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EPISODE · Feb 10, 2026 · 42 MIN

Do Phishing Simulations Really Work?

from MSP 1337 | Cybersecurity Education & Security Guidance · host Chris Johnson | Cybersecurity Education & Security Guidance

Phishing simulations are one of the most debated tools in cybersecurity awareness, but do they actually work?In today’s episode, we’re joined by David Shipley, former soldier turned cybersecurity researcher and founder of Beauceron Security, to unpack what the data really says about phishing simulations, human behavior, and why zero clicks has never been, and will never be, the goal.

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Phishing simulations are one of the most debated tools in cybersecurity awareness, but do they actually work?In today’s episode, we’re joined by David Shipley, former soldier turned cybersecurity researcher and founder of Beauceron Security, to unpack what the data really says about phishing simulations, human behavior, and why zero clicks has never been, and will never be, the goal.

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Phishing simulations are one of the most debated tools in cybersecurity awareness, but do they actually work?In today’s episode, we’re joined by David Shipley, former soldier turned cybersecurity researcher and founder of Beauceron Security, to...

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