has never been, and will never be, the goal.
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