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Are humanoid robots the future… or a $100B mistake?Over 100 companies—from Meta to Amazon—are betting big on humanoids. But are we chasing a sci-fi dream that’s not practical or profitable?In this TechFirst episode, I chat with Bren Pierce, robotics OG and CEO of Kinisi Robots. We cover: - Why legs might be overhyped - How LLMs are transforming robots into agents - The real cost (and complexity) of robotic hands - Why warehouse robots work best with wheels - The geopolitical robot arms race between China, the US, and Europe - Hot takes, historical context, and a glimpse into the next 10 years of AI + robotics.Timestamps:0:00 – Are humanoids a dumb idea?1:30 – Why legs might not matter (yet)5:00 – LLMs as the real unlock12:00 – The hand is 50% of the challenge17:00 – Speed limits = compute limits23:00 – Robot geopolitics & supply chains30:00 – What the next 5 years looks likeSubscribe for more on AI, robotics, and tech megatrends.

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This episode was published on August 30, 2025.

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Are humanoid robots the future… or a $100B mistake?Over 100 companies—from Meta to Amazon—are betting big on humanoids. But are we chasing a sci-fi dream that’s not practical or profitable?In this TechFirst episode, I chat with Bren Pierce, robotics...

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