EPISODE · Jun 15, 2026 · 1H 25M
Do We Need A Red Caesar? | Interview: Eli Lake
from The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg · host The Dispatch
Some people just don’t mind being a cheap date, and of all the names in Jonah Goldberg’s little black book, Eli Lake is probably the easiest catch. Nonetheless, listeners are in for a raucous good time, as Jonah and Eli jump straight in on their reevaluations of Iran, Donald Trump’s desired deal, Trump’s “own goals,” Eli’s upcoming history deepdive, the Bush family’s unfair legacy, elites, celebrity culture, envy, Michael Anton, immigration and culture, and whether we needed Trump in 2016. Show Notes: —Eli’s podcast, Breaking History —Ken Pollock Remnant —Hannah Arendt Remnant —Eli’s interview with Michael Anton —Eli’s podcast on America’s 249th birthday —Calvin Coolidge’s Address at the Celebration of the 150th Anniversary —Laura Field Remnant —The Coddling of the American Mind —‘The Flight 93 Election’ —92NY Dispatch Event The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant, audio versions of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—click here. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member by clicking here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Some people just don’t mind being a cheap date, and of all the names in Jonah Goldberg’s little black book, Eli Lake is probably the easiest catch. Nonetheless, listeners are in for a raucous good time, as Jonah and Eli jump straight in on their reevaluations of Iran, Donald Trump’s desired deal, Trump’s “own goals,” Eli’s upcoming history deepdive, the Bush family’s unfair legacy, elites, celebrity culture, envy, Michael Anton, immigration and culture, and whether we needed Trump in 2016. Show Notes: —Eli’s podcast, Breaking History —Ken Pollock Remnant —Hannah Arendt Remnant —Eli’s interview with Michael Anton —Eli’s podcast on America’s 249th birthday —Calvin Coolidge’s Address at the Celebration of the 150th Anniversary —Laura Field Remnant —The Coddling of the American Mind —‘The Flight 93 Election’ —92NY Dispatch Event The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant, audio versions of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—click here. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member by clicking here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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